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[Sweetheart 8,458]

SPFL board to meet as Dundee hold talks over reconstruction & vote

By Brian McLauchlin

BBC Scotland

14 minutes ago From the sectionScottish

The SPFL board plan to meet again later on Wednesday as Dundee continue to discuss their decisive vote on calling an end to the Scottish season. The Championship club said on Tuesday they have had "positive discussions" over league reconstruction. But they failed to clarify if they will back a plan to end the campaign, having retracted their initial 'no' vote.

The SPFL discussed Dundee on Tuesday, as well as Partick Thistle's claim that legal advice rendered the ballot moot. The nine-strong board - which includes Rangers' chief executive Stewart Robertson - also discussed talked about the Ibrox club's call for SPFL chief executive Neil Doncaster and legal adviser Rod McKenzie to be suspended and their call for an independent investigation.

Dundee chief executive John Nelms and the club's major shareholder Tim Keyes have been in regular contact and these are expected to be ongoing. One of the many things that remains unclear is who the Dens Park club have held these "positive discussions" about league reconstruction with. Several prominent Scottish clubs have told BBC Scotland that they have not heard from Dundee.

The SPFL's resolution to call the lower league campaign rests on the Championship club, who are third in the division and say they have their own and Scottish football's interests at heart. It is unclear at this stage what the league reconstruction would look like, but it is a possible solution that has also been backed by Hearts, who sit bottom of the Premiership, and Thistle, who are bottom of the second tier.

SPFL board

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52295484

[raging blue 1972 894]

9 minutes ago, OceanRain said:

 

so it was a vote to declare them champions which would have been ratified today

[Bad Robot 21,513]

4 minutes ago, bluenoz said:

In no way will UEFA let this season to continue into next season. They are grasping at straws now. It is either completed (no chance) or n&v.

I suggested this a while ago that the normal start and finishing dates for this and next seasons are all just moved forward on a sliding scale and I’ve no doubt Uefa could use a similar system which ties in with all the domestic leagues.

[murzo 7,449]

2 hours ago, psb07158 said:

There is absolutely no way they are going to pass a vote for a 16 team league

I'm sure we are opposed to it, celtic are too (though might vote for it if they get a title out of it now) and all the other diddy clubs like Livi, Motherwell etc are opposed to it because they will lose money and have absolutely no reason to vote for it

Aye but they’ll all be offered glamour friendlies as well

[tina-duncan 212]

So here's a radical idea...

Its looking increasingly likely that next season isn't going to start on schedule, never mind this season. Would it not make more sense to scrap next season altogether and when normality eventually resumes again, complete this season's remaining games without having to worry about everything being a rushed mess? Then we just get back to business as usual starting at the 21/22 season.

I admit its not an ideal solution on the money side of things, but from a sporting perspective, this seems like the most pragmatic solution to me...

[magic8ball 27,904]

8 minutes ago, Malkster said:

Any organisation with any sense of moral integrity would say.... you know what? we've made a right arse of this..... let's start again from the beginning with all the cards on the table.

all the options available and proceed in the correct manner to get this debacle sorted once and for all

 

 

 

 

nurse! nurse!

Moral and integrity are words than can never be used to describe our governing bodies ,And most certainly not together unless the word “lacking” is a prefix 

[bluenoz 32,497]

1 minute ago, Bad Robot said:

I suggested this a while ago that the normal start and finishing dates for this and next seasons are all just moved forward on a sliding scale and I’ve no doubt Uefa could use a similar system which ties in with all the domestic leagues.

I can't see it mate. That would mean delaying European competitions until league winners and runners-up are determined. Champions league is UEFA's money chest. Surely a fresh slate is needed. 

[willygers4life 1,031]

2 minutes ago, tina-duncan said:

So here's a radical idea...

Its looking increasingly likely that next season isn't going to start on schedule, never mind this season. Would it not make more sense to scrap next season altogether and when normality eventually resumes again, complete this season's remaining games without having to worry about everything being a rushed mess?

