glasgow argyle 1,093 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 What about 14 teams, play everyone home and away which gives you 26 games, keep the split but 7 and 7, play home and away again, makes it 40 games and keeps 4 old firm games in place to keep the TV companies happyi have for a very long time wanted a 14 team league, however a 7 and 7 split, will not work I.M.O. means 1 team idle every week of split.i would split the top 6 giving a total of 36 league games, this is by far enough games for those teams in Europe (albeit not usually there very long)and/ or supply International players.the bottom 8 would play more games 40 in total but this gives the smaller clubs increased revenue Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsden bear 2,376 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Unlikely to happen next season. I heard the Alloa guy on the radio the other night (spfl board member) he was asked about increasing top league and he said that the tv deal was based around current set up and this would make change difficult in short term.Thats not to say they cant rustle something ip in a hurry if it suits certain influential parties mind! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 How is having 2 more teams going to change anything?The issue with Scottish football is a grass roots problem, when I stayed in the States the high school football stadium was probably bigger than Berwick Rangers stadium, there were three college stadiums with 40-60,000 capacity. There were dozens of kids football and baseball teams within a few miles of my house, every school had a football, "soccer", basketball and softball teams. Kids are focused on sports from a very young age and encouraged to keep at it with things like Uni Scholarships etc and things like the NFL college draft.Then you come here and you barely even see kids kicking a ball about any more, theyre in playing the PS4. I dont even know if my high school even had a football team, they certainly didnt encourage people to come see the games or anything. Theres no sort of college teams, at least not in the same way as they are in the US.Even if Scottish Football did get a big boost in cash from BT sport, even if it was the same money as the EPL, it would just make us collapse because we dont have the youth to sustain it.And they think adding 2 more teams to the SPL, probably reducing the amount of OF games, is going to help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky True Legend 2,682 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I think it was Aberdeen and also Hibernian who were saved when they were due a relegation in the 1990s. Falkirk were possibly the team penalised twice though. Which as RedSox has been saying is obviously a shocking injustice for them and they have no doubt suffered financially over the years. Poor bastards. Poor bastards nothing! Other teams put their resources into improving their facilities. Falkirk thought that their inadequate facilities would be overlooked so only put money into the team. They knew the rules but hoped they would be ignored in their favour. They deserved all they got (or didn't get). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitzer007 198 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Anything that stops us playing each other 4 times a season! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redsox1 1,361 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Poor bastards nothing! Other teams put their resources into improving their facilities. Falkirk thought that their inadequate facilities would be overlooked so only put money into the team. They knew the rules but hoped they would be ignored in their favour. They deserved all they got (or didn't get).but they were also banned from groundsharing. Unlike the bheasts who were allowed to.Fine if its one rule for all , which clearly isn`t the case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectre 1,663 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I would welcome restructure as long as it removes the split and is nothing like the plan the Aberdeen chairman was in tears over which could potentially tally have led to no relegation / promotion as bottom 4 SPL and top 4 division 1 went into a play off for the4 SPL positions Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky True Legend 2,682 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 but they were also banned from groundsharing. Unlike the bheasts who were allowed to.Fine if its one rule for all , which clearly isn`t the case. That was just as a result of their actions; trying to play the system. No sympathy for them at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,057 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Bearing in mind the league cup group stage will now start in mid July, a 40 match league campaign is just too much.After the initial season I would be hoping we were back in Europe, we wouldn't be in the group phase by then.Is the idea of the league cup groups not to do away with pre season friendlies, like the juniors do with what was known as the "Jackie Scarlett" league cup. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Has to be 18 team league and just home and away instead of this 4 times a season pish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juniorsparkie 491 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 2 leagues of 20 would do. It's ok saying there would be loads of meaningless games, but there's that anyway.Everyone plays twice a season. Once each home and away.It's an incentive for the second league of 20 to really push and get the top flight revenues against us and Celtic.It's all about money, though, and the top flight teams would lose too much taking away extra Old Firm games. Would be like Turkey's voting for Christmas.Would this save Dundee United? surely it's at least a seasons notice?I think it states the relegated team is still relegated even though more would come up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Kool Blue 139 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I