plymouthranger 3,887 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 I can see it now Jim Traynor sacked due to affending ra sellik and their oirish backgrownd! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer 11 2,582 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 they are actually retarded no doubt about it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara 154 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 if they are bealin on the back of this article, then it is, by definition, a bloody good one in my book! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlaw69uk 123 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Anyone else feel a bit sick looking at the one above wi all the tims on it? makes the thread a little, well, unclean! As for the article, Oleg, indeed, its just common sense, but, I think the way we are reacting to it is because, in the Scottish press, this kind of article, in our favour, is a very rare thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer 11 2,582 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Thing is they talk about comparing it to singing a song to Beasley would not be racist if you have jim traynors viewpoints where as celtic displayed the worst act of racism in scottish football against mark walters think i might just have shot there high horse there eh lads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,647 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Hey Traynor you're a fanny, but good article by the way, maybe you'll get back to the standard you had at the Herald, Maybe ? Won't hold my breath though ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wreckedroy 33 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 While I don't doubt that Traynor has his own, probably dubious, reasons for writing this article at this time, it's still a very good piece of work compared to much of the "sports journalism" we see these days. Maybe Traynor is actually on holiday and the office boy wrote it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled_bear 157 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Well somebody had to say it. Credit where credit is due, well done Jim Traynor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvager 498 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Well somebody had to say it. Credit where credit is due, well done Jim Traynor Spot on! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossDas 1,071 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 I refuse to buy redtop rags but I'll take a look when my dad gets home from work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andypendek Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Mildly interested to note they are moving their focus of complaint from the racist nature of the song to the 'other verses', which are in truth something I worry about...they are pretty rancid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepeter 5,627 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Mildly interested to note they are moving their focus of complaint from the racist nature of the song to the 'other verses', which are in truth something I worry about...they are pretty rancid. I was going to start a thread about this, but a) I thought there were enough threads on this topic and b) I didn't get round to it. Do the verses predate the chorus, or vice versa. If it's a chorus someone made up, the fans sang, then someone decided to write verses for, it's a completely different issue. I don't know if that's true or not, but I have read (on here admittedly) that someone added the verses later. I had certainly never heard the verses until after it had been sung. If so, anyone could write racist verses to any song (YNWA?) and claim that the people who sing the non-racist version are being racist. Does anyone know the origin of this song, and the verses? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaum1el 5 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 A monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard for an infinite amount of time will almost surely type a given text, such as the complete works of William Shakespeare, or a decent article about football. Interesting theory. Despite being incorrect, it has now proved to be proven! It was far better to use Jim Traynor in the experiment than other breeds of monkeys, such as the six Celebes Crested Macaques used by Plymouth University in 2003. Those monkeys produced five pages mostly consisting of the letter S. On the other hand they also smashed the keyboard with a rock as well as pissed and shat on it. In the future, we can hope that these kinds of experiments could instead be made on tabloid sports columnists and similar. They might be more expensive to maintain, but the results will be a bit better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andypendek Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Classic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Manticore* 1,893 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 A monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard for an infinite amount of time will almost surely type a given text, such as the complete works of William Shakespeare, or a decent article about football. Interesting theory. Despite being incorrect, it has now proved to be proven! It was far better to use Jim Traynor in the experiment than other breeds of monkeys, such as the six Celebes Crested Macaques used by Plymouth University in 2003. Those monkeys produced five pages mostly consisting of the letter S. On the other hand they also smashed the keyboard with a rock as well as pissed and shat on it. In the future, we can hope that these kinds of experiments could instead be made on tabloid sports columnists and similar. They might be more expensive to maintain, but the results will be a bit better. 