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11 minutes ago, magic8ball said:

What Mo Johnson story did he reveal ,if it was the transfer to us that’s unlikely ,he was still at school then ,he was the year below me and I had only left school a couple of months when Mo Jo signed 

Question is though, did you bully him?

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29 minutes ago, eskbankloyal said:

They’re not desperate to avoid an independent investigation as they already know the votes aren’t there to pass the EGM resolution on Tuesday. 

Which begs the question why the need for this PR offensive from Doncaster.

What’s the theme tune at the end of the Italian Job again? 

Of course they are .That is just stupid or pedantic to say otherwise .They are desperate that doesn’t go against them .Which ever that way is .The vote on Tuesday or any subsequent pressure 

 

 

 

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32 minutes ago, magic8ball said:

He’s a jump the dyke cock sucker ,and only does what just the dyke cock suckers do 

jump back over the dyke and suck cock 

he will be back lunching with Paul Murray as soon as the bistros open again 

PC quote of the week 😂

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1 hour ago, eskbankloyal said:

Incredible 😂😂😂

The lengths Doncaster is going to to save his job. Now blaming the clubs and saying they have too much control. 

As for Jackson... made his name in journalism breaking the Mo Johnston story. Now resorts to ticking the very few people who continue to speak to him who’ll ultimately chuck him like a used johnny when they’ve got what they need. 

A worthless cuck.

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Keith, investigate why they didn't leave the kids alone.

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Logged back in to see if anything new had happened since the ICT statement but apart from twitter stuff nothing of any substance. 

Mind you tomorrow will be of interest.

Votes I would say we are sure of 

Rangers

Hearts

Stranraer

Falkirk

ICT

Likely votes

sheep 

stenhousemuir

Votes for the No camp can be sure of

Raith Rovers

Dundee Und

scum

the board members bar us

That leaves

42 - 5 -2 - 11 = 24 clubs that could go either way.

 

No danger, as has been said along, that we win this on Tuesday but our board knew this going in and I sure they expect and are ready for the next step. Unless some current board members have a change of heart.

Frankly, many clubs, will upset their support by voting No. We appear to have won the PR battle.

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13 minutes ago, GersInCanada said:

Logged back in to see if anything new had happened since the ICT statement but apart from twitter stuff nothing of any substance. 

Mind you tomorrow will be of interest.

Votes I would say we are sure of 

Rangers

Hearts

Stranraer

Falkirk

ICT

Likely votes

sheep 

stenhousemuir

Votes for the No camp can be sure of

Raith Rovers

Dundee Und

scum

the board members bar us

That leaves

42 - 5 -2 - 11 = 24 clubs that could go either way.

 

No danger, as has been said along, that we win this on Tuesday but our board knew this going in and I sure they expect and are ready for the next step. Unless some current board members have a change of heart.

Frankly, many clubs, will upset their support by voting No. We appear to have won the PR battle.

I somehow doubt Dundee are going to want an investigation.

We aren’t going to get the votes, but we need a Hibs, Aberdeen type to back the inquiry for some respectability, at least to the rest of Scotttish football who are blinded by hatred.

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54 minutes ago, GersInCanada said:

Logged back in to see if anything new had happened since the ICT statement but apart from twitter stuff nothing of any substance. 

Mind you tomorrow will be of interest.

Votes I would say we are sure of 

Rangers

Hearts

Stranraer

Falkirk

ICT

Likely votes

sheep 

stenhousemuir

Votes for the No camp can be sure of

Raith Rovers

Dundee Und

scum

the board members bar us

That leaves

42 - 5 -2 - 11 = 24 clubs that could go either way.

 

No danger, as has been said along, that we win this on Tuesday but our board knew this going in and I sure they expect and are ready for the next step. Unless some current board members have a change of heart.

Frankly, many clubs, will upset their support by voting No. We appear to have won the PR battle.

Do we not need a huge number of clubs in the top flight to back the motion or it fails regardless of how others vote mate? I'm genuinely no sure, I'm wondering.

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2 hours ago, HG5 said:

Our OWN dossier proves WE threatened HIM?????

