Bigdave30 9,144 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 He’s done, could play the odd cameo but not 90+ minutes...contributes nothing other than the odd quality pass and deadball, never worth the wage. we knew this about 2 games after he 1st arrived. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 30,496 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 16 minutes ago, bordersbear said: . Football brain is streets ahead of most players in Scotland Yet he's caught out everytime he tries his cruyff turn in the centre of the park leaving us over run Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the old guard 2,439 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Only thing he has left is an eye for a pass, clearly at the end of his career, pay him off in January imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Just now, Inigo said: How much is he on? Ballpark? Somewhere between 6-10k at most. A conservative guess would be around £6-7k. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluenose88 132 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, cushynumber said: kill me now Hmm... “in fairness, he was a cracking player when the legs done what the brain wanted them to.” Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 33,324 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Just now, The Dude said: Somewhere between 6-10k at most. A conservative guess would be around £6-7k. Makes it a good deal less grim , then. Still an appalling footballer most of the time he plays though, just less expensively so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers#1 5,543 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Should do well for us in the Hong Kong 5s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bluenose88 said: Hmm... “in fairness, he was a cracking player when the legs done what the brain wanted them to.” aye but... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,932 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, Inigo said: All of the midfielders, including him, piss me off. They kept getting the ball in positions where there's space in front of them where if they get the ball and quickly turn there's a space to be driven into. And almost every time they're slow as a week in jail to turn then even if the space is still there they shite it and play an easy ball. The number of times I was thinking 'turn and drive' only for them to knock it backwards after fumbling about with it was fucking driving me mad. Kranjcar, Holt, McCrorie, Barjonas all did it. Sometimes taking shitebag passing options too, instead of a forward, attacking pass. Not even particularly tough attacking passes, I'm talking about either. The midfielders are conservative bordering on the ridiculous at times. Correct, the opposition teams drive at us the whole time sending our defence into panic mode, we seldom do it but when we do chances are created surprisingly enough, that timid shite must be stopped and positivity drummed into them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluenose88 132 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 minute ago, cushynumber said: aye but... ...we can agree he’s absolute crap I think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsden bear 2,376 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, Inigo said: All of the midfielders, including him, piss me off. They kept getting the ball in positions where there's space in front of them where if they get the ball and quickly turn there's a space to be driven into. And almost every time they're slow as a week in jail to turn then even if the space is still there they shite it and play an easy ball. The number of times I was thinking 'turn and drive' only for them to knock it backwards after fumbling about with it was fucking driving me mad. Kranjcar, Holt, McCrorie, Barjonas all did it. Sometimes taking shitebag passing options too, instead of a forward, attacking pass. Not even particularly tough attacking passes, I'm talking about either. The midfielders are conservative bordering on the ridiculous at times. Couldn't agree more We had so many opportunities to burst through the middle but opted for a sideways pass. The most positive direct run came from Danny Wilson not too long before his 'Albertz' style strike. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewaj3 1,472 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I think he is the most technically gifted player in Scottish football. His range of passing and set pieces can be exceptional. However he has no pace and Scottish football is known for giving players no time on the ball. Players constantly harassing the opposition and as he has no pace to get away from them, it means he needs to play a quick pass or he will lose the ball. We can't afford to drop him deeper to give him that time, as he isn't capable of doing the defensive duties so in effect we have a player who ends up having little influence during games unless he manages to conjure up a moment of magic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdave30 9,144 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 22 minutes ago, Inigo said: All of the midfielders, including him, piss me off. They kept getting the ball in positions where there's space in front of them where if they get the ball and quickly turn there's a space to be driven into. And almost every time they're slow as a week in jail to turn then even if the space is still there they shite it and play an easy ball. The number of times I was thinking 'turn and drive' only for them to knock it backwards after fumbling about with it was fucking driving me mad. Kranjcar, Holt, McCrorie, Barjonas all did it. Sometimes taking shitebag passing options too, instead of a forward, attacking pass. Not even particularly tough attacking passes, I'm talking about either. The midfielders are conservative bordering on the ridiculous at times. Aye the standard of midfielder are a big part of our woes at the minute, the most consistent midfielders at Rangers right now are a CB from the youth team and a reject from hearts who cost about the same to buy as Scott Browns moter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lockin 4,018 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Only man in the team that can see a pass but not good enough tonight - worried if he's playing on Saturday Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 17 minutes ago, stewaj3 said: I think he is the most technically gifted player in Scottish football. His range of passing and set pieces can be exceptional. However he has no pace and Scottish football is known for giving players no time on the ball. Players constantly harassing the opposition and as he has no pace to get away from them, it means he needs to play a quick pass or he will lose the ball. We can't afford to drop him deeper to give him that time, as he isn't capable of doing the defensive duties so in effect we have a player who ends up having little influence during games unless he manages to conjure up a moment of magic. actually, i thought his passing tonight apart from one, was very poor. he passes now because he cant run with the ball, so his completion rate is dropping as he tries to make passes he really shouldn't be trying to make. I think we have to come to terms with the fact he is done, finished, Kaput and stop making lame excuses for him. He was truly an excellent player when he was younger. Real class. Its gone now though and its worrying our manager cant see that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace 3,645 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 First 15 minutes thought he was pretty good, then degenerated to the player we known recently. However, in the 2nd half I though he put in a great shift when he normally blows out his arse. He' not the entire solution but he reminds you he can be part of the answer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barasa 802 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Think it was Bobby Robson who said, what kind of football do you want to watch? carlos-valderrama Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camshy 817 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 He was very slow but his distribution was good. He did try and be a little too smart 2 or 3 times and swiftly lost the ball.......if he can recognise his limitations in running with the ball at his feet and simply let the ball do the work then he would have had a very good game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,979 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 If he plays on Saturday he won't get a touch of the ball. Far too slow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie0202 13,011 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Best player on the park by a fucking mile tonight. The only genuine class on display. Yes his legs have gone and there's very much economy on his movement but we all already know this. After a long period of injury and not having played in a long while I thought he did very well. Lasted almost 90 mins too. Edit - Every time he got on the ball he was swarmed by Motherwell players. Obviously singled out as our best player by them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR1979 2,037 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Inigo said: He was terrible for most of the game. Is it 20k or 18k he's on? For that? Terrible value is what he's almost always been. Apart from a decent strike against Partick he has contributed zero an expensive luxury player we should never have signed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRW. 5,631 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 He was finished before he signed, Warburton underestimated this league and thought he would still be capable of strolling it. He strolls about like a da playing fives, but contributes nothing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally62 393 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 He's done, waste of a wage we cannot afford at this time...move him on at the window please.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie0202 13,011 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 @cushynumber Mind you posted there would be less negativity tonight because we won? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 32,052 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Inigo said: He was terrible for most of the game. Is it 20k or 18k he's on? For that? Terrible value is what he's almost always been. 1 hour ago, cushynumber said: absolute gash. Looks like he is running backwards. and please stop with the football brain stuff - if that's the case we should sign fuckin maradona I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought he was terrible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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