Tav's time is up.

[LaaRFC 4,973]

1 minute ago, Jamie0202 said:

Criticise Tav for his football but not for his reaction. Guaranteed if he said nothing back to the guy people would call him out for that too and calling him a shitebag. It's a nothing incident tbh.

One guy shouting and not really out of order tbf. 

My exact thoughts. Would be called meek and it would be used as an example of why he’s not a captain if he just slunk past. 

[Jamie0202 13,011]

1 minute ago, ElBufalo20 said:

Hardly. Propper was unfortunate to slip but an attacker will always get on to a mistake like that first as they can see the game in front of them and it’s easier to run on to.

Nah. Tav had one job and one player to mark at the opener. He failed. Like he's failed against that same player countless times. 

[ger4life_1872 30,495]

1 minute ago, Jamie0202 said:

Criticise Tav for his football but not for his reaction. Guaranteed if he said nothing back to the guy people would call him out for that too and calling him a shitebag. It's a nothing incident tbh.

One guy shouting and not really out of order tbf. 

This , hes in a no win situation tbh , says nothing - hes a shitebag 

Bites back - where was that fucking fight earlier 

[esquire8 45,142]

Just now, Jamie0202 said:

Criticise Tav for his football but not for his reaction. Guaranteed if he said nothing back to the guy people would call him out for that too and calling him a shitebag. It's a nothing incident tbh.

One guy shouting and not really out of order tbf. 

No one else is reacting to someone calling their captain a shitebag. Why? Because it's one guy having a go, you keep your head down and you get on the bus. Nothing comes of it, nothing gets posted on social media. 

Tav and Clement biting at these guys says alot about their headspace right now and it's not good.

[Moody Blue Legend 63,373]

6 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said:

Well done to the guy who was criticising him.

 

Well deserved.

Mate see that disgrace from him sauntering back after being on his arse when they were attacking, deserves every bit of criticism going his way.  Done with him. 

[Roy Hobbs 2,910]

1 minute ago, starofdavid said:

think everyone is missing the obvious solution to the tav  problem, we can pay off his agreed contract and sack him, you know, wee  bit of respect for a HoF member who has served us well,  we are acting like the husband thats got tired off the loyal wife and want's her gone ....she will go but she will want whats owed to her....period

Aye obviously we should just give him the £3m left on his contract since we're flush as fuck with money. We should sort Hagi out with his £2m as well.

[DeanMK 5,238]

Should have been gone in the summer. He's pushing 33 and his legs have fucking gone. He's nowhere near good enough.

[Loyal72 13,605]

2 minutes ago, esquire8 said:

No one else is reacting to someone calling their captain a shitebag. Why? Because it's one guy having a go, you keep your head down and you get on the bus. Nothing comes of it, nothing gets posted on social media. 

Tav and Clement biting at these guys says alot about their headspace right now and it's not good.

If Tav doesn't react, no one says much about the clip imo, other than aye it's no pretty but the guys venting his feelings.

Him reacting though, being so outraged and offended by one guy calling him shite, to me just confirms that weak mentality he has.

[ForeverAndEver 73,860]

19 minutes ago, ElBufalo20 said:

I accept that but its the easy target thing he’s the only one left from the last few years so its easy to have a go at him

Easy target? 3 league games against them in a row his poor defending leads to a goal.

[STEPPS BOY 77,472]

2 minutes ago, Moody Blue Legend said:

Mate see that disgrace from him sauntering back after being on his arse when they were attacking, deserves every bit of criticism going his way.  Done with him. 

Emblematic of all what is wrong at the club.

Should be dropped for our next game.

[Jamie0202 13,011]

1 minute ago, esquire8 said:

No one else is reacting to someone calling their captain a shitebag. Why? Because it's one guy having a go, you keep your head down and you get on the bus. Nothing comes of it, nothing gets posted on social media. 

Tav and Clement biting at these guys says alot about their headspace right now and it's not good.

Mountain out a molehill tbh. It's a bit of backchat. Hardly offered the guy a square go. The guy shouting has every right to and Tav has every right to speak back to the guy. It's barely anything. People filming it then posting it are a problem. I guarantee that video is on the scum version of RM right now and they're pishing themselves at it like we were at sharkgate during 55.

[Roy Hobbs 2,910]

3 minutes ago, Jamie0202 said:

Nah. Tav had one job and one player to mark at the opener. He failed. Like he's failed against that same player countless times. 

I think it's nigh on impossible to mark in that situation. The ball is getting cut back from about 10 yards away and you're naturally facing that direction and trying to watch the movement of Maeda as well. Don't let the runner get beyond and stop the ball coming in the first place or cut it out at the front post. After that it's 50/50 at best.

