BlueSuedeSambas 54,210 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Since he came back to the club Walter has spend a chunk of this "blown" 30 million on signing: Cuellar, Cousin, Miller, Bougherra, Thomson, Mendes & Davis. The afore mentioned players cost upwards of 16 million and have become/been vital players to us in the past couple of years I'm not saying he hasn't wasted money, because he has. But if we are going to slate him, let's at least get the facts right first Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepeter 5,627 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Facts? In a "hang Walter" thread? You must be joking mate? Seriously, agree totally. Walter has done plenty wrong, but certainly hasn't wasted £30m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricksen_da_best 2,034 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Were still second.. 7 points ahead of Hearts, who have spent.. about £30,000. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafloppyone 0 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 it could be argued that he lost 10million from the champions league and an embarrasing defeat to hearts reserve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amac9 2,060 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Were still second.. 7 points ahead of Hearts, who have spent.. about £30,000. Spot on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenDavis 112 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Cousin wasn't that well spent to be fair. He has his moments but was a total waster for the majority of last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chookes 21 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 I tend to agree but Davis was bought far too late. The £3M would have been better spent when we were crying out for a midfielder and when we were still in Europe. Cuellar, Bougherra, Thomson and Mendes were good buys though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youllneverwinaway 0 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Since he came back to the club Walter has spend a chunk of this "blown" 30 million on signing: Cuellar, Cousin, Miller, Bougherra, Thomson, Mendes & Davis. The afore mentioned players cost upwards of 16 million and have become/been vital players to us in the past couple of years I'm not saying he hasn't wasted money, because he has. But if we are going to slate him, let's at least get the facts right first The facts remain that he has spent £30 million + and still hasnt got a team good enough to beat Kaunas, St Mirren or Hearts ffs who between them probably dont even add up to £10 million He hasnt got a clue and if he is still losing to shite then im sorry, he HAS blown £30 million. Pissed it up a wall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tontospal 1,116 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Since he came back to the club Walter has spend a chunk of this "blown" 30 million on signing: Cuellar, Cousin, Miller, Bougherra, Thomson, Mendes & Davis. The afore mentioned players cost upwards of 16 million and have become/been vital players to us in the past couple of years I'm not saying he hasn't wasted money, because he has. But if we are going to slate him, let's at least get the facts right first He has wasted millions, for the simple reason that we haven't won the title, we lost to Kaunus and are 7 points behind this season. On top of that the quality of our play is very poor. Although those players are/were vital players they are only part of a team, which isn't good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gronaldo 38 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Obviously some of the 30 million (if we're going to use that figure) wasn't wasted, but the point is that the money has been spent and as a whole we're not much better off in comparison to other teams. It leads some people to think that spending half of that money (or none of it) wouldn't have made much of a difference to the standard of team we have. In that sense the money has been wasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWhiteBlue1872 407 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Of course he hasnt common sense, Davis,Mendes,Bougherra,Miller,Thomson etc yes they are good buys but he has spunked the rest on mediocre pish , Lafferty???? Whittaker McCulloch,Velicka and so on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueIsTheColour 35 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Also, we recovered around half of the money Walter has spent on the transfers of Hutton, Cuellar and Cousin. So overall, his net spend is in the region of £12-13 million. To be honest, the only time you hear people say that Walter has "wasted £30 million" is when they are trying to explain why Walter's second tenure has been completely unsuccessful thus far. We all twist facts to back-up our oppinions, it's just part of the fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amac9 2,060 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Andy Webster Lee McCulloch Andrius Velicka Steven Whittaker Kyle Lafferty Plus other shite signings that cost less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gronaldo 38 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Also, we recovered around half of the money Walter has spent on the transfers of Hutton, Cuellar and Cousin. So overall, his net spend is in the region of £12-13 million. This is true with Cuellar and Cousin because Smith brought them to the club and sold them for a profit, but you can't credit him for things like the sale of Hutton. He happened to be the manager when Hutton was sold, but he didn't create that money, he simply agreed to sell an asset that we already had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenDavis 112 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Lafferty is only 21. He's getting played out of position and is getting the wrath