Blueshoff 12,917 Posted Thursday at 22:02 Share Posted Thursday at 22:02 Best thing Clement can do is give him a couple of weeks in Dubai and see if he's any better when he gets back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 74,056 Posted Thursday at 22:28 Share Posted Thursday at 22:28 Another tap in at the back post at the hands of captain fantastic, fucking rotten. HG5 and graeme_4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,475 Posted Thursday at 22:31 Share Posted Thursday at 22:31 He won’t start on Sunday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craiggybear 6,405 Posted Thursday at 22:32 Share Posted Thursday at 22:32 1 minute ago, WWTC said: He won’t start on Sunday. Behave yourself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 30,606 Posted Thursday at 22:34 Share Posted Thursday at 22:34 49 minutes ago, bluenoz said: Was he resting him for the almighty St Johnstone or hooked him because another goal was conceded at his back post? Only time will tell... Was just another clement like for like sub imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 55,504 Posted Thursday at 22:36 Share Posted Thursday at 22:36 6 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Another tap in at the back post at the hands of captain fantastic, fucking rotten. He'll be disappointed, but commit to learn from it... ForeverAndEver 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross-Gazza genius 2,059 Posted Thursday at 22:37 Share Posted Thursday at 22:37 He git ripped into retirement and if Clement gives him another chance they can all fuck off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMckee 3,497 Posted Thursday at 23:15 Share Posted Thursday at 23:15 Should be dropped for kasanwijro but we all know he won't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmcf 35,477 Posted Friday at 05:12 Share Posted Friday at 05:12 5 hours ago, MrMckee said: Should be dropped for kasanwijro but we all know he won't. Agreed. I'd be absolutely stunned if he doesn't start on Sunday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger 9,048 Posted Friday at 05:16 Share Posted Friday at 05:16 2 minutes ago, gmcf said: Agreed. I'd be absolutely stunned if he doesn't start on Sunday. If Clement starts him then he’s a bigger clown than I thought. He’s made the call now and he’s got to stick by it. Tav on his knees as a player comes in to score at the back post again - the captain of Rangers Football Club This is what we’ve become. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lau03143 149 Posted Friday at 05:58 Share Posted Friday at 05:58 Tav's been done for a while for me, but tonight for me is the limit, enough is enough. I'm going to be harsh here, but he is a contributory parts for all goals, every goal was scored from that right side of the pitch. Goal 1: @2:08 in highlights. Player travels across full defence and into the box, but Tav has left his man and been pulled towards the ball, allowing the Lyon player to pick his spot. Goal 2: @3:40 in highlights. Tav, high up pitch, Lyon break. Souttar caught in CB nightmare, he steps up and he's caught, stand off and the inevitable happens. But Tolisso is busting a gut to get forward and into Tavs space. You can see in the highlights, Tav is jogging back, making zero effort, there is a player he could cover, but he's just not got the legs or will to get back into position. Goal 3: @4:13in highlights. You can see him start to run, but his legs just aren't there. You can see him point at his man he should track and just lets him go. Barron should be nailing him and he doesn't, but situation arises as Barron is having to travel distance out to a player to make a last ditch tackle. He then should be getting back into position when Barton goes out, but he just doesn't make it back. Souttar again caught in no man's land. Goal 4: @5:18 worst of lot, and most obvious. The first three goals here are all bad team goals to lose, and Tav is by no means at fault directly, but his inability to run or get back is causing (for me big issues in pulling players out of position to cover for him, creating too many 1 on 1 situations with the CB, where they are left looking like numpties. I know I'm being harsh here, but it's getting to the stage now where it's painful to see. Trooblue, HG5 and ayrshireranger 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmcf 35,477 Posted Friday at 05:58 Share Posted Friday at 05:58 38 minutes ago, Swagger said: If Clement starts him then he’s a bigger clown than I thought. He’s made the call now and he’s got to stick by it. Tav on his knees as a player comes in to score at the back post again - the captain of Rangers Football Club This is what we’ve become. I dont like being too critical of Tav, he's been a good servant and he doesn't pick himself but he's done, and the manager isn't helping him by continually picking him. Like I say, I think he'll start on Sunday. Blue72 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBOO72 4,802 Posted Friday at 06:03 Share Posted Friday at 06:03 If he picks him on Sunday, the manager should be sacked on the