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Say it all the time but people can't call the players losers and shitebags while also saying cups don't matter.

Both things are true, IMO. His absence has had an impact, both as a player and simply as a left footed left back.
It's clear the structure of the team is completely fucked, but it wasn't great against Motherwell either. Replacing Ridvan with Borna who is on his way out doesn't work as he's leaving and clearly not at his best, and using Sterling there leaves us unbalanced. 
All of that said, we should still have been able to see off the last two opponents.

Celtic are set up to have a bad season and instantly recover from it and be ready to challenge again the following season and truth be told have been since the summer they hired O'neil
We used to be too pre 2012 where even during poor seasons under mcleish and Le guen you could still comfort yourself with thinking "we will get the cunts back next season".
Now everything is a project with a 2-3 year plan which was understandable in 2016 when we first arrived but the fact we are still here in 2024 after a title win and a European final with this same attitude is alarming . They have had two what you can class as disastrous seasons in that two decades spell . The Mowbary year and the 55 season. Some hilarious and fantastic memories from both of course but reality is they were back either seriously challenging or winning the league within the next season.

Fair enough fuck all mate he’s talking absolute shite 

100% the worst part of our fanbase these days is the attitude towards cups from some
Cant understand it at all

He's turning into Michael Beale.  

I generally agree with the pressure argument but I'd disagree on low expectations being the reason they turn up in Europe.
For me, most of us inside and outside the stadium expect and demand to win at home in Europe - almost always, regardless of budgets. Away from home it might be slightly different, but I think there's just as much expectation on a European night at Ibrox as there is domestically. 

The old adage is that successful teams must have a good spine; keeper, central defender, central midfielder, central striker. We certainly do not have that, no dominant striker, we have no midfield at all, central defence  is all over the place. No wonder we have little belief.

Wild how many people wet the bed over this shit.

read the other day that we actually score above average. Around 4% compared to average of around 2%

Aye, that's fair. I'm just not sure across 90 minutes how much that matters. I guess it is the anxiety of how they'll be remembered/perceived for bottling the league games, as opposed to choking against Benfica. The latter is something that will be sooner forgotten. 
As I said, and as I've been posting elsewhere, I agree on the fear/poor mentality point. Just think it's not true to suggest there isn't high expectation in Europe.

I generally agree with the pressure argument but I'd disagree on low expectations being the reason they turn up in Europe.
For me, most of us inside and outside the stadium expect and demand to win at home in Europe - almost always, regardless of budgets. Away from home it might be slightly different, but I think there's just as much expectation on a European night at Ibrox as there is domestically. 

Wild how many people wet the bed over this shit.

Wild how many people wet the bed over this shit.

He didn't come out and say he's lying either. Just basically to keep your powder dry in the media, which is what he is doing. Manager handling this very professionally.

Clement can't come out and say aye he's right. 
Gerrard threw players under the bus all the time, it never works. 

I'm guessing he means disappointed.

Still a question mark, according to Clement.

We are in his second season now.
For the most part he's been injured. Last season and most of the first half of this season when he actually played he was very poor.
He had a good run of form and is now injured again.
We cannot keep carrying players like this in the squad.

It might look like half arsing it but it's not. It's because they freeze. They can't make the correct decisions and they can't make them quickly. So they end up with this lethargic passing from side to side that looks half arsed. Usually the passes are a yard or two behind the receiver or bobbling around so that they have to check their movement to receive the ball. Makes it easy to stay in shape and shuffle around for the opponent. 

I think midfield is a big issue for us and has been for a while. Lundstram needs to leave.

It might look like half arsing it but it's not. It's because they freeze. They can't make the correct decisions and they can't make them quickly. So they end up with this lethargic passing from side to side that looks half arsed. Usually the passes are a yard or two behind the receiver or bobbling around so that they have to check their movement to receive the ball. Makes it easy to stay in shape and shuffle around for the opponent. 

I think it would be even worse to have them in a squad and not playing.