of Rangers fans. He will improve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddrock 107 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Since he came back to the club Walter has spend a chunk of this "blown" 30 million on signing: Cuellar, Cousin, Miller, Bougherra, Thomson, Mendes & Davis. The afore mentioned players cost upwards of 16 million and have become/been vital players to us in the past couple of years I'm not saying he hasn't wasted money, because he has. But if we are going to slate him, let's at least get the facts right first The facts remain that he has spent £30 million + and still hasnt got a team good enough to beat Kaunas, St Mirren or Hearts ffs who between them probably dont even add up to £10 million He hasnt got a clue and if he is still losing to shite then im sorry, he HAS blown £30 million. Pissed it up a wall Bang on , if he had 50 million he still wouldnt do it as he has no leadership skills Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigy 0 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Also, we recovered around half of the money Walter has spent on the transfers of Hutton, Cuellar and Cousin. So overall, his net spend is in the region of £12-13 million. To be honest, the only time you hear people say that Walter has "wasted £30 million" is when they are trying to explain why Walter's second tenure has been completely unsuccessful thus far. We all twist facts to back-up our oppinions, it's just part of the fun. Alex McLeish's net spend was something like -£13million IIRC. Smith has had around £30million to build a team and we're still struggling against teams who are building teams with less than we spend on one player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOLUWDC 1 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 it could be argued that he lost 10million from the champions league and an embarrasing defeat to hearts reserve It could also be argued that he earned £25 million from the European run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GersDude90 1 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Smith has spent an awful lot of money in terms of the spl and made us nothing more than average. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Also, we recovered around half of the money Walter has spent on the transfers of Hutton, Cuellar and Cousin. So overall, his net spend is in the region of £12-13 million. To be honest, the only time you hear people say that Walter has "wasted £30 million" is when they are trying to explain why Walter's second tenure has been completely unsuccessful thus far. We all twist facts to back-up our oppinions, it's just part of the fun. Completely unsucessful so far - except for 2 cups and a UEFA cup final appearence in the only season he could win anything and this season is NOT dead yet -At last look we still had a treble to go for and its a long season for those panicking about the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueIsTheColour 35 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Also, we recovered around half of the money Walter has spent on the transfers of Hutton, Cuellar and Cousin. So overall, his net spend is in the region of £12-13 million. To be honest, the only time you hear people say that Walter has "wasted £30 million" is when they are trying to explain why Walter's second tenure has been completely unsuccessful thus far. We all twist facts to back-up our oppinions, it's just part of the fun. Completely unsucessful so far - except for 2 cups and a UEFA cup final appearence in the only season he could win anything and this season is NOT dead yet -At last look we still had a treble to go for and its a long season for those panicking about the league. I wasn't saying that his reign has been unsuccessful i was stating that people use that stat when THEY are arguing that it has been unsuccessful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
broxi51 48 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 it could be argued that he lost 10million from the champions league and an embarrasing defeat to hearts reserve It could also be argued that he earned £25 million from the European run. most of it blown on bonuses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadaready 9,437 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Since he came back to the club Walter has spend a chunk of this "blown" 30 million on signing: Cuellar, Cousin, Miller, Bougherra, Thomson, Mendes & Davis. The afore mentioned players cost upwards of 16 million and have become/been vital players to us in the past couple of years I'm not saying he hasn't wasted money, because he has. But if we are going to slate him, let's at least get the facts right first Every person associated with signings waste money. It is just a reality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzas_Flute 11 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Technically yes he has , What have we done apart from a Uefa cup final that we laid down in and won two diddy cups ? 36million and 2 years later. Doesn't seem so sucsessfull. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delparlane 5,720 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 He hasn't necessarily blown the money on signings. His baffling selections and tactics are what are killing us more than anything. Can't slate Velicka, as he hasn't got a sniff. Lafferty - played out of position and being crucified for not doing well, so I'm willing to cut him a good deal of slack. Long ball tactics, ridiculous substitutions, lack of motivation, fear of the new (i.e. youth) ... what have you. He's bought some quality players, he just doesn't seem to have a clue what to do with them most of the time. And as for those few buys that are transparently not working, they remain in the line-up or on the bench. Go figure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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