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Just now, Roy Hobbs said:

Aye obviously we should just give him the £3m left on his contract since we're flush as fuck with money. We should sort Hagi out with his £2m as well.

If you start the  divorce, you should be prepared for the alimony, this hounding out of players hoping they will walk away from the onerous contract WE gave them is shit behaviour...IMO

pay the fukin man and get rid 

[Moody Blue Legend 63,373]

Just now, STEPPS BOY said:

Emblematic of all what is wrong at the club.

Should be dropped for our next game.

Get back to you when I Google that first word.

[esquire8 45,142]

1 minute ago, Loyal72 said:

If Tav doesn't react, no one says much about the clip imo, other than aye it's no pretty but the guys venting his feelings.

Him reacting though, being so outraged and offended by one guy calling him shite, to me just confirms that weak mentality he has.

As I said that's him and Clement biting. Really not good that being your captain and manager. 

If the guy said something well out of order then the other players would've backed him up but he didn't. 

[King Jela 21,607]

2 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said:

Easy target? 3 league games against them in a row his poor defending leads to a goal.

Try 3 year in a row mate.

[Moody Blue Legend 63,373]

2 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said:

Emblematic of all what is wrong at the club.

Should be dropped for our next game.

Exactly!

[Prso's headband 36,751]

26 minutes ago, AGM_72 said:

Rogers has lost what, 1 of these games? Tav will have been there and played in practically all of those and he was as bad as he's ever been today.

Tav has won 9 in over 30. An average of 1 in 4.

[Roy Hobbs 2,910]

Just now, starofdavid said:

If you start the  divorce, you should be prepared for the alimony, this hounding out of players hoping they will walk away from the onerous contract WE gave them is shit behaviour...IMO

pay the fukin man and get rid 

Nobody is hounding Tavernier out though and Hagi is entitled to sit on the sidelines for the next 2 years and take the money. If he wants to play football it'll be on terms that suit everybody.

[ElBufalo20 8,158]

2 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said:

Easy target? 3 league games against them in a row his poor defending leads to a goal.

Well yeah cos Butland cost us the game with the second goal and also the cup final with a mistake. Yet wasn’t after him.

We’ve a whole new squad since the ‘losers’ have left so can’t just been down to Tavernier today to get abuse.

He ultimately should’ve been stripped of the captaincy at the very least 

[esquire8 45,142]

3 minutes ago, Jamie0202 said:

Mountain out a molehill tbh. It's a bit of backchat. Hardly offered the guy a square go. The guy shouting has every right to and Tav has every right to speak back to the guy. It's barely anything. People filming it then posting it are a problem. I guarantee that video is on the scum version of RM right now and they're pishing themselves at it like we were at sharkgate during 55.

Our captain is being held back by security as a fan told him some home truths. Stuff he's probably heard a million times. He doesn't react and there's no spreading on social media. Support can film what they want, players should be better than that let alone the club captain.

[Jamie0202 13,011]

11 minutes ago, Roy Hobbs said:

I think it's nigh on impossible to mark in that situation. The ball is getting cut back from about 10 yards away and you're naturally facing that direction and trying to watch the movement of Maeda as well. Don't let the runner get beyond and stop the ball coming in the first place or cut it out at the front post. After that it's 50/50 at best.

We'll agree to disagree. 3 or 4 players from out side played their part but Tav was the worst for me. At the opposite end Dessers played a brilliant touch to Cerny making the run in and Taylor matched Cerny's run all the way and got to the ball first. Our captain should be doing the same. 

[beararse 6,883]

6 hours ago, Moody Blue Legend said:

Disgusting that bit of play second half and he went on his arse, just waits a wee bit before getting up and walking back.  Should be gone.

He actually turned and faced the half way line as play raged towards our goal.

[Somemightsay7 3,098]

43 minutes ago, gmcf said:

Don't like to see it but totally understandable.  It's not just Tav though , you could go through most the team after that today .

Some of the others can be understood to an extent - Cerny and Propper are brand new, Jefte is new and only 20, Souttar was only ever brought in to be a backup etc.

Tav is our captain and highest paid player and time after time he makes the same mistakes and costs us games.

[Somemightsay7 3,098]

21 minutes ago, starofdavid said:

think everyone is missing the obvious solution to the tav  problem, we can pay off his agreed contract and sack him, you know, wee  bit of respect for a HoF member who has served us well,  we are acting like the husband thats got tired off the loyal wife and want's her gone ....she will go but she will want whats owed to her....period

Why the fuck would we do that?

We have no money so lets pay a guy £3m to leave. 

That's not the obvious solution as it's a stupid solution.