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On 19/03/2016 at 9:15 AM, eejay the dj said:

It's all in the eye contact for me .Ally embraces Rodent no 1 like he is a long lost mate .He can always be seeing looking directly at him when giving him hugs  .Whereas wee turd face never looks at him long enough in the eye .It's a fake and Ally being Ally thinks it's great to be liked .Wee Lennie has sadly got Ally's number .All in all .A very disturbing and nauseating thing to see from a guy I once idolised .My Mother would be turning in her grave 

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Got to the top of the body language class. Spot on.

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3 hours ago, Bluepeter9 said:

So basically to get to your £30m you added in all costs - exaggerated to put Ally in a bad light ! No need at all and as I said surprised at you needing to do that. 

No. I only included first team wages. Are you taking the piss Ffs. doh

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10 minutes ago, ZZed said:

McCoist is history can we focus on the future as this Warburton's time now.

unfortunately when mccoist as a rangers legend acts like he is doing, then we will inevitably discuss him and his past, a past which is being soured more and more as time goes on

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3 hours ago, legalbeagle said:

To be honest, this little nostalgia trip of a thread seems to have covered all of the bases now, surely to God we can just move on now that everyone has re-hashed their old opinions and arguments.

Your right - i suspect it'll not be the last :-( 

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13 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

unfortunately when mccoist as a rangers legend acts like he is doing, then we will inevitably discuss him and his past, a past which is being soured more and more as time goes on

Yep - by folk like you ! 

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1 hour ago, ZZed said:

McCoist is history

He is.

From hero to zero in record time. An abject managerial failure who fucked us over and yet people still defend him.

To make it easier, as of now he's dead to me as I can't be fucked with the continual adoration and folk defending / justification of his 'super Ally' status.

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26 minutes ago, Virtuoso said:

He is.

From hero to zero in record time. An abject managerial failure who fucked us over and yet people still defend him.

To make it easier, as of now he's dead to me as I can't be fucked with the continual adoration and folk defending / justifying his 'super Ally' status.

One of the few thimgs In life thats broke my heart mate. An idol in every sense or the work growing up to someone who came close to destroying my first love. I wish details would come forward that could vindicate why everything went so wrong but I fear we will never know.

I wont ever slate him though, I couldn't, but I wont see him in the light he earned as a player. Heartbreaking man

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3 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

notice you dodged my question

did mccoist succeed or fail as rangers manager?

Speaking on a purely statistical level, he won 119, drew 22 and lost 23. Although it's slightly skewed due to the short time (3 years) and the skill level of the opposition. 

On the objective of getting us too the Premiership, he failed in that regard. 

On the objective of moving the team forward, I'd say he failed in that regard too. 

It's also worth noting that not any other Rangers manager was in the position that Ally would've been in. 

Personally, I'd say he could've done more as a manger but I don't think he was cut out for it. The biggest reason for that is because he's always trying to be friendly, everythings a laugh. Now a manager can be pally with the team but they have to still uphold the seat of power. I don't think any of the boys we've got right now would try pelting a ball of Warburtons arse but at the same time as evidenced in photos both Mr Warburton and the players are having a laugh but also getting work done. 

I don't think the question can be black and white like that. He did get us past 2 leagues but when it really came down to it, he didn't deliver. 

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I was very critical of Ally McCoist as a Manager.   I've not modified my view.  Even making some allowance for he Boardroom mess he was having to work around I remain critical of his time as Manager.  

I suppose at some point(s) in time in the near future he will re-enter the public domain and start to talk about his time at Rangers.   I don't think I've ever read or seen any comments from him or any assessment by him of Mark Warburton and the vastly improved Rangers team that plays this season.   He seems to have deliberately - and wisely - stayed out of the way.    Likewise I've never heard or seen anything from MW saying the McCoist had been in contact with him.   I don't recall the media even asking him that question.    Seems there must be a tacit understanding at Rangers (or direction from the Board to McCoist) to stay quiet and stay away from speaking to MW or speaking about Rangers.   Again wise so that the team and MW/DW can get on with the job we need to achieve this season - promotion.

When promotion is won I suppose it's inevitable that the media seek out McCoist (or McCoist seeks out the media) for some words of congratulation.   And maybe perhaps a word of apology to the Support for last season.   Did he actually offer any sort of apology to the Support for what was a disastrous season?  I can't recall him doing so but maybe I missed that.   

One thing seems to be to be more than likely in the near future - and that we hear Ally McCoist speaking about Rangers winning promotion.   I'd also be surprised if King and the Board did not have some sort of non-footballing role in mind for Ally McCoist once we are back in the top flight as a way of looking to draw a more positive line under the managerial failure.