don't know what the number would be, but I'd be tempted to do something similar to the MLS. A regular season, which awards a "fans cup" or something, then a championship play-off between the top 4 clubs for the title and European spots. Pretty crazy I know, but we need something radical in Scottish football to garner interest once again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,502 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I don't know what the number would be, but I'd be tempted to do something similar to the MLS. A regular season, which awards a "fans cup" or something, then a championship play-off between the top 4 clubs for the title and European spots. Pretty crazy I know, but we need something radical in Scottish football to garner interest once again. Finish 1st yet might not win the league, shite idea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffbear 4,096 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Moving deckchairs on the titanic. ..We need lower prices...safe standing...summer football..more attention to youth. .Make it attractive to go as most go out of loyalty now and not excitement about the product.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
there'sonlyoneamoruso 1,724 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Has to be 18 team league and just home and away instead of this 4 times a season pish.Totally agree. This should be the way forward, but the chairmen can't see past milking the blue pound as much as possible which means keeping 4 times a season. It is pish - they should be looking to improve the product on the pitch and give fans what they want. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lidl 191 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 You have 18 teams in the top league and you'll end up with part-timers finishing in the relegation zone and swapping places every season. It would be pointless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNightInFlorence 696 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 A 16 team league playing 30 games a season would be my preference. Playing teams 4 times in a single league season is just too much. I'd rather play each team twice, once at home and once away. I reckon average attendances would improve as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 A 16 team league playing 30 games a season would be my preference.Playing teams 4 times in a single league season is just too much. I'd rather play each team twice, once at home and once away. I reckon average attendances would improve as well.This and revamp both cups. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 A 16 team league playing 30 games a season would be my preference. Playing teams 4 times in a single league season is just too much. I'd rather play each team twice, once at home and once away. I reckon average attendances would improve as well.Of course it would, there would be 8 games less.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlands plater 16,982 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 There's too many clubs for the population of this country. Amalgamate some of the shite in Fife, the east coast and Central Scotland. Two leagues of sixteen in the maximum we can sustain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 3,872 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 The spfl needs to be as large a division as possible. We should be looking for a top league of 16-18 teams. Does that mean more shit games to begin with...absolutely.But the strength of a large league is that allows your middle sized clubs to build a side without fear of relegation. If the EPL was a 12 team league, would the likes of Everton, spurs, Swansea, ever be able to build a side without that fear? The short term mentality of Scottish football is deeply rooted in our league structure Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomber 177 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 whatever happens and I agree it should be a 14 club set up,we have to win this championship title and also the petrofac cup.we can`t have the rest of Scottish football saying our team couldn`t win these diddy competitions while we played in them!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rab wilson 3,246 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 It's simple IMO 18 team SPL - no daft splits. 2 go down automatically. 1 goes into a playoff.24 team championship that has Old Firm B teams. 2 auto up and the next 3 also enter play off (excluding B teams)Maybe make the championship start mid July and play twice a week until mid October to ease fixture congestion later onGets my vote.simple and the academy boys from us and the tinks get to play professional football against grown men instead of lads their age,but it won't happen.cos that would mean Scottish football would at last move forward, and those corrupt bassas at hampden can't let that happen. Imagine hammering celtic home and away in 2 separate leagues in the same season.fuckin fantastic!!!No SurrenderRab Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime69 514 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 What about 14 teams, play everyone home and away which gives you 26 games, keep the split but 7 and 7, play home and away again, makes it 40 games and keeps 4 old firm games in place to keep the TV companies happy7 and 7 is only 38 games (12 after a split)1 team wouldnt have a game every week after the split (or 2, 1 in each section) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNightInFlorence 696 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Of course it would, there would be 8 games less....Throughout the league though. Away games sell themselves for our fans. It would only be 4 less home games a league season and I think that would see an increase in the demand for season tickets which in turn would hopefully lead to an extension of the capacity of Ibrox sometime down the line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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