gogzy 31,195 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 In what way would we be doing pretty well?We paid less than that for him. He was still the best LB in Scotland when we bought him, he has spent two years playing against "posties, brickies etc ( to steal a phrase often used)"He has done nothing to merit an increase in the money we bought him for because he has spent two years playing against worse opposition than he was playing against when bought for that sum.IF we were in the top flight and he was destroying these top flight teams week in and week out, then I think we would have a case for demanding better money. But where we are and the position we are in, getting our money back for him isn't the worst bit of business we could do.I would obviously prefer to see some dead wood shifted, but that don't look likely till the summer.Why do YOU think he is worth more than we paid for him? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Smails 13 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Because they got millions for Ki, Robocop (who?) and Hooper!!!!Wanyama. I think he has the same agility and movement as Robocop. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Eh?Green was the one who actually bought our assets and raised 22m.Oh i agree, but the reason I put him in there with the others is he is clearly culpable of short termism and letting us run with wage bills and a costbase that is unsustainable in the medium term. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamFyfe 1,438 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 He's defo gonna go. If we accept 1.5 I'll cry Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 What if you just believe that Lee Wallace is possibly being sold?He doesn't want to go .But they wont Tell you that .They will only Tell you the Negative shit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLawMan 6,240 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 We are in a unique position.Selling him does us no favours at all.That wasnt the point being made though. It was the fact we would be doing lucky to get £1.5m for him.......IF we were going to sell him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Smails 13 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 The number of fans and ST means nothing when talking about the level a player has been playing at for 2 seasons...You think we are going to get more for a player when we have gone down the divisions playing against part time teams?Where is the logic in that?Honestly think about what you are saying here....No - sorry if I am not being clear - He should simply not be sold.Unless it's ridiculous money we are talking about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Because we need the money, you can ask for the stars if;1. You don't need the cash.2. Your player has several years left to run on their deal.So what if Forrest say Fuck off .Or what if Lee says No .Is it Admin 2 Then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 We paid less than that for him. He was still the best LB in Scotland when we bought him, he has spent two years playing against "posties, brickies etc ( to steal a phrase often used)"He has done nothing to merit an increase in the money we bought him for because he has spent two years playing against worse opposition than he was playing against when bought for that sum.IF we were in the top flight and he was destroying these top flight teams week in and week out, then I think we would have a case for demanding better money. But where we are and the position we are in, getting our money back for him isn't the worst bit of business we could do.I would obviously prefer to see some dead wood shifted, but that don't look likely till the summer.Why do YOU think he is worth more than we paid for him?...................a bid of £1.5m from Rangers was accepted by Hearts. Wallace signed a five-year deal with the club, becoming Ally McCoist's second signing of the summerWhy should we sell him for less than we paid for him?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Smails 13 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 That wasnt the point being made though. It was the fact we would be doing lucky to get £1.5m for him.......IF we were going to sell him.It was by me.Unless we rake in a fee that actually makes a difference, no point in being pleased with what we paid for him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FernandoR20 2,133 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Oh i agree, but the reason I put him in there with the others is he is clearly culpable of short termism and letting us run with wage bills and a costbase that is unsustainable in the medium term.Fair enough.Although i'm sure he said he was wanting to cut the wage bill? Could be wrong but i'm sure he said that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 No - sorry if I am not being clear - He should simply not be sold.Unless it's ridiculous monet we are talking about.Correct. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 ...................a bid of £1.5m from Rangers was accepted by Hearts. Wallace signed a five-year deal with the club, becoming Ally McCoist's second signing of the summerWhy should we sell him for less than we paid for him??yup, we got money off that for paying it up early and helping Hearts out before they went into admin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,059 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 No - sorry if I am not being clear - He should simply not be sold.Unless it's ridiculous monet we are talking about.I don't want him sold either, I'm just pointing out the reasons why we won't get anymore than the money we paid for him. The board would not be to blame for not holding out for more in that respect.If Lee wants to stay and we don't feel we HAVE to sell then ideal.However I see things heating up between now and Friday and I just hope we can find other solutions rather than sell Lee. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Smails 13 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Why do YOU think he is worth more than we paid for him?Because he will cost more to replace. North Rd 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Because he will cost more to replace.Not necessarily. In the short term we will put Stevie Smith in their and hope for the best. Get 2 years out him and hope he cuts it in the SPL Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 We are in a unique position.Selling him does us no favours at all.You are Correct again .It does us more Damage than Good.But I'm Glad Lee will say No to Leaving Rangers ,he wants to stay with us.I will lose all Trust in Graham Wallace if he Insists on this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Not necessarily. In the short term we will put Stevie Smith in their and hope for the best. Get 2 years out him and hope he cuts it in the SPLSteven Smith to replace Lee Wallace .Aye right. No Comparison. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBagalag 722 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,287 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Given the financial situation this is virtually inevitable ... still can't can't believe how quickly we have blown the share money Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Let me ask you this One Question .Has Lee Wallace Proved he is a Champions League Player in a Premiership Class Level League?He is an Internationalist also ,and well worth 3-4 Mil. That's a Fucking Fact .And TBH the Player doesn't want to Go ,that's a Fact too.So its really up to the Player. Rangers are Shite in the Transfer Market both Selling Cheap and Buying Expensive .No wonder we went to shit.Of course it's up to him, a club might encourage a player to go but contrary to myth they can't force them Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Smails 13 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Not necessarily. In the short term we will put Stevie Smith in their and hope for the best. Get 2 years out him and hope he cuts it in the SPLYou would prefer to see how we get on with Stevie Smith - bank a pittence - than hang on to Lee Wallace. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 You are Correct again .It does us more Damage than Good.But I'm Glad Lee will say No to Leaving Rangers ,he wants to stay with us.I will lose all Trust in Graham Wallace if he Insists on this.I wont lose trust in GW - if he thinks we need this then he is the man in charge - I feel he wouldn't do it unless he felt it was necessary. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Steven Smith to replace Lee Wallace .Aye right. No Comparison.thats what will happen. I agree with you, but will we really need Wallace for the next 18 months or will Smith do a job? the answers obvious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Smails 13 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I wont lose trust in GW - if he thinks we need this then he is the man in charge - I feel he wouldn't do it unless he felt it was necessary.If it is necessary we are in trouble - Something he says we are not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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