I admit its not an ideal solution on the money side of things, but from a sporting perspective, this seems like the most pragmatic solution to me...

So chuck away a year's worth of income for 8 or so games.

[Jb85 1,786]

2 minutes ago, tina-duncan said:

So here's a radical idea...

Its looking increasingly likely that next season isn't going to start on schedule, never mind this season. Would it not make more sense to scrap next season altogether and when normality eventually resumes again, complete this season's remaining games without having to worry about everything being a rushed mess?

I admit its not an ideal solution on the money side of things, but from a sporting perspective, this seems like the most pragmatic solution to me...

I actually thought why not scrap the champions league and Europa next season as no one has earned the right to play in the competition should leagues start to be declared over with no winners or losers. But then again money talks and there’d be no chance of this happening. 

[AljayBoy 2,354]

Just now, tina-duncan said:

So here's a radical idea...

Its looking increasingly likely that next season isn't going to start on schedule, never mind this season. Would it not make more sense to scrap next season altogether and when normality eventually resumes again, complete this season's remaining games without having to worry about everything being a rushed mess?

I admit its not an ideal solution on the money side of things, but from a sporting perspective, this seems like the most pragmatic solution to me...

That opens up huge questions though, around things like player contracts for example, if there are no games being played there is no income for clubs but the players still have to be paid their wages.

 

Then there's the fact the new TV deal is due to start next season, so how would that work if season 20/21 is just abandoned?

 

These aren't digs but just observations that scrapping next season and playing the remainder of 19/20 when possible just swaps one set of problems for another.

[Hadron Collider 32,400]

20 minutes ago, dougie76 said:

Too far?

Not far enough mate. 

[Bluekev 47,199]

5 minutes ago, bluenoz said:

I can't see it mate. That would mean delaying European competitions until league winners and runners-up are determined. Champions league is UEFA's money chest. Surely a fresh slate is needed. 

And the Euros are next summer now too so they would be affected again if this was to happen.

[Community Note FC 8,831]

Just wrote on my Facebook but thought worth reproducing here;

 

Modern Scotland, land of the "internal investigation".

Fhilth - two year "internal investigation" into historic child abuse after being exposed as lying about not knowing about it that's now in its third year.
SNP - "internal investigation" into allegations of sexual misconduct by their former leader and one of their most powerful members.
SPFL - an organisation riddled with conflicts of interest and beset by circumstantial and anecdotal evidence of corruption announce "internal investigation" into misconduct allegations.

Rheeking 💨

[southcoastbear 1,639]

 

Just me or does this pic make you think of Dungcaster's  interview for the SPFL job.

Longmuir's must have been really dire .

[Junior Soprano 22,428]

28 minutes ago, Bearsden bear said:

Only a suggestion. They will likely be handed the title anyway, at least my idea would stop them this season.

No one would vote for it anyway and tv wouldnt want to pay for a league that may be uncompetitive from the word go.

Fuck off

[magic8ball 27,904]

11 minutes ago, tina-duncan said:

So here's a radical idea...

Its looking increasingly likely that next season isn't going to start on schedule, never mind this season. Would it not make more sense to scrap next season altogether and when normality eventually resumes again, complete this season's remaining games without having to worry about everything being a rushed mess? Then we just get back to business as usual starting at the 21/22 season.

I admit its not an ideal solution on the money side of things, but from a sporting perspective, this seems like the most pragmatic solution to me...

Squads will be very different from the ones that started the season ,There will be clubs in the lower leagues who will be almost completely different 

[HG5 12,257]

25 minutes ago, dougie76 said:

Too far?

Just a touch😳

[bluenoz 32,497]

1 minute ago, Bluekev said:

And the Euros are next summer now too so they would be affected again if this was to happen.

They really aren't thinking this out. In fact, it is bordering on embarrassing. They really are grasping at straws. So desperate to give them a title at any cost.

[magic8ball 27,904]

2 minutes ago, Bluekev said:

And the Euros are next summer now too so they would be affected again if this was to happen.