I’ve not read every word on this subject ( & the print goes out of focus when I try to expand) but what I have seen suggests we haven’t made such a blunder.

So how the fuck can you come out with a line like that?????

Please read my post. I’m saying they stole my headline...

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53 minutes ago, British_Empire said:

Do we not need a huge number of clubs in the top flight to back the motion or it fails regardless of how others vote mate? I'm genuinely no sure, I'm wondering.

Apparently 75% of Premiership, 75% of Championship, and  75 % of league 1 + 2 (1 block). If any of those is less than 75% it fails (at least that is my understanding )

It won’t pass. Not a chance in hell.

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5 minutes ago, BlueThunder said:

Apparently 75% of Premiership, 75% of Championship, and  75 % of league 1 + 2 (1 block). If any of those is less than 75% it fails (at least that is my understanding )

It won’t pass. Not a chance in hell.

That's what I thought but didn't wanna make a pure cunt of myself saying so wanted to ask.

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Yep, don't think we need to focus on it passing. This is just about exposing and eventually humiliating the SPFL. 

Not that I sympathise with them, but im sure some of us have at one point fucked up and rather than fess up we deny everything and dig a bigger hole. 

I'm getting that feeling from them, and wouldn't surprise me to see resignations soon. 

 

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8 hours ago, Redemption80 said:

Yep, don't think we need to focus on it passing. This is just about exposing and eventually humiliating the SPFL. 

Not that I sympathise with them, but im sure some of us have at one point fucked up and rather than fess up we deny everything and dig a bigger hole. 

I'm getting that feeling from themthem, and wouldn't surprise me to see resignations soon. 

 

Humiliating the Spfl,we've all made mistakes,ok lets get in a huddle  and say sorry  for upsetting yous cunts for telling the truth. 

The lot of them  need to go , no excuses ,it wisnae me, they have  been found out for the lying  cheating  cunts that they are. 

Every cunt on that board  is under the thumb of the jap same with the SFA,Saw fuck all  ,Say fuck all and finally Sweep it fuckin away.

Open your eyes ,there is none so blind that they cant see, a fifty year cover up if not longer involving them  in the systemic abuse  of children , a whitewash investigation , changing  the rules to alleviate the damage .Yes a bit like their countless internal inquiries,  that surprise  surprise  exonerates  them from all  wrong.

15 names given to plod ,less than half convicted,  defence ,it wisnae  me I am an old man and i cannae remember, bullshit.

The jap is there, right in the bullseye signing off cheques to the trophy centre ,plastic trophies for plastic paddies. 

The only way out of this shit is the removal  of bheast  fc and their lackies.

Kick them Out. 

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1 hour ago, eejay the dj said:

Thankfully our club are aware and have full intentions to take this further 

I’ve often wondered over the last few years...

‘Do the hierarchy of the club actually see (as plain as day) what appears to be happening here in Scottish football? Do they see the same bias reporting of MSM on about all things Rangers? Do they see the orchestrated demonisation of the fans and club by the usual suspects? Do they see the same pattern in refereeing disparity and compliance officers appointments and decisions? Do they see the biggest abuse cover up in world sport happening right under their noses whilst we still get hounded for using a ‘legal’ and reported tax avoidance scheme?

Im not sure if it’s just a case of board personnel, or as an institution maybe not being in a strong enough position to do anything about it, or even biding our time until picking a battle we had a realistic chance of coming out on top.

However, after listening to DP’s Q & A and watching John Bennett’s Interview the other day I came to the conclusion that they see exactly what’s been going on and it was refreshing to hear what he had to say in the plain straight talking language he used. Even, as predicted, if we don’t win the EGM vote I think like yourself this is just the start of looking to effect real changes and hold the farce of the incumbent leadership to account...

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So celtic, Hamilton, Motherwell and Livingston will all say no to an independent investigation that they don’t have to pay for. That reeks. I can understand celtic because their puppet master is pulling the strings but why the others? I actually hate this country. It should be a vote of over 50% of all clubs and that should be it. 

I agree with @eejay the dj they are shitting this investigation because there is clearly wrongdoings going on.