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7 hours ago, D'Artagnan said:

Eejay

 

Got to the top of the body language class. Spot on.

 

 Anyone who has met Ally knows he is a confident and genuine guy, who looks everyone in the eye. 

Many people do not look others in the eye for a myriad of reasons.  Insecurity, fear, detachment, inferiority, narcissism, disinterest, immaturity, psychosis  etc etc. . So you can take your pick on eye contact. They are 2 people who can choose to socialise or not......we all do at work and at play.

  

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It ultimately didn't work out for McCoist as Rangers manager but that doesn't in any way imply that he isn't a great servant of the club and he should be there in some capacity.  John Greig had 5 years as Rangers manager and failed to win a league title while under nothing like the background pressures McCoist was facing but no one suggests he is anything but a Rangers legend to be respected. 

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On 16 March 2016 at 1:42 PM, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said:

In the paper today singing the praises of his wee golfing buddy and what a good job he did at Celtic.  Arsehole.

Bastard.jpg

Honestly though could you as a British Scottish Rangers Supporting Protestant embrace this character to your breast as somebody you could trust with a pint in his hand ? Honestly ! :sherlock:

 

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1 hour ago, Reformation Bear said:

I was very critical of Ally McCoist as a Manager.   I've not modified my view.  Even making some allowance for he Boardroom mess he was having to work around I remain critical of his time as Manager.  

I suppose at some point(s) in time in the near future he will re-enter the public domain and start to talk about his time at Rangers.   I don't think I've ever read or seen any comments from him or any assessment by him of Mark Warburton and the vastly improved Rangers team that plays this season.   He seems to have deliberately - and wisely - stayed out of the way.    Likewise I've never heard or seen anything from MW saying the McCoist had been in contact with him.   I don't recall the media even asking him that question.    Seems there must be a tacit understanding at Rangers (or direction from the Board to McCoist) to stay quiet and stay away from speaking to MW or speaking about Rangers.   Again wise so that the team and MW/DW can get on with the job we need to achieve this season - promotion.

When promotion is won I suppose it's inevitable that the media seek out McCoist (or McCoist seeks out the media) for some words of congratulation.   And maybe perhaps a word of apology to the Support for last season.   Did he actually offer any sort of apology to the Support for what was a disastrous season?  I can't recall him doing so but maybe I missed that.   

One thing seems to be to be more than likely in the near future - and that we hear Ally McCoist speaking about Rangers winning promotion.   I'd also be surprised if King and the Board did not have some sort of non-footballing role in mind for Ally McCoist once we are back in the top flight as a way of looking to draw a more positive line under the managerial failure.

Jobs for the boys you mean ? 

I hope not  . 

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1 hour ago, Reformation Bear said:

I was very critical of Ally McCoist as a Manager.   I've not modified my view.  Even making some allowance for he Boardroom mess he was having to work around I remain critical of his time as Manager.  

I suppose at some point(s) in time in the near future he will re-enter the public domain and start to talk about his time at Rangers.   I don't think I've ever read or seen any comments from him or any assessment by him of Mark Warburton and the vastly improved Rangers team that plays this season.   He seems to have deliberately - and wisely - stayed out of the way.    Likewise I've never heard or seen anything from MW saying the McCoist had been in contact with him.   I don't recall the media even asking him that question.    Seems there must be a tacit understanding at Rangers (or direction from the Board to McCoist) to stay quiet and stay away from speaking to MW or speaking about Rangers.   Again wise so that the team and MW/DW can get on with the job we need to achieve this season - promotion.

When promotion is won I suppose it's inevitable that the media seek out McCoist (or McCoist seeks out the media) for some words of congratulation.   And maybe perhaps a word of apology to the Support for last season.   Did he actually offer any sort of apology to the Support for what was a disastrous season?  I can't recall him doing so but maybe I missed that.   

One thing seems to be to be more than likely in the near future - and that we hear Ally McCoist speaking about Rangers winning promotion.   I'd also be surprised if King and the Board did not have some sort of non-footballing role in mind for Ally McCoist once we are back in the top flight as a way of looking to draw a more positive line under the managerial failure.

Think your in for a surprise if you think Mccoist will have any future role to play at rangers.ive been told that a certain gentleman of standing is totally disgusted by his actions at the end of his contract and contrary to kings statement mccoist is no longer welcome at ibrox.

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6 minutes ago, ronniemca said:

Think your in for a surprise if you think Mccoist will have any future role to play at rangers.ive been told that a certain gentleman of standing is totally disgusted by his actions at the end of his contract and contrary to kings statement mccoist is no longer welcome at ibrox.

Willie Henderson was very critical of ally's actions also he has had a pop at mark hateley and bomber 

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