'Mon ra monkeys.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumbria_blue 51 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Mildly interested to note they are moving their focus of complaint from the racist nature of the song to the 'other verses', which are in truth something I worry about...they are pretty rancid. I was going to start a thread about this, but a) I thought there were enough threads on this topic and b) I didn't get round to it. Do the verses predate the chorus, or vice versa. If it's a chorus someone made up, the fans sang, then someone decided to write verses for, it's a completely different issue. I don't know if that's true or not, but I have read (on here admittedly) that someone added the verses later. I had certainly never heard the verses until after it had been sung. If so, anyone could write racist verses to any song (YNWA?) and claim that the people who sing the non-racist version are being racist. Does anyone know the origin of this song, and the verses? If you mean that song on youtube, then we have never actually sang that at any ground. It has a different tune ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimenez 1 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Mildly interested to note they are moving their focus of complaint from the racist nature of the song to the 'other verses', which are in truth something I worry about...they are pretty rancid. I was going to start a thread about this, but a) I thought there were enough threads on this topic and b) I didn't get round to it. Do the verses predate the chorus, or vice versa. If it's a chorus someone made up, the fans sang, then someone decided to write verses for, it's a completely different issue. I don't know if that's true or not, but I have read (on here admittedly) that someone added the verses later. I had certainly never heard the verses until after it had been sung. If so, anyone could write racist verses to any song (YNWA?) and claim that the people who sing the non-racist version are being racist. Does anyone know the origin of this song, and the verses? I'm sure I heard the terraced lyrics before the 'dirty blighters' version. It's not an issue though as the Rangers fans have never sang the latter version. I do hope the Rangers support can wash their hands of it. It's vile and does us no favours, but the Rangers support in its entirety can't be held responsible for two blokes posting a song they wrote on the internet. As for Traynor.... Still hate him, I always will, anyone who condones violence against fellow bears will forever be nothing more than a stinking piece of shit IMO. But credit where its due, an excellent article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepeter 5,627 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Mildly interested to note they are moving their focus of complaint from the racist nature of the song to the 'other verses', which are in truth something I worry about...they are pretty rancid. I was going to start a thread about this, but a) I thought there were enough threads on this topic and b) I didn't get round to it. Do the verses predate the chorus, or vice versa. If it's a chorus someone made up, the fans sang, then someone decided to write verses for, it's a completely different issue. I don't know if that's true or not, but I have read (on here admittedly) that someone added the verses later. I had certainly never heard the verses until after it had been sung. If so, anyone could write racist verses to any song (YNWA?) and claim that the people who sing the non-racist version are being racist. Does anyone know the origin of this song, and the verses? I'm sure I heard the terraced lyrics before the 'dirty blighters' version. It's not an issue though as the Rangers fans have never sang the latter version. I do hope the Rangers support can wash their hands of it. It's vile and does us no favours, but the Rangers support in its entirety can't be held responsible for two blokes posting a song they wrote on the internet. As for Traynor.... Still hate him, I always will, anyone who condones violence against fellow bears will forever be nothing more than a stinking piece of shit IMO. But credit where its due, an excellent article. 100% agree with this post, and it's what I'm getting at in my post. If we do not and have never sung this song (as posted on YouTube) why are we being held responsible for its lyrics? As an example, pick any non-offensive song Celtc fans sing. Get two guys to dress up in Celtc scarves and sing a made-up racist version, post it on YouTube and are the Celtc fans singing a racist song? No, the guys who made up the YouTube version are. The fact is, the Rangers fans were singing The Famine Song before this version came to light. As you rightly say: It's vile and does us no favours, but the Rangers support in its entirety can't be held responsible for two blokes posting a song they wrote on the internet. Right, I'm off to write a racist version of YNWA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_ni 12 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 one of the best articles i have read for a long time. Finally someone has a bit of common sense and realises the famine song is nothing compared to their ira chants and wishing nacho novo dies in his sleep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejeff 16 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 welldone JT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,287 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Good article. No doubt next game they'll be singing about Traynor catching a bullet from the IRA. Watch for him evening it up though ... a little kick at septic with a great big kick at us to follow is how the usually work <_< Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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