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13 minutes ago, jintybear said:

So celtic, Hamilton, Motherwell and Livingston will all say no to an independent investigation that they don’t have to pay for. That reeks. I can understand celtic because their puppet master is pulling the strings but why the others? I actually hate this country. It should be a vote of over 50% of all clubs and that should be it. 

I agree with @eejay the dj they are shitting this investigation because there is clearly wrongdoings going on.

50% Doncaster resigns the next day imo. 
 

I reckon we will get 35% backing. 

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14 minutes ago, jintybear said:

So celtic, Hamilton, Motherwell and Livingston will all say no to an independent investigation that they don’t have to pay for. That reeks. I can understand celtic because their puppet master is pulling the strings but why the others? I actually hate this country. It should be a vote of over 50% of all clubs and that should be it. 

I agree with @eejay the dj they are shitting this investigation because there is clearly wrongdoings going on.

There's nothing wrong with the country that cannot be changed by the PUL community at the ballot box.
However, it will take a concerted effort at both the local council and MSP levels to shake off the apathy of the PUL community.
Real leaders need to emerge soon to see a difference in 10-20 years and wrest back control from the republicans. It can happen. Look how energized the Ranger's support have become with a more aggressive and vocal board at Ibrox leading the way..

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Change of tact again today.  Scaremongering - Rangers can't back up claims, Moth balling the three lower leagues, ripping up the league’s own rule book and articles - and hand the whole shooting match over to the executive.

 

The fundamental Rangers flaw and why the SPFL must be razed to the ground - Keith Jackson

It's time for a root and branch reordering of how Scottish football is governed. Eventually Scottish football will get around to the business of attempting to save itself from the catastrophic consequences of Covid-19. Hopefully not before it’s too late but most definitely not quite yet. 

Bayonets have been fixed and shots will be fired again tomorrow when all 42 of our clubs go the ballot box to vote on a proposal to have a QC pull up the drains on Hampden’s sixth floor to get to the bottom of what is causing this nauseous stink. That Rangers have now given an undertaking to fully fund any independent probe - having demanded it in the first place - is a possible game changer even if their chances of hitting the numbers required look slim. It certainly underlines the depth of their concern over the governance of the SPFL and suggests too that this whole rammy really is about something more than just stopping celtic from being awarded with a ninth successive league crown without actually winning it on the pitch.  All of which might persuade others to step forward and place a tick in the box safe in the knowledge that they won’t have to shoulder the cost at a time when they can least afford it. 

The problem for Rangers, however, remains one of credibility where this huge raft of Ibrox accusations are concerned.  Yes, they have made a lot of noise and jabbed a great deal of accusing fingers in the direction of SPFL chief executive Neil Doncaster and legal counsel Rod McKenzie - but the fatal flaw in all of it is an abject failure to back it all up. 

They now insist they never claimed to be carrying a smoking gun in the first place but if that is the case then on what basis did they make their call for the suspensions of Doncaster and McKenzie? 

If they never had the necessary proof in their possession then why on earth does interim chairman Douglas Park now feel so bitterly aggrieved that both men weren’t escorted off the premises on what was nothing more substantial than his own club’s whispering innuendo? 

Did he expect them to be dragged over the coals on his say so and without any hint of evidence?

Would he run Rangers in such a manner or, for that matter, would he suspend a sales executive at one of his own car showrooms on the say so of an unhappy customer? 

That’s fundamentally why Rangers will struggle to win the hearts and minds of 75 per cent of the other clubs, even if Park is prepared to stick his hand in his pocket to cover the costs involved for the greater good. But if they are able to bring a substantial number of clubs along with them - and they already have allies in the likes of Hearts, Stranraer, Partick Thistle and Inverness Caley Thistle - then they can still make life difficult for Doncaster and the SPFL as a whole. Let’s say, for example, somewhere between 40 to 50 per cent of clubs all call for an independent probe. That might not enough to carry the vote but if half the clubs in the country felt the league’s governing body needed to be put on trial, it would be nearly impossible for Doncaster or anyone else for that matter to simply ignore. 

