CXB 4,314 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 This mornings News Updates online BBC Scotland Sport https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/scotland Sky News Sport https://www.skysports.com/football Somebody down at Pacific Quay is hurting But pathetic from our supposed National broadcaster as usual, and they wonder why a lot of us do not pay the Licence fee. Juniorsparkie, Sunglasses Ron and Raligt 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Dude 20,026 Posted July 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2021 It was a friendly. Literally all the stuff on the front page relates to competitive sport so is more newsworthy. Most of it is the olympics. A wee look through the scottish football page and I can't see coverage of any friendlies at all. The suns splitting the trees, Rangers are looking good, its the end of the month, you don't need to be looking for things to be offended by. RockwellGers, DiamondDan, Brubear and 14 others 17 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,532 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 hour ago, CXB said: This mornings News Updates online BBC Scotland Sport https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/scotland Sky News Sport https://www.skysports.com/football Somebody down at Pacific Quay is hurting But pathetic from our supposed National broadcaster as usual, and they wonder why a lot of us do not pay the Licence fee. Fuck up with this pish. It’s a bore now. Everyone knows the script, we don’t need constant reminders. Not be reading any of it. TamCoopz and Malkytfp1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDak 798 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 To be fair, the papers never really report on friendlies either way for any team. I only really noticed it a few years ago. With friendlies being so hit and miss they’d be a minefield to report on anyway. The Dude 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TamCoopz 19,605 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 We say we don’t want them anywhere near us and now there’s moaning because they won’t put up a report of one of our friendlies 🤷🏻♂️ KeyserSoze 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick1200 2,828 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 On Sky Sports it's the 3rd story under latest and 6th story from the top. 1 hour ago, CXB said: This mornings News Updates online BBC Scotland Sport https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/scotland Sky News Sport https://www.skysports.com/football Somebody down at Pacific Quay is hurting But pathetic from our supposed National broadcaster as usual, and they wonder why a lot of us do not pay the Licence fee. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raligt 2,541 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 I think OP is getting at SS reported on the friendly, BBC didn't. However BBC reported on the tims pumpin by West Ham CXB 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wully 47,343 Posted July 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2021 Not even a souviner pull out in the daily record?! Malkytfp1, RockwellGers, Drunk and disorderly. and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, Raligt said: I think OP is getting at SS reported on the friendly, BBC didn't. However BBC reported on the tims pumpin by West Ham Nothing on their website about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Just cancelled my TV licence at last because of this. Starve them out. CXB, KeyserSoze, TamCoopz and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raligt 2,541 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 17 minutes ago, The Dude said: Nothing on their website about it. 1st pic, 2nd row, 2nd from left. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57957450 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raligt 2,541 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 @CXB BBC just put this up 15mins ago https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57968157 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Raligt said: 1st pic, 2nd row, 2nd from left. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57957450 Quotes from the manager? They weren't at Ibrox so will have to rip them from Rangers TV when they can be arsed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raligt 2,541 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Just now, The Dude said: Quotes from the manager? They weren't at Ibrox so will have to rip them from Rangers TV when they can be arsed. Still commented on the game which i think OP was getting at. It doesn't matter as they now have a story up about our game now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Raligt said: Still commented on the game which i think OP was getting at. It doesn't matter as they now have a story up about our game now. Why would anyone care that the BBC hadn't got around to copying quotes from Rangers TV yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockwellGers 14,712 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 It's cool, we all know how brilliant it was yesterday. We know. TheFamousPigeon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57968157 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,782 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57968157 Obviously seen CXB’s thread and thought they better put a story up to put him off the scent. mitre_mouldmaster 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFamousPigeon 9,352 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 28 minutes ago, RockwellGers said: It's cool, we all know how brilliant it was yesterday. We know. peter huistra and RockwellGers 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,470 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, mitre_mouldmaster said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57968157 Awaits the ‘he praised the new forwards attitude must be a dig at Morelos’ posts 🤣 TamCoopz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Just