Virtuoso 27,180 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 http://www.vanguardbears.co.uk/article.php?i=166&a=remove-the-cancer Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsden bear 2,376 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Good article. I agree we need to be more on the front foot and fight fire with fire re lawell and his dereliction of his duties Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 great stuff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 why aren't the Rangers fans that feel the need to phone into clyde 1, talksport etc not raising these issues for discussions? if they get cut off then the next caller should pick up the baton and keep at them about it. why aren't the RFFF taking ut a £1500 advert in some rhag to bring this up? but most of all - where the fuck is the boards statement on all of this?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordersbear 1,105 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Good piece. How do we get it into the mainstream? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,610 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Would be good if Rangers could release a decent statement like that why as a Board we hide from them I will never know.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siam69 26,925 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Brilliant article, one of the best from VB's I've read in a while. Articulate, sensible, pragmatic, and telling it as it really is. Even non Rangers fans would find it hard to argue with it, well, apart from those who can't see their hand in front of them, they're blinded by so much sectarian hatred. This sums these moon howlers up - 'celtic are not normal, however, and neither is Scottish football. Many across the city have convinced themselves that Rangers employment of EBTs had a material impact on their club. It doesn't matter that this doesn't make sense to normal people, because it makes sense to those who have been fed grievance all their lives, and those who judge others by their own actions' The above VB piece is exactly what our Board should be putting out, in a condensed version.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,724 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 A great article. However let's assume Liewell left, do we really think the cancer would be gone? I don't. I think he leads it well but that club is the cancer, their players fans employees and board permit or ignore crimes against children, acts of racism, support of terrorist organisations and individuals, and despise this country they play in. Yes, cut off the snakes head. But that cancer has spread and needs tackled throughout that club not just at source. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 100pc correct he needs thrown out on his arse.he has lied in the past in order to gain unfair advantage.ie tour of Japan. He is 100pc behind the financial success of his club.success on the park is secondary and is not a good role model for the structure of the game in this country Saying that .the statement from the weekend is just bluster .he knows himself that the authorities have no intention or jurisdiction to impose more penalties on Rangers .but issuing this statement keeps the hordes happy that he appears to be doing something .nicely timed too as it deflects attention away from tonight's game where they could easily be on the end of a very heavy defeat .there has been very little investment in the team compared to the champions league revenue of 2 seasons now .a heavy defeat tonight will see questions being asked of what is happening to the vast sums gained .throwing stuff like this out there deflects attention away from where football is played.ie on the pitch Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Our Board and Fans Group should ask VB for some advice on tackling these bastards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsleftboot 5,512 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 39 minutes ago, Virtuoso said: http://www.vanguardbears.co.uk/article.php?i=166&a=remove-the-cancer Can't open the link, any chance of a cut and paste? Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulboy 2,518 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 They should have added why has no one challenged the scum on the film tax scheme dodge, were the scum complicit when a player signed they gave them the details on the tax dodge. Now if they hadn't given them the details of the tax dodge would the scum have been able to afford these players. Seems rather convenient that nearly the entire MON squad was involved in said tax dodge including liewell and reilly. Rangers should be asking for an enquiry into all clubs finances in the name of sporting integrity of course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GersInCanada 7,775 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I sometimes disagree with the stance taken by VB but on this occassion they have hit the nail on the head. That cancerous piece of scum needs to driven out of Scottish football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I don't really care about articles, I want official reaction from our club regarding this. I'm sick of us being a soft-touch and putting up with any shit thrown at us. The mentality that made us what we are is uncompromising ruthlessness - this is something that needs to be inherent in almost all parts of our club - and it is the complete opposite we have at boardroom level. Grow a pair of big baws, and start fighting for us otherwise you are taking the piss out of an extremely loyal support. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
With Heart and Hand 8,949 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I certainly hope Vanguard Bears get the opportunity to increase their shareholding percentage again in the near future, the only major shareholding group that seem to give a single fuck about this issue. Wish the board had the bottle to make a statement half as good as that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluenose88 132 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Another well written and on point article. However, the same problem exists as with all the other articles like this. Unless a way can be found to get it mainstream it is just us preaching to our own choir.  I wish I had an answer, but I think the only way is from official club releases or actions and I don't foresee that happening anytime soon. Also, for me, to question what sceptic has to gain from dragging Scottish football down is a little naive.  It is not in their interest to have a strong SPFL, nor do they need a better TV deal to assist them. Continued destabilization of our domestic scene simply strengthens their position financially, so long as they continue to get a free pass to champions league riches. For let's be very clear, any improved TV deal to benefit the greater good of the Scottish game would still pale in comparison to the 30 million these bastards receive. I don't see them letting up anytime soon unless, as VB and others promote, we go on the front foot and attack, but in the mainstream. Until then, articles like this at least help keep the message front and centre in our own fan base. Never forgive, never forget.