stuart1994 4,539 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 25 minutes ago, SIRB_72 said: He certainly wouldnt be my first choise but I actually really like Sean Dyche and the job he did at Burnley was fantastic. His football isn't exactly easy on the eye but there is a structure and everyone is coached well and knows their role in attack and defence. There's a hell of a lot worse than Sean Dyche out there. That for me is the interesting thing in regards to Dyche, he looked at Burnley in that league and decided that way was the best way of keeping them in the league with the resources at hand. I’m not sure if he’s just an out and out negative coach or if it’s just a case of he was playing with the cards he was dealt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronto2Glasgow 1,920 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Hadron Collider said: No chance mate. easy trade. Arteta and Xhaka for Gio and Davis. Hadron Collider 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brubear 2,979 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 53 minutes ago, Blueshoff said: I should have said minimum requirements So you would accept 38 draws and sneak into top six. 😅 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,709 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 If Jessie Marsch gets sacked which is looking likely I think he will be someone we look at Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 37,705 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 9 hours ago, chris182 said: Amazing the amount of people who think Thomson is the answer. They are just fishing in a very small Scottish pond. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 37,705 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 I quite like Rebrov’s record. The Ibrox Derry and SPWF 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIRB_72 4,160 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 56 minutes ago, stuart1994 said: That for me is the interesting thing in regards to Dyche, he looked at Burnley in that league and decided that way was the best way of keeping them in the league with the resources at hand. I’m not sure if he’s just an out and out negative coach or if it’s just a case of he was playing with the cards he was dealt. Well the thing is he has won a league. You have to have some sort attacking intent during games or throughout a season to be successful in a 46 game campaign. I think you're right, just working within his clubs limitations, surprised nobody in the EPL snapped him up sooner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ibrox Derry 9,236 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said: If Jessie Marsch gets sacked which is looking likely I think he will be someone we look at Well it would be appropriate, as we have alot of Big Jessie's on the pitch for him to manage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 23,932 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Can those pushing Rebrov’s name forward please give me a few reasons why he’s the man we need? Genuine old cunt who still thinks of him as a player and really wants to see why he keeps getting quoted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacBoyd 6,105 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Colin Traive said: Can those pushing Rebrov’s name forward please give me a few reasons why he’s the man we need? Genuine old cunt who still thinks of him as a player and really wants to see why he keeps getting quoted Yes in same boat. What is his personality and English like, from what I remember he seemed a quiet guy like gio? Think it's pretty obvious the Rangers manager needs to be a larger than life or intimidating character. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacBoyd 6,105 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 26 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said: If Jessie Marsch gets sacked which is looking likely I think he will be someone we look at You surely can't be serious teddybear1975 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddybear1975 2,303 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, MacBoyd said: You surely can't be serious I read that in a John McEnroe accent. Roy Hobbs, MacBoyd and bluenoz 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIRB_72 4,160 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 If not Rebrov my second choice would be Pedro Martins who was obviously linked with Wolves Another manager who had an excellent record with a club similar to us and in a league similar to ours in Olympiakos. Joined the club the season after finishing 13 points behind PAOK. Failed to win anything in the first season despite an 80% win record and getting to the EL last 32 knocking out AC Milan head to head in the groups. Went onto win the next three leagues by 18, 26 and 19 points with a win percentage of 77% x2 and 69%. The win percentage was always higher in the first 26 games and would then drop off in Greeks version of the split when the league would already be secured. For example in his final season 21/22 their win rate was 80% in the first 26 games but then dropped down to 69% post play-off. Domestically he only won the greek cup once in four attempts which isn't too great. In Europe in season 19/20 they qualified for the CL and finished 3rd in a group with Tottenham, Bayern and Red Star. In the EL they got to the last 16 knocking Arsenal out in the L32. In 20/21 they again got to the CL finishing 3rd in a group with Man City, Porto and Marseille and got to the EL last 16 this time getting knocked out by Arsenal. In 21/22 they did lose on penalties to Ludogorets in the CL QF but got to the L32 of the EL losing to Atalanta after getting through a group with Frankfurt, Fenerbahce and Antwerp. He also had a good track record in Portugal before joining Olympiakos with Maritimo, Rio Ave and Victoria Guimaraes. He got Maritimo to the EL group stage for the first time in their history and finished 3rd in a group with Newcastle, Bordeaux and Club Brugge. With Rio Ave he qualified them for the EL group stages but left for Victoria before competing in them. With Victoria he took them to a 4th place finish equalling their highest points tally in club history, runner up in the national cup and knocked out of their EL group that contained RB Salzburg, Marseille and Konyaspor. His Olympiakos team played a high pressing 4-2-3-1 with plenty of movement and creation. Clearly matching how our squad has been built with elements it's needing worked on. OrangeRab and Colin Traive 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,709 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 22 minutes ago, MacBoyd said: You surely can't be serious Why Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIRB_72 4,160 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 29 minutes ago, Colin Traive said: Can those pushing Rebrov’s name forward please give me a few reasons why he’s the man we need? Genuine old cunt who still thinks of him as a player and