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On 11/07/2017 at 8:27 PM, Johnny Dangerously said:

Is that Stanley Mathews? I know he played a few games for us during war years, not sure how many exactly tbh

Where's Ozblue when you need him?

Yes it's Stanley Matthews (he wasn't knighted until 1965) and this was against Morton in the 1940-41 season and Rangers won 2-0. He also guested for Airdrie and Morton., so that photo is genuine.

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On 12/07/2017 at 3:26 AM, thedarvelmarvel said:

dont know when this was, billy stevenson was gone before crerrand played??looks more like bertie peacock.....

I will have to disagree with you mate. That's Paddy Crerand alright and that's definitely Willie Stevenson. Stevenson went to Liverpool in 1962 and Crerand went to Manchester United in 1963

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3 hours ago, Ozblue said:

I will have to disagree with you mate. That's Paddy Crerand alright and that's definitely Willie Stevenson. Stevenson went to Liverpool in 1962 and Crerand went to Manchester United in 1963

i remmber billy stevenson sad to see him go ,

but obviously a bit vague about the hoops.

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5 hours ago, thedarvelmarvel said:

i remmber billy stevenson sad to see him go ,

but obviously a bit vague about the hoops.

I was sad when Stevenson departed because he was an excellent player,but when you look at his replacement then it worked out fine. The reason I remember that Crerand went to Manchester United in 1963 was because my next door neighbour was John Clark and Crerand was a frequent visitor until he went to Manchester.

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18 hours ago, Ozblue said:

I was sad when Stevenson departed because he was an excellent player,but when you look at his replacement then it worked out fine. The reason I remember that Crerand went to Manchester United in 1963 was because my next door neighbour was John Clark and Crerand was a frequent visitor until he went to Manchester.

met same john clark in menorca about 10 year ago very quiet person,just about got a helo out him,  the man you talk about  p.c.  played in the n.y.game which we won 3/0 and the big freeze started that weekend stories said that crerand had to be held back at h/t in the dressing room after he was persuaded to go out he promised he had played his last game for them.. i remember that symon tried to fit them bot in j.b at 6  billy at 10 but it did,nt work abundance of talent ,,long sigh.

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11 hours ago, thedarvelmarvel said:

met same john clark in menorca about 10 year ago very quiet person,just about got a helo out him,  the man you talk about  p.c.  played in the n.y.game which we won 3/0 and the big freeze started that weekend stories said that crerand had to be held back at h/t in the dressing room after he was persuaded to go out he promised he had played his last game for them.. i remember that symon tried to fit them bot in j.b at 6  billy at 10 but it did,nt work abundance of talent ,,long sigh.

I presume you're talking about the 4-0 victory in 1963?...Big Harold scored around the 10th minutes off a deflection from Crerand (of all people) that looped over my big mate Frank Haffey. We got the second after Haffey palmed a fierce shot from Ralph Brand and Jimmy Millar was on hand to score from 2 yards (We can thank Crerand for that one also)... The third goal will forever live in my memory because it was scored a couple of minutes later by John Greig who won the ball from a sellic throw-in about 25 yards from goal, played a 1-2 with Brand, got a deflection off Murdoch (I think) and almost burst the net from 10 yards out. Big Harold and Baxter were running riot in the middle of the park and Millar and Brand were terrorising their defence, so it was no surprise that we got another with 10 minutes to go whem Davis made a complete arse of Kennedy who looked like a guy wearing roller skates on ice, pushed the ball to Jimmy Millar, then was kicked away by a defender but ricocheted back to where Davie Wilson was lurking inside the penalty box and he lashed it past Haffey from 6 yards.

I remember getting into a fight when I got back home with my pal who lived across the road because he insisted that Ronnie McKinnon handled the ball inside the penalty box when we were 1-0 up, so they should have got a penalty kick...fucking bollocks; the ball bounced from the hard pitch and hit Ronnie....The scum were giving the referee pelters for it :dance:

 

As to the story about Crerand; I can tell you exactly what happened at half time, because it was told to me by a sellic player who was in that dressing room and was only 2 yards away from Crerand. Sean Fallon (AKA Sligo Tim) was the assistant manager at that time and at half time he gave Paddy Crerand an absolute rocket because he thought Crerand wasn't trying hard enough, so of course Crerand took exception to this. It seems Crerand wanted to tighten up at the back (we were leading 1-0) and wait for a chance on us fucking up, but Fallon being the bombastic cunt that he was; and still is wanted to go all out attack. Crerand basically told Fallon he was a fuckwit and it was on no holds barred. Then the chairman,Bob Kelly walked in and had to stop it and of course took Fallon's side (as was right), so Crerand decided he wasn't going out for the second half, but McGrory the manager forced him to go out.

The upshot was that Sean Fallon was a particular favourite with Robert Kelly and had lots of influence in that club, so Crerand was dropped immediately for all games for a month and then sold to Manchester United. I was also told that Crerand knew nothing about being transferred to Manchester United and that he found out about it when he was going home after being at the chapel and was approached by the doyen of sports reporters of the day; Jim Rodger who asked him about his transfer to Manchester United; which had Crerand stunned because he knew fuck all about it.

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