The Dude 20,026 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 59 minutes ago, DiamondDan said: Smith put Goram on the transfer list for much less. He also allowed various players away with murder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 66,215 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 He signed El Hadji Diouf ffs The Dude 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,958 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, DiamondDan said: Smith put Goram on the transfer list for much less. You dont honestly believe smith was intent on selling goram do you? The Dude, scottyscott1963 and Malkytfp1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondDan 2,386 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: You dont honestly believe smith was intent on selling goram do you? If he hadn't got his act together? Aye. He'd have looked a right bellend making empty threats. It worked, Goram knuckled down. Morelos had multiple chances and never ever learned his lesson, so he would have been out the door. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, DiamondDan said: If he hadn't got his act together? Aye. He'd have looked a right bellend making empty threats. It worked, Goram knuckled down. Morelos had multiple chances and never ever learned his lesson, so he would have been out the door. 😂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondDan 2,386 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Dude said: 😂 He did what Morelos could never do.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemac 5,076 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 45 minutes ago, DiamondDan said: I hardly think you can compare Morelos' on pitch contributions to Gazza's ffs 😂 Good managers make special cases for special players like Gazza, Cantona, George Best. Not alfredo morelos. Absolute pish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 35,185 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Posted this in another thread. This is what we should have had from him consistently, if he’d been a professional instead of doing what he did. Should have been destined for the top, instead he’s struggling for a club. DiamondDan and nik2402 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondDan 2,386 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, stevemac said: Absolute pish. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, DiamondDan said: He did what Morelos could never do.... 😂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: Posted this in another thread. This is what we should have had from him consistently, if he’d been a professional instead of doing what he did. Should have been destined for the top, instead he’s struggling for a club. 124 goals and 58 assists in 269 games is fairly consistent Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, stevemac said: Absolute pish. No it's always been the case throughout the years. Special players are treated differently. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 66,215 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: Posted this in another thread. This is what we should have had from him consistently, if he’d been a professional instead of doing what he did. Should have been destined for the top, instead he’s struggling for a club. state of that pitch Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,958 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 20 minutes ago, DiamondDan said: If he hadn't got his act together? Aye. He'd have looked a right bellend making empty threats. It worked, Goram knuckled down. Morelos had multiple chances and never ever learned his lesson, so he would have been out the door. Yet with all the money we were spending not once did walter go and buy another first choice keeper, instead he was waiting to see if goram was sold first You honestly think that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post graeme_4 35,185 Posted July 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just now, The Dude said: 124 goals and 58 assists in 269 games is fairly consistent I’m not going back and forward on this with you again. He didn’t reach his potential, and it’s because didn’t give his all and didn’t act as professionally as he should have. Keep defending him if you like, but he underachieved at us with the talent he had. As a result he’s struggling for a decent club. Smile, demise, bluenose244 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Godfather 72,650 Posted July 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Dude said: 124 goals and 58 assists in 269 games is fairly consistent In numbers it looks like it but we all know for large spells of certain seasons he's fell to fuck away from the high standards he set. If he didn't chuck it he'd either be playing abroad and we would have the guts of 25 million in the coffers or he'd have multiple titles and trophies and still be with us on the cusp of a big move. He was a great servant for the price but I think everyone knows he could have done a lot more had his attitude and fitness been at the levels it's capable of. graeme_4, Broxi, HG5 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just now, graeme_4 said: I’m not going back and forward on this with you again. He didn’t reach his potential, and it’s because didn’t give his all and didn’t act as professionally as he should have. Keep defending him if you like, but he underachieved at us with the talent he had. As a result he’s struggling for a decent club. Is he? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 35,185 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just now, The Dude said: Is he? Sure seems to be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 minute ago, The Godfather said: In numbers it looks like it but we all know for large spells of certain seasons he's fell to fuck away from the high standards he set. If he didn't chuck it he'd either be playing abroad and we would have the guts of 25 million in the coffers or he'd have multiple titles and trophies and still be with us on the cusp of a big move. He's was a great servant for the price but I think everyone knows he could have done a lot more had his attitude and fitness been at the levels it's capable of. We were offered big fees for him and said no. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 minute ago, graeme_4 said: Sure seems to be. Based on? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 66,215 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: Is he? graeme_4, Broxi, bluenose244 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 66,215 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just now, The Dude said: Based on? graeme_4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 35,185 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just now, The Dude said: Based on? Not having a club yet… DiamondDan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Godfather said: In numbers it looks like it but we all know for large spells of certain seasons he's fell to fuck away from the high standards he set. If he didn't chuck it he'd either be playing abroad and we would have the guts of 25 million in the coffers or he'd have multiple titles and trophies and still be with us on the cusp of a big move. He was a great servant for the price but I think everyone knows he could have done a lot more had his attitude and fitness been at the levels it's capable of. Yes, Morelos of the first few seasons if he had developed more would have got his move to the EPL maybe to a lower end club and then push on again. Sadly that didn't happen. Nothing worse than watching talented players throwing it away. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just now, graeme_4 said: Not having a club yet… Neither do loads of players who left clubs on frees over the summer. De Gea, Zaha, Lingard etc. If (as rumoured) he’s heading to MLS, I wouldn’t be shocked if it’s another month or two before any deals done Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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