El Buffalo 120 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 No I don't think they are that good, they are average at the back but dangerous going forward. The problem is from 2nd-12th in our league there is not much in it unfortunately. We have a decent first 11 but are always only a couple of injuries away from a crisis. Genuinely believe we will end comfortably second, especially after watching the sheep match on Thursday. Not making excuses for Pedro but he took over a mess of a squad and he has had 1 transfer window with lots of changes. We clearly need a few more windows to sort out this squad and genuinely compete with celtic. Not sure pedro will get the chance though whether you agree or not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Whilst their football is a lot 'prettier' than most Scottish sides in memory, they're ultimately not all that good. I reckon they'd lose to Advocaat's Rangers, MON's Celtic, Eck's Rangers, and Walter's Rangers 2.0 - despite playing much "better football" than most of those sides. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backup 4,724 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 selik are just at this time the best of a bad lot,we can change that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanjo 26,348 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Are they better than us? unforunate but yes. Are they really that good? no. For all the money they claim to have, they cannot improve and are running on autopilot. I think we are catching up to them slowly but we are still lacking depth and a few first team players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alves70 393 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 14 minutes ago, plumbGER said: Said pretty much this the other week, they cunts have played a blinder here by shafting us down and in turn weakening the rest of Scottish football. Dirty fenian rat tactics. Worst part is the rest of Scottish football are total morons and don't even grasp what's happened. As said above reducing prize money from 2nd to 5th places and increasing it for 1st place was about as blatant attempt to weaken any challenge as you can get. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibroxholm 2,281 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 They are a good team but by no means a great team. Unfortunately, they are brimming with confidence (domestically) at the present time and that exaggerates their ability. Stating the obvious but we need somehow to dent that confidence and put them under some sort of pressure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, Alves70 said: Worst part is the rest of Scottish football are total morons and don't even grasp what's happened. As said above reducing prize money from 2nd to 5th places and increasing it for 1st place was about as blatant attempt to weaken any challenge as you can get. Blinded by hatred of the big bad Rangers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 109,759 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Ibroxholm said: They are a good team but by no means a great team. Unfortunately, they are brimming with confidence (domestically) at the present time and that exaggerates their ability. Stating the obvious but we need somehow to dent that confidence and put them under some sort of pressure. I spoke to a couple of tarriers a few weeks back and they even said to me "if we lose once we will go on to lose 3 or 4/within a few months" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger ranger 922 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 They ripped us apart in the first half and could have scored at least three goals if it wasn't for bad final balls and bad finishing, the argument isn't if they are good or not, they are good enough to see off the rest of Scottish football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 1 hour ago, MVRanger said: Unfortunately, the gap between the teams that was bearly perceptible at the 2016 Scottish Cup Semi Final is now a yawning chasm and becoming wider all the time. This was (in theory) their hardest domestic match of the season yet they won at a canter and hardly broke sweat. They are as far ahead of us as PSG are of them - that is the scale of the challenge that Dave King had better start facing up to. Mr King doesn't need to face up to anything. He knows we will accept shite and keep them tills ringing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob1873 417 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Amac9 said: They are nowhere near the level when we were last winning titles. Our team under Walter would beat this current celtc side right now. It's just we are so poor and the rest of Scottish football has got so bad that they look a lot better than they actually are. They have better player crucially they have a core that know the score the decision to buy Mexican and Portuguese players rather than Walker, McLean, Naismith and Moult (who would have cost less) was plain stupid. Equally to appoint an untried manager with zero knowledge of Scottish football was plain stupid. Look at the cost of the players they buy and look at what we bought. Off course they are better cash makes the difference. Are they world beater no not a chance but they are by far the best of a bad lot. They are to a man dirty scum though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,600 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Depends what you mean by good. By the standards of this league right now, obviously they're a good outfit. Any championship winning Rangers team that I've seen would have wiped the floor with them though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
folkestoneger 8,263 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 41 minutes ago, Creampuff said: Whilst their football is a lot 'prettier' than most Scottish sides in memory, they're ultimately not all that good. I reckon they'd lose to Advocaat's celtic, MON's celtic, Eck's Rangers, and Walter's Rangers 2.0 - despite playing much "better football" than most of those sides. What the fuck has wee Dick done to deserve that slur? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedylan 11,555 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 celtic are a good team in one of the worst professional leagues in Europe.The days of a Scottish team reaching a European final are over.The fact a club like Bournemouth with gates of 10000 have more buying power than us and probably celtic says it all ..Fuck Sky Fuck BT Fuck modern football Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billscott 2,463 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 what i found very noticable today was how much stronger physically and how much fitter they were than us if you think that around 75% of their team today played in the cup semi when we beat them if shows what a good manager can do to improve players make them stronger fitter and tactically more aware i am afraid we will never see that improvement with our current manager Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueballss 2,972 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 no Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueballss 2,972 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 but unfortunately a lot better than us Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 24 minutes ago, folkestoneger said: What the fuck has wee Dick done to deserve that slur? Fixed Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyinroyalblue 16,478 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 1 minute ago, billscott said: what i found very noticable today was how much stronger physically and how much fitter they were than us if you think that around 75% of their team today played in the cup semi when we beat them if shows what a good manager can do to improve players make them stronger fitter and tactically more aware i am afraid we will never see that improvement with our current manager Good post, I would just add to it winning the vast majority of 50-50 balls and second balls has nothing to do with a superior budget but a better understanding of your job and what is expected from you in terms of fight and desire but Pedro just can't seem to translate his passion he shows on the sidelines through to his players on the park. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
folkestoneger 8,263 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Creampuff said: Fixed I should hope so Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregswanson 19 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 15 minutes ago, sandyinroyalblue said: Good post, I would just add to it winning the vast majority of 50-50 balls and second balls has nothing to do with a superior budget but a better understanding of your job and what is expected from you in terms of fight and desire but Pedro just can't seem to translate his passion he shows on the sidelines through to his players on the park. absolutely agree, in the second half they were out running us and looked comfortable and strong; clearly much fitter than our guys; its not good when Pena is on the field a half to one stone overweight Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
centenarystand 2,227 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 4 hours ago, Dougie_B said: you are a fanny for that answer. What in fucks name is thta? they pissed on us today. Ouch peado . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger 8,274 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 We are a poor side. The rest of the league are poor. A decent celtic side are being made to look like world beaters against us and the rest. Due to the nightmare last few years they have us right where they want us and there is no quick fix for us to get back anywhere near the top. Depressing as it is they have Scottish football completely tied up Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
denya 1,661 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 To answer original question, no they are fucking shit and it show everytime they play in European competition how shit they are. Is just teams in Scotland give them too much respect than they deserve. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,778 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 3 hours ago, MVRanger said: Unfortunately, the gap between the teams that was bearly perceptible at the 2016 Scottish Cup Semi Final is now a yawning chasm and becoming wider all the time. This was (in theory) their hardest domestic match of the season yet they won at a canter and hardly broke sweat. They are as far ahead of us as PSG are of them - that is the scale of the challenge that Dave King had better start facing up to. Dont let that semi final fool you, between both our goals we didnt have a single shot on target, we might have had a lot of the ball but we done fuck all with it, the tarriers battered us that day as well, we just had lady luck on our side Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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