now, Tiger Shaw said: Awaits the ‘he praised the new forwards attitude must be a dig at Morelos’ posts 🤣 Personally, im awaiting the complaints about the BBC covering our games when they are supposed to be boycotting us. Profiting of the blue pound. North Antrim Loyal, The Dude and Tiger Shaw 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakbear 3,586 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 As good a place as any to paste this Rangers’ plan for the papers is pure hubris The club wants reporters to pay for access, but should remember it has not always been so mighty July 26 2021, The Times This has been an exceptional sporting summer: The British Lions’ pulsating victory in South Africa. Adam Peaty heading for gold in Tokyo. Novak Djokovic claiming a record-equalling 20th Grand Slam at Wimbledon. Collin Morikawa winning the Open golf championship on his debut. I would like to add the start of the football season in Scotland. Except there is a sour taste to it. Last season brought one of the most remarkable resurrections in the history of the Scottish game. Rangers, a club mired for years in financial scandal, insolvency, and a humiliating demotion to the third division, completed their return to the heights of the premiership by winning the title — their first in ten years. Under a brilliant manager, Steven Gerrard, they have turned their fortunes around. That comeback was reported, daily and in detail, on the back pages of every Scottish newspaper. Not any more. Rangers are proposing that coverage should be paid for. Not a pound or so, but big money. Newspapers will be asked for £25,000 for the privilege of reporting team news. That would allow one reporter and one photographer to attend matches and pre-match press conferences, and buy five exclusive interviews and a sit-down briefing with the manager. For £10,000 they would have access to the club, and one “exclusive” story. The media would be expected to pay for news — a concept that runs counter to the whole concept of freedom of the press. The response from newspapers can best be described as “cool”. One hopes the proposal will be thrown out with much the same disdain as the “super league” put forward by European clubs who ignored the interests of their fans in the interest of profit. It is an arrogant policy. It assumes that such is the power of a club that has forced itself to the head of the premiership, newspapers will be prepared to join an exclusive club within which information will be shared. That information, of course, will be controlled by Rangers. One has to assume that the privileged briefings and interviews will be entirely at the behest of the club’s executives. Independent scrutiny will go out of the window. This is not only about making money, it is about the power to manage news and ensure that it is positive. For a club that has only just emerged from the mire, this is hubris of a high degree. Rangers may be enjoying a one-year high, but who is to say it will be maintained? A manager departs, say, the wins drop away, suspicions grow that the bosses are withholding investment in good players. Who is there to probe for the truth, when every reporter is inside the bubble? The club seems unaware of all this. It argues that as television pays high fees for coverage, so should newspapers. But there is a crucial difference. Coverage of live games on TV is a boost to ratings, which have a commercial value. Newspapers are giving readers an insight into where the club stands. When, for instance, yesterday’s friendly against Real Madrid is reported, there will be no question-and-answer with the manager, no discussion about tactics or team choices. Any comments will have to be gleaned from Rangers TV, controlled by the club itself. What is depressing is to note the complete lack of comment from the Scottish Professional Football League — the body that governs the national men’s association football league. Its own rules say there must be media access, but it has, so far as I can see, said nothing about all this. If Rangers have their way and some news organisations accept their terms, this will be the thin end of an almighty wedge, with celtic possibly willing to join in, and then the other powerful clubs signing on. The club argues that in the era of social media, fans and their organisations have a far wider reach than newspapers. Better by far to restrict access to supporters — that way favourable coverage can be guaranteed. The fans agree. They have a low opinion of the press, which reports bad news as well as the good. That can change, however, and if an independent voice is excluded, who will represent the interests of fans when they demand answers to what has gone wrong? A good example is the Europa League incident in which the Czech player Ondrej Kudela was accused of racially abusing the Rangers player Glen Kamara. A disputed episode that required good, objective reporting, it would have been, under Rangers’ new terms, confined to a club-controlled statement, with no investigation of the circumstances, or the rebuttal from Kudela. One-sided news is no news at all. Football is entertainment as well as spectacle. No self-respecting theatre, concert hall or pop venue would consider charging critics for access. Pretty soon the notices would dry up and the audiences dwindle. In England, where clubs would quite fancy charging newspapers, the argument has got nowhere. Nor should it in Scotland. Rangers would do well to remember an ancient virtue called humility. It is less than ten years since the club was downgraded to the third division, where it lost 1–0 to Stirling Albion, then the bottom club in the country. Success is never guaranteed; a downward spiral can occur in the blink of an eye. Best perhaps to remember that old adage about pride coming before a fall. 