But there is another glaring problem in all of this. In order for Scottish football to be whipped into some semblance of proper shape, the SPFL should most probably be razed to the ground and entirely rebuilt. It should be led by a board comprised of completely independent first-in-class professionals and a chief executive who has the power to implement radical change as and when he or she sees fit for the good of the game.  That’s not what Doncaster is employed to do. His job is not to enforce his will upon clubs but, instead, to facilitate the wishes and instructions of all 42 members. The only way that can ever change is if those member clubs were suddenly willing to give up their power - ripping up the league’s own rule book and articles - and hand the whole shooting match over to the executive.  Or, in other words, sacrifice their own self interest in the name of the greater good.

It’s a fanciful notion which will never come to pass.  So Doncaster will plod on in charge of this rabble and offer himself up every now and then like the human pinata his position demands. Like Sunday, for example, when he conducted a series of interviews in an attempt to clear up the wreckage of another angry weekend and clear the decks for the chaos that will inevitably arrive, one way or another, after the dust has settled on Tuesday’s EGM. 

If indeed Rangers do fail to garner enough votes - nine from the top flight, eight from the Championship and 15 from across League One and League Two - then Doncaster will get back to focusing on how the game in this country exits from the other side of this pandemic. How it goes about pulling its boots back on. And what shape its in by then. It’s no wonder, for example, that six Premiership clubs chose to crash the reconstruction talks on Friday given that they have no way of knowing at this stage what on earth they’ll have left to reconstruct whenever football is ready to be re-started.

Where is the logic in re-jigging 42 clubs at this precise moment when there’s every chance we won’t have 42 clubs left standing by the time we’re made it through to the other side? That was always going to represent an obvious flaw in the SPFL proposal to bring reconstruction back out of cold storage. But it’s not the only reason the world of Scottish football now appears to be falling in on itself. Again, there are key questions to address. Now that fate of Hearts appears to have been sealed is there any real prospect of them playing football at all in a Championship which is unlikely to proceed until such time as supporters are filing back through the turnstiles?  Isn’t it more likely that all three lower leagues will effectively have to be frozen and mothballed for the foreseeable even if the top flight clubs are able to sustain themselves and play on for as long as is required behind closed doors?  And how long would that last before some of them begin falling over a financial cliff edge? These are the questions that we’ll get around to one day. Just not tomorrow. https://www.BOYCOTT THIS LINK/sport/football/football-news/fundamental-Rangers-flaw-spfl-must-22005130

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32 minutes ago, Robmc1 said:

I’ve often wondered over the last few years...

‘Do the hierarchy of the club actually see (as plain as day) what appears to be happening here in Scottish football? Do they see the same bias reporting of MSM on about all things Rangers? Do they see the orchestrated demonisation of the fans and club by the usual suspects? Do they see the same pattern in refereeing disparity and compliance officers appointments and decisions? Do they see the biggest abuse cover up in world sport happening right under their noses whilst we still get hounded for using a ‘legal’ and reported tax avoidance scheme?

Im not sure if it’s just a case of board personnel, or as an institution maybe not being in a strong enough position to do anything about it, or even biding our time until picking a battle we had a realistic chance of coming out on top.

However, after listening to DP’s Q & A and watching John Bennett’s Interview the other day I came to the conclusion that they see exactly what’s been going on and it was refreshing to hear what he had to say in the plain straight talking language he used. Even, as predicted, if we don’t win the EGM vote I think like yourself this is just the start of looking to effect real changes and hold the farce of the incumbent leadership to account...

Great post Rob .Yes I do think they are aware of all these things .The clubs attitude these past 20 odd years , has had a lot to do with the change in the political landscape of football . The dignified silence got us nowhere .Only enemies that are not not scared to attack us .
Hopefully now , we have people there with the wherewithal, to make inroads into the complete imbalance of fairness. In just about everything that Rangers have to deal with on a daily basis  

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31 minutes ago, ChampionsAgain said:

50% Doncaster resigns the next day imo. 
 

I reckon we will get 35% backing. 

I think he may resign today also, to give a sense of calm, then they can carve up the SPFL to remove members powers and rehire him.

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