KingKirk 25,643 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, Laudrup1984 said: The panic is reeking from them. Give them nothing Rangers its there move next Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canabear 4,558 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Dickie1963 said: If we wait they will finish the season and hand the money out. Don't panic let the liars panic , which seems to be the case here i may add. I , for one anyway , think the Club are in full control of this situation and know exactly what is at stake and they know exactly what they doing here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sRcFoCt 7,662 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, OceanRain said: Don't give them the traffic: SPFL chairman Murdoch MacLennan’s letter in full Dear All, I am writing to you all to correct significant misinformation appearing in the media. This misinformation is damaging to Scottish football as a whole – and to each and every member club of the SPFL. Several suggestions have been made in recent days about the treatment of a resolution requisition by Rangers FC, about fee payments to clubs, and about the votes cast by Ladbrokes Championship clubs. This letter is intended to set the record straight. It has been suggested that the Board rushed to get a resolution out to members. In fact, the dates and times of a number of recent SPFL Board meetings were delayed specifically to ensure that one director had the time that he needed to be able to reach a decision. The SPFL Board spent around an hour discussing in great detail the resolution requisitioned by Rangers. Only then did the Board, based on clear and unequivocal advice from a QC, determine that the resolution was not effective. The Rangers director on the Board confirmed that he was content with the time given over to that discussion. He was also offered the opportunity of the SPFL’s legal counsel Rod McKenzie working with Rangers’ Company Secretary on a resolution that might be effective. To date, no further requisition has come forward from Rangers or from any other SPFL member. It has been suggested that it is open to the SPFL Board to distribute end-of-season fee payments to clubs now, in the absence of league placings being finalised. That is simply not the case. For the Board to be able to authorise end-of-season fee payments to clubs (amounting to £9.3million gross), final league placings must be determined. Those who have suggested that the SPFL may make such payments, without a line being drawn under Season 2019/20, are wrong. Further, it has been suggested that all Ladbrokes Championship club votes were cast on Friday night. One Ladbrokes Championship club attempted to submit a voting slip, which did not reach the SPFL until late that evening. Earlier, at 6pm on Friday, that club had confirmed in writing to the SPFL that any attempted vote from that club should not be considered as cast. We have had a number of conversations with the chairman of that club over the weekend, in which he reiterated that his club had not yet voted on the SPFL resolution. The SPFL has proceeded on the basis of the unequivocal instruction from that club received at 6pm on Friday. At the time of writing, 40 of our 42 clubs have voted, with one Ladbrokes Championship club and one Ladbrokes League 1 / League 2 club yet to cast a vote on the SPFL resolution. They have the remainder of the 28-day period to do so, should they wish. The current level of support for the Board resolution is 85% of clubs in favour. I have seen allegations made by the Rangers FC Interim Chairman Douglas Park, in a statement issued by Rangers at 3pm on Saturday, about the SPFL, its corporate governance, its culture, its office-bearers and its business operations. I wrote to Mr Park on Saturday evening, requesting any material to support these allegations. I regret to inform you that, at the time of writing, I have received nothing from Mr Park. It is difficult to understand why Mr Park should not wish to share this alleged material with me. I am entirely satisfied, based on all the information at my disposal, that the SPFL and its executives and legal advisers have acted wholly properly at every stage in this process. Should any member club have evidence to the contrary they should bring it to me – indeed, I would argue they have a duty to do so – and I will deal with it in an entirely even-handed way. To do otherwise is harmful to the standing, performance and effective operation of the SPFL and runs counter to the wider interests of our game. Yours sincerely, Murdoch MacLennan, Chairman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Rino 1,215 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, Blumhoilann said: Panic mode 😉 The statement from Maclennan yesterday said the would be writing to member clubs during the week, that was a quick holiday weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumhoilann 6,712 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, Laudrup1984 said: It's hilarious 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoGeo7 10,515 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Quote I have received nothing from Mr Park. It is difficult to understand why Mr Park should not wish to share this alleged material with me. Maybe because you are a filthy, corrupt piece of shit who in on the scums payroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,643 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Brian Fantana said: Dundee said “do not take our vote as cast” the SPFL will just say that meant that they were awaiting the vote within the 28 days. we need to release something soon. We really don't we've got that mob running. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryMc 2,394 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 So Dundee submit a no vote, it conveniently disappears, something happens behind the scenes, they change their mind and ask their vote to be disregarded then their vote arrives but is no longer valid? Our evidence better be top notch as we need to clear this whole corrupt regime ruining our game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,496 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Rangers will probably get charged with bringing the game into disrepute tomorrow for not handing any evidence over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amato 3,016 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, Laudrup1984 said: 😂☺️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,722 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, Laudrup1984 said: This may be our smoking gun. Companies Act states you cant revoke a submitted vote which you've cast. Theres nothing in the Act I can see saying you can void it before or after submission and received. Once subnitted you cannot revoke, its black and white. They've confirmed it was submitted and (later) received. I think they've fucked it up in writing here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,113 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Blue Rino said: The statement from Maclennan yesterday said the would be writing to member clubs during the week, that was a quick holiday weekend. Time flies when you’ve got fuck all to do....