C1872 : Statement

[Virtuoso 27,180]

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Club 1872 Statement on UEFA Charges

28 August, 2019

Club 1872 would like to echo the message from Rangers regarding the damaging charges from UEFA both in relation to the St Josephs match at Ibrox and the recent game in Poland against Legia Warsaw.

It is clear that UEFA has taken a decision to class sectarian singing in the same bracket as racism and as a result has a clear and rapidly escalating framework of punishments for any club charged with such offences. This means that we will quickly arrive at the point where Ibrox may be closed for a home European tie if outbreaks of sporadic sectarian singing continue. This will not only effect tens of thousands of our own supporters but also the management team and players, who would have to operate in such circumstances. This is particularly frustrating as the atmosphere generated at European games at Ibrox this season has been largely free of such sectarian songs.

To be absolutely clear, songs, words and terms classed as sectarian by UEFA include ‘The Billy Boys’, any reference to “fenians” or any pejorative terms about Catholics or the Pope. The charges do not relate only to one song but to anything in the brackets above, including add ons to otherwise inoffensive songs.

We share some of the concerns over the lack of transparency, accountability and consistency in the operations of FARE. However, those concerns cannot be properly addressed while we are in a position where FARE can provide UEFA with video evidence of sectarian singing involving even a small number of Rangers supporters, as was the case in Warsaw.

Club 1872 fully supports Rangers’ Everyone Anyone campaign. It is absolutely clear in the discussions that we have had in the past few weeks and months that the club will not tolerate sectarian behaviour. We will continue to work with them to ensure that there is constructive and meaningful engagement with supporters on this issue going forward.

Every single Rangers supporter must now take responsibility for promoting a positive image of our club and support. Ibrox is one of the most impressive arenas in European football when it is full and noisy. We have a host of ways to generate that unique atmosphere without reverting to songs which will see the club sanctioned. Let’s get Ibrox rocking on Thursday night and roar our team into the groups stages of the Europa League.

Issued by Supporters Voice Limited, a Club 1872 company

 

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[GOAT 30,449]

I’ve asked them why they aren’t highlighting the clear agenda by the biased FARE on their Facebook page, haven’t had a reply. 

[MaddistonKnight 1,567]

6 minutes ago, GOAT said:

I’ve asked them why they aren’t highlighting the clear agenda by the biased FARE on their Facebook page, haven’t had a reply. 

Well, we make it too fucking easy for them, don't we.

[GOAT 30,449]

1 minute ago, MaddistonKnight said:

Well, we make it too fucking easy for them, don't we.

By our refusal to fight and highlight their biased ways, oh aye we do. 

[Captain Hilts 12,819]

"Club 1872 would like to echo the message from Rangers"

It was at this point I fucked off.

[OceanRain 2,845]

"To be absolutely clear"

That's absolutely clear, is it?

[MaddistonKnight 1,567]

4 minutes ago, GOAT said:

By our refusal to fight and highlight their biased ways, oh aye we do. 

No, by continuing to sing things that we should know we shouldn't. 

Stop singing the shit, and THEN we can hold them to account.  Cause it ain't gonna happen any other way.

[jintybear 8,536]

Tin hat on but we can’t complain to UEFA about biased behaviour from FARE when we are giving them every reason to hammer us. We need to get smart here and give them nothing. They are out to get us every way they can and we are giving them exactly what they want at every game, even though we know they are there. It’s crazy.  We can’t complain until we stop singing these songs. Do I think they actually offend anybody? No I don’t but they don’t care that nobody is actually offended because they will be getting complaints from hoards of the unwashed and Peter Lawless inside man from FARE.  We need to box clever

[Dickie 12,905]

Could club 1872 give us an update on what action is being taken against Kilmarnock or is it just going to disappear like hibs final or hanging effigies? 

[Dickie 12,905]

2 minutes ago, jintybear said:

Tin hat on but we can’t complain to UEFA about biased behaviour from FARE when we are giving them every reason to hammer us. We need to get smart here and give them nothing. They are out to get us every way they can and we are giving them exactly what they want at every game, even though we know they are there. It’s crazy.  We can’t complain until we stop singing these songs. Do I think they actually offend anybody? No I don’t but they don’t care that nobody is actually offended because they will be getting complaints from hoards of the unwashed and Peter Lawless inside man from FARE.  We need to box clever

We all know it has to stop but given that in the past five or so years the scum have played a hell of a lot more European games than us but have never been reported for sectarian singing then it’s obvious there is an agenda.