really wants to see why he keeps getting quoted 23 minutes ago, MacBoyd said: Yes in same boat. What is his personality and English like, from what I remember he seemed a quiet guy like gio? Think it's pretty obvious the Rangers manager needs to be a larger than life or intimidating character. He has a fantastic track record with Dynamo Kiev and Ferencvaros domestically and in Europe. With Dynamo, before last season, he was the only manager to win them any titles (two in a row) since 2009. In the league his win rate was 82% with both seasons combined and lost 1 game in 52. In his first full season he also took Dynamo to the QF of the Europa League and were level on aggregate before a sending off away to Fiorentina. In his second season he took Dynamo to the L16 in the CL getting knocked out by Man City. All this in a league that is arguably stronger than our own, in effectively a two horse and smashed the competition by winning consitently along with doing extremely well in Europe. From what I can tell it was with what he was given as well. In his three seasons with Ferencvaros there he won the league by 13 points, 13 points again and then 20 points. Similar to his time at Dynamo, Ferencvaros had won one league title in 15 years before his arrival. in Europe he was extremely impressive, like Gerrard. In his first season they were out of Europe before he joined, in his second they missed on the CL after losing to Dinamo Zagreb but got Ferencvaros to their first European group stage in 15 years. In his third and final season we know what he did do to a certain team but more importantly got Ferencvaros to the CL group stages for the first time in their history. In between Dynamo and Ferencvaros he took a spell in Saudi Arabia, presumably for the pay day, and has now taken a job in the UAE, no doubt for the same reasons. However, his pedigree domestically and in Europe is too good to ignore. I also suspect due to his 4/5 years in England he has a decent grasp of the language along with how British football works. He also plays a high pressing game and his teams are fit as well, something we're lacking just now. MacBoyd, NorthernLights, SPWF and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 33,372 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 32 minutes ago, Colin Traive said: Can those pushing Rebrov’s name forward please give me a few reasons why he’s the man we need? Genuine old cunt who still thinks of him as a player and really wants to see why he keeps getting quoted He wins things from what would appear to be relatively difficult circumstances broadly similar to ours is my main one. graeme_4 and SIRB_72 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 32,426 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 25 minutes ago, teddybear1975 said: I read that in a John McEnroe accent. Chalk flew up! teddybear1975 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddybear1975 2,303 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hadron Collider said: Chalk flew up! 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDak 851 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Blueshoff said: Requirements for the job (in order): Don't lose Don't lose to that mob Play good football Preferably all three. Mate, now I’m not saying things are rosy in the garden, but if this season has shown me anything it’s that the top priority is no getting beat off the beasts. I genuinely think that if we hadn’t got our pants pulled down in August the furore wouldn’t be anywhere near as bad. I actually don’t even think a 1-0 loss would have lessened the mood. If we’d have beaten them 1-0, or even drawn, at the paedo dome I don’t think people would’ve been anywhere near as pissed off with this season. Up until yesterday, while the performances haven’t been great domestically, our results have been pretty decent. In fact, we’ve still only lost once. I appreciate I’m just ignoring the CL debacle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacBoyd 6,105 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, BigDak said: Mate, now I’m not saying things are rosy in the garden, but if this season has shown me anything it’s that the top priority is no getting beat off the beasts. I genuinely think that if we hadn’t got our pants pulled down in August the furore wouldn’t be anywhere near as bad. I actually don’t even think a 1-0 loss would have lessened the mood. If we’d have beaten them 1-0, or even drawn, at the paedo dome I don’t think people would’ve been anywhere near as pissed off with this season. Up until yesterday, while the performances haven’t been great domestically, our results have been pretty decent. In fact, we’ve still only lost once. I appreciate I’m just ignoring the CL debacle. Well obviously but losing 4 nil and being 4 behind and winning at parkhead and being 2 points ahead is quite a big and important difference... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDak 851 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 hour ago, MacBoyd said: Well obviously but losing 4 nil and being 4 behind and winning at parkhead and being 2 points ahead is quite a big and important difference... Agreed. It wasn’t useful not acknowledging that. But I just think we as a support put more credit in the bank for winning (or possibly not losing, these days at least) the OF games than we might be willing to acknowledge. I don’t think there’s any separating order of priority of 1) winning 2) beating the filth and 3) playing well. Possibly number 3 taking a back seat. MacBoyd 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowley Birkin 10,040 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 im coming round to the idea of dyche and rebrov if either of those got the job i'd be more than happy as for seoane im not sure he can handle the pressure as manager for a big club i think thats whats costing him his job at leverkusen and i think the other two has a bit of fire in them that the players will respond too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueshoff 12,915 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 13 hours ago, Brubear said: So you would accept 38 draws and sneak into top six. 😅 Probably a realistic target at the moment! Juniorsparkie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 37,705 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 9 hours ago, Rowley Birkin said: im coming round to the idea of dyche and rebrov if either of those got the job i'd be more than happy as for seoane im not sure he can handle the pressure as manager for a big club i think thats whats costing him his job at leverkusen and i think the other two has a bit of fire in them that the players will respond too I’m coming round to the idea of literally anyone right now. Rowley Birkin 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essandoh 21,893 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Wilson’s probably on the phone with Jack Ross Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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