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,722 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, ger4life_1872 said: Rangers will probably get charged with bringing the game into disrepute tomorrow for not handing any evidence over Imo we can and will be charges and fined for what we've said about the Board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanRain 2,845 Posted April 12, 2020 Author Share Posted April 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, GaryMc said: So Dundee submit a no vote, it conveniently disappears, something happens behind the scenes, they change their mind and ask their vote to be disregarded then their vote arrives but is no longer valid? Our evidence better be top notch as we need to clear this whole corrupt regime ruining our game. Even after everything I 've read over this weekend, I cannot believe they are expecting anyone, anyone at all, to buy that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,836 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 This farcical last few days will be made to look even more ridiculous when UEFA declare all leagues null & void on Tuesday. And if they continue against those wishes, which they will, Scotland will be seen as the bitter nation it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterC 12,270 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, OceanRain said: Don't give them the traffic: SPFL chairman Murdoch MacLennan’s letter in full Dear All, I am writing to you all to correct significant misinformation appearing in the media. This misinformation is damaging to Scottish football as a whole – and to each and every member club of the SPFL. Several suggestions have been made in recent days about the treatment of a resolution requisition by Rangers FC, about fee payments to clubs, and about the votes cast by Ladbrokes Championship clubs. This letter is intended to set the record straight. It has been suggested that the Board rushed to get a resolution out to members. In fact, the dates and times of a number of recent SPFL Board meetings were delayed specifically to ensure that one director had the time that he needed to be able to reach a decision. The SPFL Board spent around an hour discussing in great detail the resolution requisitioned by Rangers. Only then did the Board, based on clear and unequivocal advice from a QC, determine that the resolution was not effective. The Rangers director on the Board confirmed that he was content with the time given over to that discussion. He was also offered the opportunity of the SPFL’s legal counsel Rod McKenzie working with Rangers’ Company Secretary on a resolution that might be effective. To date, no further requisition has come forward from Rangers or from any other SPFL member. It has been suggested that it is open to the SPFL Board to distribute end-of-season fee payments to clubs now, in the absence of league placings being finalised. That is simply not the case. For the Board to be able to authorise end-of-season fee payments to clubs (amounting to £9.3million gross), final league placings must be determined. Those who have suggested that the SPFL may make such payments, without a line being drawn under Season 2019/20, are wrong. Further, it has been suggested that all Ladbrokes Championship club votes were cast on Friday night. One Ladbrokes Championship club attempted to submit a voting slip, which did not reach the SPFL until late that evening. Earlier, at 6pm on Friday, that club had confirmed in writing to the SPFL that any attempted vote from that club should not be considered as cast. We have had a number of conversations with the chairman of that club over the weekend, in which he reiterated that his club had not yet voted on the SPFL resolution. The SPFL has proceeded on the basis of the unequivocal instruction from that club received at 6pm on Friday. At the time of writing, 40 of our 42 clubs have voted, with one Ladbrokes Championship club and one Ladbrokes League 1 / League 2 club yet to cast a vote on the SPFL resolution. They have the remainder of the 28-day period to do so, should they wish. The current level of support for the Board resolution is 85% of clubs in favour. I have seen allegations made by the Rangers FC Interim Chairman Douglas Park, in a statement issued by Rangers at 3pm on Saturday, about the SPFL, its corporate governance, its culture, its office-bearers and its business operations. I wrote to Mr Park on Saturday evening, requesting any material to support these allegations. I regret to inform you that, at the time of writing, I have received nothing from Mr Park. It is difficult to understand why Mr Park should not wish to share this alleged material with me. I am entirely satisfied, based on all the information at my disposal, that the SPFL and its executives and legal advisers have acted wholly properly at every stage in this process. Should any member club have evidence to the contrary they should bring it to me – indeed, I would argue they have a duty to do so – and I will deal with it in an entirely even-handed way. To do otherwise is harmful to the standing, performance and effective operation of the SPFL and runs counter to the wider interests of our game. Yours sincerely, Murdoch MacLennan, Chairman I think the nickname Private Eye bestowed on him, Shifty McGlifty is very apt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoGeo7 10,515 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, ger4life_1872 said: Rangers will probably get charged with bringing the game into disrepute tomorrow for not handing any evidence over Spfl: Hand over the evidence Rangers: Hand over copies of the evidence Spfl: No, the original with no copies made. Rangers: Hand it over. Spfl: Oops, we’ve misplaced it....oh well, have this hefty fine instead. we are doing the right thing, make them sweat it out a bit and make bigger tits of themselves. They are calling our bluff on this and if we have the evidence not only are they going to look stupid but more importantly corrupt to the very core with nowhere to hide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 42,721 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, OceanRain