Possibly ,there are already worries over the olympics being at threat next summer 

[B1872 21,931]

Football across the board needs to come out and give us a definitive answer of what is going on. The season needs written off and start a fresh from August/September onwards.

UEFA need contingency plans in place for one season only. I like the idea of having a seeded knockout tournament instead of the league groups. Reckon it would be something different and a bit more exciting than the usual pish.

[Jimfanciesthedude 25,617]

15 minutes ago, tina-duncan said:

So here's a radical idea...

Its looking increasingly likely that next season isn't going to start on schedule, never mind this season. Would it not make more sense to scrap next season altogether and when normality eventually resumes again, complete this season's remaining games without having to worry about everything being a rushed mess? Then we just get back to business as usual starting at the 21/22 season.

I admit its not an ideal solution on the money side of things, but from a sporting perspective, this seems like the most pragmatic solution to me...

Clubs cant survive a month with no income let alone a year with no ST or tv money or anything 

[Dave Hedgehog 10,673]

15 minutes ago, tina-duncan said:

So here's a radical idea...

Its looking increasingly likely that next season isn't going to start on schedule, never mind this season. Would it not make more sense to scrap next season altogether and when normality eventually resumes again, complete this season's remaining games without having to worry about everything being a rushed mess? Then we just get back to business as usual starting at the 21/22 season.

I admit its not an ideal solution on the money side of things, but from a sporting perspective, this seems like the most pragmatic solution to me...

Not a chance.

Scrap this season. 

If need be next season scrap the league cup and play league games on those dates.

This season is finished.

[magic8ball 27,904]

Just now, B1872 said:

Football across the board needs to come out and give us a definitive answer of what is going on. The season needs written off and start a fresh from August/September onwards.

UEFA need contingency plans in place for one season only. I like the idea of having a seeded knockout tournament instead of the league groups. Reckon it would be something different and a bit more exciting than the usual pish.

The problem could be a knockout tournament from the start could be far more interesting 😁 making further traditional group style tournaments stale 

But it’s looking like it’s going to have to be that way ,Starting later in the year than the groups already start 

[HG5 12,257]

20 minutes ago, Sweetheart said:

SPFL board to meet as Dundee hold talks over reconstruction & vote

By Brian McLauchlin

BBC Scotland

14 minutes ago From the sectionScottish

The SPFL board plan to meet again later on Wednesday as Dundee continue to discuss their decisive vote on calling an end to the Scottish season. The Championship club said on Tuesday they have had "positive discussions" over league reconstruction. But they failed to clarify if they will back a plan to end the campaign, having retracted their initial 'no' vote.

The SPFL discussed Dundee on Tuesday, as well as Partick Thistle's claim that legal advice rendered the ballot moot. The nine-strong board - which includes Rangers' chief executive Stewart Robertson - also discussed talked about the Ibrox club's call for SPFL chief executive Neil Doncaster and legal adviser Rod McKenzie to be suspended and their call for an independent investigation.

Dundee chief executive John Nelms and the club's major shareholder Tim Keyes have been in regular contact and these are expected to be ongoing. One of the many things that remains unclear is who the Dens Park club have held these "positive discussions" about league reconstruction with. Several prominent Scottish clubs have told BBC Scotland that they have not heard from Dundee.

The SPFL's resolution to call the lower league campaign rests on the Championship club, who are third in the division and say they have their own and Scottish football's interests at heart. It is unclear at this stage what the league reconstruction would look like, but it is a possible solution that has also been backed by Hearts, who sit bottom of the Premiership, and Thistle, who are bottom of the second tier.

SPFL board

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52295484

I bet Stewart’s drinking his coffee on his own!

[Sweetheart 8,458]

2 minutes ago, B1872 said:

Football across the board needs to come out and give us a definitive answer of what is going on. The season needs written off and start a fresh from August/September onwards.

UEFA need contingency plans in place for one season only. I like the idea of having a seeded knockout tournament instead of the league groups. Reckon it would be something different and a bit more exciting than the usual pish.

They can sort out all the ins and outs later. What's important now is that the smaller clubs get their SPFL money before they go to the wall.