Jimfanciesthedude 24,701 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Summed up my point beautifully Jim. Thanks.You carry on point scoring though mate. i will, especially given how you backed the failed manager who threw money at everything, and still failed Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,701 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Neil Murray again .What the fuck is with our club .Ffs at this rate ,I can see Ally being invited back in some capacity .I'm not as confident as many others ,this is going to go well .didnt green sack murray, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,621 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Summed up my point beautifully Jim. Thanks.You carry on point scoring though mate. Ironic, given all the quotes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 i will, especially given how you backed the failed manager who threw money at everything, and still failedI was wrong Jim. Sorry. I thought it was best to be supportive towards the team and manager, a man I respected. That's just how I show my support. Have you ever been wrong? I'm backing Warburton now. You carry on living in the past though mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Ironic, given all the quotes.Don't you have a window to lick? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 didnt green sack murray, Not sure but he was Ally's scout .Depressing if you ask me .He never exactly found us any gems Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 he didnt, he said we shouldnt have, thats my point, his vocal backing of mccoist on here is a complete turn around from his comment about being prudentin the last 3 years mccoist wasted more money than any other rangers manager in historyI'm saying shouldn't we have learned our lessons by now, or do you think we should repeat the same mistakes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,621 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Don't you have a window to lick?I feel for you i really do if this the best patter you can find. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 I feel for you i really do if this the best patter you can find.Your opinions carry no weight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,621 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Your opinions carry no weight. Good to know. always good to get an opinion weighed on a thread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Good to know. always good to get an opinion weighed on a thread.I don't know what happened to you mate. You used to be quite sensible, and funny. Now you are just a tedious, negative bore.I've made my point, so I'll leave you to it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross-Gazza genius 1,918 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 It's embarrassing that we still don't have a scouting network but maybe when the board identified Warburton or Cathro as possible managers with the background they have wanted to sit down and discuss the best way forward, rather than just employing folk to fill positions.Unfortunately I don't think this issue will be sorted until after the transfer window has closed as Warburton and Weir will be focusing on getting playing staff in and our new playing philosophy drilled out in training. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,621 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 I don't know what happened to you mate. You used to be quite sensible, and funny. Now you are just a tedious, negative bore.I've made my point, so I'll leave you to it. Another opinion weighed by the boards weigher of opinions, Well done once again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,621 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 We have to ask ourselves how come Hearts managed to get so organised but this new board of blundering lying idiots go from one farce to the next.Everything seems to take time with them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,701 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 I'm saying shouldn't we have learned our lessons by now, or do you think we should repeat the same mistakes?so running up a 30mill debt and having Lloyds in charge wasnt a good chance to learn our lesson, or even administration wasnt a good time to learn our lesson?i thought so, but you didnt given you backed the clown that tried to spend 21million to win 2 part time leagues and the scottish championship Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,701 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Not sure but he was Ally's scout .Depressing if you ask me .He never exactly found us any gemsgiven who he recommended back then, thank fuck he did get the dan mack Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 so running up a 30mill debt and having Lloyds in charge wasnt a good chance to learn our lesson, or even administration wasnt a good time to learn our lesson?i thought so, but you didnt given you backed the clown that tried to spend 21million to win 2 part time leagues and the scottish championshipI apologised Jim. I'm a terrible human being. Also my point was about supporters learning. The board do seem to have learnt lessons, they aren't just pissing money away, yet some fans are criticising them for it. I think you agree that we shouldn't be mindlessly throwing money at a scouting network, instead we should be prudent about it and trust MW to lay the foundations...? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 In my heady days as a youth team manager, the majority of Scottish scouts disgusted me and I found Ranger's scouts to be of the worst kind. I personally knew a few at our club and the rule of the day was a players height. One took me aside and explained that if the boy wasn't a face even with the height then he had no chance long term ie. a distant relative of the establishment, Watty's nephew 23 times removed. I had an under 13's centre forward ex scum FC pro youth who had been moved on because of his lack of discipline and as I got to know him I understood this. He was the most talented young player I have ever seen. Couldn't get the ball off him and could sidestep anyone in front of him. Used to take the piss out of goalkeepers. The Rangers scout reported, TOO SMALL! He wasn't the tallest on the planet, but neither was he the smallest. The boy was so disillusioned he just dropped out of the game altogether and took to the streets.I could tell a similar story on many a young talented player. In general, our youth system and scouting network up here is just incestuous and it reflects in the current standard of our product on offer at the top level. I am also very friendly with an ex SPL Manager and Scotland player and he reinforced my view. Destroying young talent and corrupt and rotten to the fucking core! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jafrfc 614 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 No, its not a managers remit and leaves the club open to backhanders for the manager to sign his friends recomendationsOn the other hand he would be getting reports from people who he trusted but I get where your coming from. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBluebells 6,898 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 It really should have been one of the first things done, if it's still not done when exactly is good enough for it to be done?How come Hearts managed to sort their shit out so bloody quick and we still appear to be missing some basics for a football club to function? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon 1,744 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 See there's the rub, you, nor I know if there's been a lack of any movement or whether the board are diligently working away in the background to secure the people we need.I'll certainly not wait 2.5 years to criticise the current board (unlike others on here who couldn't find their tounge to say anything bad about the old mob), but I'm not going tonto after 4 months either.As I said, lacking balance otherwise People haven't just started complaining about the scouting network. The majority on here have been complaining about it for a long time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 74,464 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Said it before on here but we're in danger of missing out on a generation of players if we dont get our act together re:scouting set-up and youth set-up..Also going to lose a lot of good scouts and coaches.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geronimoo 1,478 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 No, its not a managers remit and leaves the club open to backhanders for the manager to sign his friends recomendationsYou mean like the way the club has been run for years and years then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 People haven't just started complaining about the scouting network. The majority on here have been complaining about it for a long time.That doesn't suit the latest smear job agenda against RM thought does it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Al .I agree mate .I'm confident Warburton will get it right .What worries me Are the club capable of giving Weir and himself the tools to function? .This early and going by what Davie is saying .Maybe things aren't as smooth as they were hoping it was going to be .I know we agree on many things .Your the optimist and maybe I'm the pessimist here .Think things have to start happening very soon though . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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