said: Don't give them the traffic: SPFL chairman Murdoch MacLennan’s letter in full Dear All, I am writing to you all to correct significant misinformation appearing in the media. This misinformation is damaging to Scottish football as a whole – and to each and every member club of the SPFL. Several suggestions have been made in recent days about the treatment of a resolution requisition by Rangers FC, about fee payments to clubs, and about the votes cast by Ladbrokes Championship clubs. This letter is intended to set the record straight. It has been suggested that the Board rushed to get a resolution out to members. In fact, the dates and times of a number of recent SPFL Board meetings were delayed specifically to ensure that one director had the time that he needed to be able to reach a decision. The SPFL Board spent around an hour discussing in great detail the resolution requisitioned by Rangers. Only then did the Board, based on clear and unequivocal advice from a QC, determine that the resolution was not effective. The Rangers director on the Board confirmed that he was content with the time given over to that discussion. He was also offered the opportunity of the SPFL’s legal counsel Rod McKenzie working with Rangers’ Company Secretary on a resolution that might be effective. To date, no further requisition has come forward from Rangers or from any other SPFL member. It has been suggested that it is open to the SPFL Board to distribute end-of-season fee payments to clubs now, in the absence of league placings being finalised. That is simply not the case. For the Board to be able to authorise end-of-season fee payments to clubs (amounting to £9.3million gross), final league placings must be determined. Those who have suggested that the SPFL may make such payments, without a line being drawn under Season 2019/20, are wrong. Further, it has been suggested that all Ladbrokes Championship club votes were cast on Friday night. One Ladbrokes Championship club attempted to submit a voting slip, which did not reach the SPFL until late that evening. Earlier, at 6pm on Friday, that club had confirmed in writing to the SPFL that any attempted vote from that club should not be considered as cast. We have had a number of conversations with the chairman of that club over the weekend, in which he reiterated that his club had not yet voted on the SPFL resolution. The SPFL has proceeded on the basis of the unequivocal instruction from that club received at 6pm on Friday. At the time of writing, 40 of our 42 clubs have voted, with one Ladbrokes Championship club and one Ladbrokes League 1 / League 2 club yet to cast a vote on the SPFL resolution. They have the remainder of the 28-day period to do so, should they wish. The current level of support for the Board resolution is 85% of clubs in favour. I have seen allegations made by the Rangers FC Interim Chairman Douglas Park, in a statement issued by Rangers at 3pm on Saturday, about the SPFL, its corporate governance, its culture, its office-bearers and its business operations. I wrote to Mr Park on Saturday evening, requesting any material to support these allegations. I regret to inform you that, at the time of writing, I have received nothing from Mr Park. It is difficult to understand why Mr Park should not wish to share this alleged material with me. I am entirely satisfied, based on all the information at my disposal, that the SPFL and its executives and legal advisers have acted wholly properly at every stage in this process. Should any member club have evidence to the contrary they should bring it to me – indeed, I would argue they have a duty to do so – and I will deal with it in an entirely even-handed way. To do otherwise is harmful to the standing, performance and effective operation of the SPFL and runs counter to the wider interests of our game. Yours sincerely, Murdoch MacLennan, Chairman Sorry but any evidence you have must be handed to me...... I will deal with it...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, HG5 said: Time flies when you’ve got fuck all to do....... And shitting yourself 😄😄 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robmc1 4,741 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, NeoGeo7 said: Maybe because you are a filthy, corrupt piece of shit who in on the scums payroll. Just about sums up the circumstances in a curt and forthright manner👍... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,643 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Statement after statement from spfl yet no announcement of the results yet😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁 almost two days later it's like they've forgot about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie1963 2,352 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, NeoGeo7 said: Spfl: Hand over the evidence Rangers: Hand over copies of the evidence Spfl: No, the original with no copies made. Rangers: Hand it over. Spfl: Oops, we’ve misplaced it....oh well, have this hefty fine instead. we are doing the right thing, make them sweat it out a bit and make bigger tits of themselves. They are calling our bluff on this and if we have the evidence not only are they going to look stupid but more importantly corrupt to the very core with nowhere to hide. What if teams go bust in the meantime. Even after what we went through dont want that to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tina-duncan 212 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Just now, esquire8 said: Sorry but any evidence you have must be handed to me...... I will deal with it...... But if there's no evidence (because there's been no wrongdoing don't you know!) why say something like that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoydsFavouriteDonut 230 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Come back to what I said earlier. The time of delivery is when it reached the SPFL server, not the time they released it from the quarantine system (if you buy that). There’s an extract from the SPFL rules on the twitter - think they are arguing that a no vote can be reversed but a yes vote can’t, which seems perverse and is highly debatable. While thing stinks. I seriously hope we have something solid here - more than just Dundee voted. We need something in the backroom horsetrading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tina-duncan 212 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Just now, Dickie1963 said: What if teams go bust in the meantime. Even after what we went through dont want that to happen. Then thats their fault for being corrupt bastards, not ours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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