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,545 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 52 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said: whay aren't the Rangers fans that feel the need to phone into clyde 1, talksport etc not raising these issues for discussions? if they get cut of fthen the next caller should pick up the baton and kep at them about it. why aren't the RFFF taking ut a £1500 advert in some rhag to bring this up? but most of all - where the fuck is the boards statement on all of this?? Calls are screened first, not a chance a bear gets to fight his corner, even if you lied to get on, there is a slight delay so a change in topic has you cut off right away Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalfollower 1,543 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Wonder how much it would cost to hire the linfield guy who actually defends his club Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,137 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Personally I don't think our board need to do anything at present, let's face it it's all bluster by the scum, they've been told to fuck off, it's not going to happen. If however they keep pushing without the fabled support of other clubs then the Rangers board have to come out fighting. No doubt they will get on their high horse again if the compliance officer finds against us Hope they take a right good pumping tonight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger ranger 922 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, ritchieshearercaldow said: Personally I don't think our board need to do anything at present, let's face it it's all bluster by the scum, they've been told to fuck off, it's not going to happen. If however they keep pushing without the fabled support of other clubs then the Rangers board have to come out fighting. No doubt they will get on their high horse again if the compliance officer finds against us Hope they take a right good pumping tonight. Especially after the Paddy Power gloat, what goes round comes round. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 27 minutes ago, ritchieshearercaldow said: Personally I don't think our board need to do anything at present, let's face it it's all bluster by the scum, they've been told to fuck off, it's not going to happen. If however they keep pushing without the fabled support of other clubs then the Rangers board have to come out fighting. No doubt they will get on their high horse again if the compliance officer finds against us Hope they take a right good pumping tonight. Ask any football fan in scotland were EBT's legal or illegal?? They will tell you they were illegal. Ask any person in the street that has read/heard even the smallest bit of media reporting on us in the last 6 years, were EBT's legal or illegal?? They will tell you they were illegal. Ask both of these groups did Rangers break the law to win titles and get away with it?? They will say yes. All of the above is total bollocks, but our club is sitting saying fuck all while this narrative is pumped out day after day. We need to start fighting back against this pish before it's too late if it's not already past that point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOPLITE 221 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: Ask any football fan in scotland were EBT's legal or illegal?? They will tell you they were illegal. Ask any person in the street that has read/heard even the smallest bit of media reporting on us in the last 6 years, were EBT's legal or illegal?? They will tell you they were illegal. Ask both of these groups did Rangers break the law to win titles and get away with it?? They will say yes. All of the above is total bollocks, but our club is sitting saying fuck all while this narrative is pumped out day after day. We need to start fighting back against this pish before it's too late if it's not already past that point.  Taking the likes of Speirs and English to court and suing them for every penny they have for years of lies would send out a message. Its the same gang that have been pumping out this rubbish consistently over the last 5 years and they ain't letting up anytime soon time they were silenced once and for all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 14,055 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: Ask any football fan in scotland were EBT's legal or illegal?? They will tell you they were illegal. Ask any person in the street that has read/heard even the smallest bit of media reporting on us in the last 6 years, were EBT's legal or illegal?? They will tell you they were illegal. Ask both of these groups did Rangers break the law to win titles and get away with it?? They will say yes. All of the above is total bollocks, but our club is sitting saying fuck all while this narrative is pumped out day after day. We need to start fighting back against this pish before it's too late if it's not already past that point. Absolutely right. They have pushed this myth for the last 5/6 years and people have heard it that often they believe it is true. The club do need to fight back,and nip this latest one in the bud. The timing from celtic and lawell is deliberate and dangerous. We have the old firm game in just over a weeks time, and the spfl and SFA should be questioning them over the timing of this, not getting involved in his power games. Pathetic, and we should be demanding he steps down as he is bringing the game here into disrepute. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, HOPLITE said:  Taking the likes of Speirs and English to court and suing them for every penny they have for years of lies would send out a message. Its the same gang that have been pumping out this rubbish consistently over the last 5 years and they ain't letting up anytime soon time they were silenced once and for all. Spot on ? Would just take one of the cunts getting hammered in court for everyone of them to start treading carefully.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 14,055 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, HOPLITE said:  Taking the likes of Speirs and English to court and suing them for every penny they have for years of lies would send out a message. Its the same gang that have been pumping out this rubbish consistently over the last 5 years and they ain't letting up anytime soon time they were silenced once and for all. The lies and hatred they spout has worked ,as people believe the lies and half truths to be fact. You are right, if we start suing then they will hopefully stop. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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