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Brubear 2,920 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 2 hours ago, BigDak said: To be fair, the papers never really report on friendlies either way for any team. I only really noticed it a few years ago. With friendlies being so hit and miss they’d be a minefield to report on anyway. The only game BBC did any reporting on was the Hammering (pun intended) of the tarriers and it was more about Ange post match reaction which was bizarre. They now have a post match comments from SG regarding the RM game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 43 minutes ago, Bakbear said: As good a place as any to paste this Rangers’ plan for the papers is pure hubris The club wants reporters to pay for access, but should remember it has not always been so mighty July 26 2021, The Times This has been an exceptional sporting summer: The British Lions’ pulsating victory in South Africa. Adam Peaty heading for gold in Tokyo. Novak Djokovic claiming a record-equalling 20th Grand Slam at Wimbledon. Collin Morikawa winning the Open golf championship on his debut. I would like to add the start of the football season in Scotland. Except there is a sour taste to it. Last season brought one of the most remarkable resurrections in the history of the Scottish game. Rangers, a club mired for years in financial scandal, insolvency, and a humiliating demotion to the third division, completed their return to the heights of the premiership by winning the title — their first in ten years. Under a brilliant manager, Steven Gerrard, they have turned their fortunes around. That comeback was reported, daily and in detail, on the back pages of every Scottish newspaper. Not any more. Rangers are proposing that coverage should be paid for. Not a pound or so, but big money. Newspapers will be asked for £25,000 for the privilege of reporting team news. That would allow one reporter and one photographer to attend matches and pre-match press conferences, and buy five exclusive interviews and a sit-down briefing with the manager. For £10,000 they would have access to the club, and one “exclusive” story. The media would be expected to pay for news — a concept that runs counter to the whole concept of freedom of the press. The response from newspapers can best be described as “cool”. One hopes the proposal will be thrown out with much the same disdain as the “super league” put forward by European clubs who ignored the interests of their fans in the interest of profit. It is an arrogant policy. It assumes that such is the power of a club that has forced itself to the head of the premiership, newspapers will be prepared to join an exclusive club within which information will be shared. That information, of course, will be controlled by Rangers. One has to assume that the privileged briefings and interviews will be entirely at the behest of the club’s executives. Independent scrutiny will go out of the window. This is not only about making money, it is about the power to manage news and ensure that it is positive. For a club that has only just emerged from the mire, this is hubris of a high degree. Rangers may be enjoying a one-year high, but who is to say it will be maintained? A manager departs, say, the wins drop away, suspicions grow that the bosses are withholding investment in good players. Who is there to probe for the truth, when every reporter is inside the bubble? The club seems unaware of all this. It argues that as television pays high fees for coverage, so should newspapers. But there is a crucial difference. Coverage of live games on TV is a boost to ratings, which have a commercial value. Newspapers are giving readers an insight into where the club stands. When, for instance, yesterday’s friendly against Real Madrid is reported, there will be no question-and-answer with the manager, no discussion about tactics or team choices. Any comments will have to be gleaned from Rangers TV, controlled by the club itself. What is depressing is to note the complete lack of comment from the Scottish Professional Football League — the body that governs the national men’s association football league. Its own rules say there must be media access, but it has, so far as I can see, said nothing about all this. If Rangers have their way and some news organisations accept their terms, this will be the thin end of an almighty wedge, with celtic possibly willing to join in, and then the other powerful clubs signing on. The club argues that in the era of social media, fans and their organisations have a far wider reach than newspapers. Better by far to restrict access to supporters — that way favourable coverage can be guaranteed. The fans agree. They have a low opinion of the press, which reports bad news as well as the good. That can change, however, and if an independent voice is excluded, who will represent the interests of fans when they demand answers to what has gone wrong? A good example is the Europa League incident in which the Czech player Ondrej Kudela was accused of racially abusing the Rangers player Glen Kamara. A disputed episode that required good, objective reporting, it would have been, under Rangers’ new terms, confined to a club-controlled statement, with no investigation of the circumstances, or the rebuttal from Kudela. One-sided news is no news at all. Football is entertainment as well as spectacle. No self-respecting theatre, concert hall or pop venue would consider charging critics for access. Pretty soon the notices would dry up and the audiences dwindle. In England, where clubs would quite fancy charging newspapers, the argument has got nowhere. Nor should it in Scotland. Rangers would do well to remember an ancient virtue called humility. It is less than ten years since the club was downgraded to the third division, where it lost 1–0 to Stirling Albion, then the bottom club in the country. Success is never guaranteed; a downward spiral can occur in the blink of an eye. Best perhaps to remember that old adage about pride coming before a fall. To be honest, if another club tried to do this, I would criticise them. I hate the press enough to not really care enough to criticise Rangers. Admittedly hypocritical, but fuck it. Bakbear and Tiger Shaw 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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