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9 hours ago, johanvanhentze said:

Is this the Golden Age of European football for Rangers? We have gotten further in the past, but in the modern era of football, we have beaten some very good teams, with far superior resources, with convincing performances.

What are yoiur thoughts? 

This is the modern age and we're doing very well, the stuff of yesterday bears zero influence over us, anyone who  says any different is a fenian bastard

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6 hours ago, GOAT said:

No this is Rangers doing what they should always be doing.

But they don't do it, history shows us that. So that's what makes it a golden age, its stands out way over and above the usual catalogue of embarrassments we usually get in Europe, this is a peak a much longer trough will inevitably follow.

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How can it be a golden era when we got put out in thr Champions League qualifiers this season.

We’ve been excellent in the Europa however you can’t compare to Advocaat and Smith teams in the late 90s/00s who didn’t get the safety net of another competition.

If 3rd place teams dropped down in the Advocaat era especially the year with Bayern and Valencia there is no doubting we’d have made the latter stages regularly and potentially won it.

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2 minutes ago, ElBufalo20 said:

How can it be a golden era when we got put out in thr Champions League qualifiers this season.

We’ve been excellent in the Europa however you can’t compare to Advocaat and Smith teams in the late 90s/00s who didn’t get the safety net of another competition.

If 3rd place teams dropped down in the Advocaat era especially the year with Bayern and Valencia there is no doubting we’d have made the latter stages regularly and potentially won it.

Fair point, but in terms of the fan experience it's a golden era. Consistently competing and beating top sides, progressing from group stages has been extremely rare to see. Regardless of the reason.

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45 minutes ago, ElBufalo20 said:

How can it be a golden era when we got put out in thr Champions League qualifiers this season.

We’ve been excellent in the Europa however you can’t compare to Advocaat and Smith teams in the late 90s/00s who didn’t get the safety net of another competition.

If 3rd place teams dropped down in the Advocaat era especially the year with Bayern and Valencia there is no doubting we’d have made the latter stages regularly and potentially won it.

We did have the safety net though from about 97 onwards. After losing to Gothenburg we got papped out the UEFA Cup by Strasbourg. In 2000 we dropped down into the UEFA Cup from the group you mentioned and lost to immeadiately to Dortmund in the last 32, same the season after with Kaiserlautern and the year after that when Fenerbache knocked us out the CL qualifiers.

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13 hours ago, ForeverAndEver said:

Fucked Forrest off after Berwick, Willoughby was in great form iirc, and played Hynd who wasn’t a striker because he scored a few in the reserves

We certainly shot ourselves in the foot there .

When you look at the stats Jim Forrest ( 83 goals , 105 apps ) and George McLean ( 49 goals , 69 apps ) were the two blamed for the Berwick defeat and never played for Rangers again , which , as you said , left us short up front for the ECWC final  

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2 hours ago, bluenoz said:

This season is starting to mirror 2008.

I’m not really sure . I was always confident that the 2008 team was going to deliver the title . The congestion at the end played a huge part unfortunately . Without Europe that team would have delivered the title at a bit of a canter in my opinion.  

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10 hours ago, DiamondDan said:

But they don't do it, history shows us that. So that's what makes it a golden age, its stands out way over and above the usual catalogue of embarrassments we usually get in Europe, this is a peak a much longer trough will inevitably follow.

That says more about the teams of the past than this one.  

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23 minutes ago, GOAT said:

That says more about the teams of the past than this one.  

What does it say about them? The 92/93 team that basically got to the semis of the CL, the spine of that team achieved alot domestically over a number of years, surely they weren't shite then. 

Recently we've done been better consistently in Europe though. Its how it all measures up I suppose. 

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I think we need to be getting into finals in Europe consistently over the next few years to make it a golden age.

If you had only knew Rangers over the last 20 years, you can point to the odd year where we go deep in a tournament but this is the first period of consistently getting past Decemeber every year for the last 3/4 years. So, not a golden age but it has the potiential to become one.

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16 minutes ago, Leftpegcoopz11 said:

What does it say about them? The 92/93 team that basically got to the semis of the CL, the spine of that team achieved alot domestically over a number of years, surely they weren't shite then. 

Recently we've done been better consistently in Europe though. Its how it all measures up I suppose. 

Don’t get why you mentioned that team?  
 

anyway, minimum expectation for a rangers team is europe after Christmas.  If that doesn’t happen, then it’s underachieving.  Certainly not a hard task to ask for either finish second in a Europa league group stage or finish third in the CL.  Minimum expectation level reached. 

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1 hour ago, GOAT said:

Don’t get why you mentioned that team?  
 

Do you not!? 

Like I've said, alot of the members of that team/squad were mainstays of our achieving 9 in a row, a very successful period in our history. 

So based on your previous comment, "what does that say about them?" 

 

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2 hours ago, Leftpegcoopz11 said:

Do you not!? 

Like I've said, alot of the members of that team/squad were mainstays of our achieving 9 in a row, a very successful period in our history. 

So based on your previous comment, "what does that say about them?" 

 

Apart from maybe one season the 9 in a row team underachieved in Europe 

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10 minutes ago, Tiger Shaw said:

Apart from maybe one season the 9 in a row team underachieved in Europe 

I know that, that's not the point based on his comment. Does that mean they were shite then? We never done particularly well in Europe bar that year (92/93)then Manchester, doesn't mean we write they teams off. 

The Rangers team recently havent performed as consistently in cups/the league but have been very consistent in Europe, within reason. 

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15 minutes ago, Leftpegcoopz11 said:

I know that, that's not the point based on his comment. Does that mean they were shite then? We never done particularly well in Europe bar that year (92/93)then Manchester, doesn't mean we write they teams off. 

The Rangers team recently havent performed as consistently in cups/the league but have been very consistent in Europe, within reason. 

Who said they were shite?

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