[Blue Avenger 22,567]

The message is clear. Change the words. Sorted!

As for the rest of it, sanctimonious shite.

And the ah but apologists can go fuck themselves.

[jintybear 8,536]

2 minutes ago, Dickie said:

We all know it has to stop but given that in the past five or so years the scum have played a hell of a lot more European games than us but have never been reported for sectarian singing then it’s obvious there is an agenda.

I agree but they aren’t doing this to them they are doing it to us and we need to stop giving them the ammunition. I don’t give any fucks about them. I care about us and we, the fans, are damaging our brand. We are classed as racists now 😩

[siddiqi_drinker 14,635]

cannot believe daft cunts gave and still give C1872  hard-earned money  ---- better donating to the bookies

[OnwardsandUpwards 834]

Must have missed the part where our fan group highlighted the clear scapegoating of a section of our fans. A section that adds so much atmosphere and colour to our cause. Is some of the statement missing or are they just a mouthpiece for the blazer brigade? 

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,765]

"...... However, those concerns cannot be properly addressed while we are in a position where FARE can provide UEFA with video evidence of sectarian singing involving even a small number of Rangers supporters, as was the case in Warsaw"

So FARE officials were filming and over the raucous din of home supporters captured a small number of bears singing naughty songs?  Something stinks here cos that sure as hell ain't likely.

I would say I hope the club have examined the existence, authenticity and credibility of all such alleged evidence but I'm likely posting in the wind with that.

[STEPPS BOY 74,032]

3 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

"...... However, those concerns cannot be properly addressed while we are in a position where FARE can provide UEFA with video evidence of sectarian singing involving even a small number of Rangers supporters, as was the case in Warsaw"

So FARE officials were filming and over the raucous din of home supporters captured a small number of bears singing naughty songs?  Something stinks here cos that sure as hell ain't likely.

I would say I hope the club have examined the existence, authenticity and credibility of all such alleged evidence but I'm likely posting in the wind with that.

It was videos from our own fans.

[ForeverAndEver 71,565]

7 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said:

It was videos from our own fans.

 Fucking morons man.

[BareGrills 145]

Good god what mongo wrote that!!!!! 

"It is clear that UEFA has taken a decision to class sectarian singing in the same bracket as racism and as a result has a clear and rapidly escalating framework of punishments for any club charged with such offences."   Lads, "we are fucking sectarians not racists so get a fucking grip" is that is saying.  We are getting thrown about like fuck not and this giddy bunch of blazer grabbers come out with this shite

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,765]

13 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said:

It was videos from our own fans.

Missed that, where's that mentioned?

[Blumhoilann 6,712]

58 minutes ago, jintybear said:

Tin hat on but we can’t complain to UEFA about biased behaviour from FARE when we are giving them every reason to hammer us. We need to get smart here and give them nothing. They are out to get us every way they can and we are giving them exactly what they want at every game, even though we know they are there. It’s crazy.  We can’t complain until we stop singing these songs. Do I think they actually offend anybody? No I don’t but they don’t care that nobody is actually offended because they will be getting complaints from hoards of the unwashed and Peter Lawless inside man from FARE.  We need to box clever

I would like to add to that Jintybear,if any fans see anybody videoing them,get the phone/camera out and do likewise,we need these haters outed.

[Blumhoilann 6,712]

How can FARE use other ppls vids when the cops couldn't use others vids as evidence concerning effigies hanging at the paedodome?

[Blumhoilann 6,712]

1 hour ago, Dickie said:

We all know it has to stop but given that in the past five or so years the scum have played a hell of a lot more European games than us but have never been reported for sectarian singing then it’s obvious there is an agenda.

Bit like the yellow/red card situation mate.

[gj923 1,457]

19 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

Missed that, where's that mentioned?

Don’t know if it was as Legia fans uploaded a video with singing at the end of it which I think was then shared on twitter 

[mitre_mouldmaster 21,509]

15 minutes ago, Blumhoilann said:

How can FARE use other ppls vids when the cops couldn't use others vids as evidence concerning effigies hanging at the paedodome?

Probably because legal cases require a certain standard of proof, where as Uefa can use their discretion.

[Blumhoilann 6,712]

Are you the Dude in disguise ffs.