spot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamie 4,939 Posted Friday at 06:17 Share Posted Friday at 06:17 I honestly can't believe he's still here. Surely if youre trying to weed out the loser mentality, the 'Captain' is first out the door. HG5 and crazy bob swollenbaws 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crazy bob swollenbaws 1,935 Posted Friday at 06:32 Popular Post Share Posted Friday at 06:32 14 minutes ago, Hamie said: I honestly can't believe he's still here. Surely if youre trying to weed out the loser mentality, the 'Captain' is first out the door. Let's be honest. What we are seeing is what we all knew was going to happen. Blue Rino, Amokachi, HG5 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,475 Posted Friday at 06:40 Share Posted Friday at 06:40 8 hours ago, Craiggybear said: Behave yourself. We’ll see 👍🏻 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooblue 2,024 Posted Friday at 06:41 Share Posted Friday at 06:41 39 minutes ago, lau03143 said: Tav's been done for a while for me, but tonight for me is the limit, enough is enough. I'm going to be harsh here, but he is a contributory parts for all goals, every goal was scored from that right side of the pitch. Goal 1: @2:08 in highlights. Player travels across full defence and into the box, but Tav has left his man and been pulled towards the ball, allowing the Lyon player to pick his spot. Goal 2: @3:40 in highlights. Tav, high up pitch, Lyon break. Souttar caught in CB nightmare, he steps up and he's caught, stand off and the inevitable happens. But Tolisso is busting a gut to get forward and into Tavs space. You can see in the highlights, Tav is jogging back, making zero effort, there is a player he could cover, but he's just not got the legs or will to get back into position. Goal 3: @4:13in highlights. You can see him start to run, but his legs just aren't there. You can see him point at his man he should track and just lets him go. Barron should be nailing him and he doesn't, but situation arises as Barron is having to travel distance out to a player to make a last ditch tackle. He then should be getting back into position when Barton goes out, but he just doesn't make it back. Souttar again caught in no man's land. Goal 4: @5:18 worst of lot, and most obvious. The first three goals here are all bad team goals to lose, and Tav is by no means at fault directly, but his inability to run or get back is causing (for me big issues in pulling players out of position to cover for him, creating too many 1 on 1 situations with the CB, where they are left looking like numpties. I know I'm being harsh here, but it's getting to the stage now where it's painful to see. Agree with all of this - most of it was clear in the stadium. Been watching him play like this for the past two years, and it's demoralising to witness. Then there's the impact of his losing mentality on the squad. It's long past time for him to be dropped, but we knew if he didn't leave in the summer he would be (more or less) a fixture in the team. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
left winger 15,655 Posted Friday at 07:05 Share Posted Friday at 07:05 56 minutes ago, lau03143 said: Tav's been done for a while for me, but tonight for me is the limit, enough is enough. I'm going to be harsh here, but he is a contributory parts for all goals, every goal was scored from that right side of the pitch. Goal 1: @2:08 in highlights. Player travels across full defence and into the box, but Tav has left his man and been pulled towards the ball, allowing the Lyon player to pick his spot. Goal 2: @3:40 in highlights. Tav, high up pitch, Lyon break. Souttar caught in CB nightmare, he steps up and he's caught, stand off and the inevitable happens. But Tolisso is busting a gut to get forward and into Tavs space. You can see in the highlights, Tav is jogging back, making zero effort, there is a player he could cover, but he's just not got the legs or will to get back into position. Goal 3: @4:13in highlights. You can see him start to run, but his legs just aren't there. You can see him point at his man he should track and just lets him go. Barron should be nailing him and he doesn't, but situation arises as Barron is having to travel distance out to a player to make a last ditch tackle. He then should be getting back into position when Barton goes out, but he just doesn't make it back. Souttar again caught in no man's land. Goal 4: @5:18 worst of lot, and most obvious. The first three goals here are all bad team goals to lose, and Tav is by no means at fault directly, but his inability to run or get back is causing (for me big issues in pulling players out of position to cover for him, creating too many 1 on 1 situations with the CB, where they are left looking like numpties. I know I'm being harsh here, but it's getting to the stage now where it's painful to see. Yeah, you are being harsh, and there’s no real need, tbh. With the the first goal we have Bajrami on his heels waiting for the ball to come to him, then Jefte gets eased past, Propper’s floundering about, Barron and Diomande make hopeless efforts to get back, then as Souttar’s getting beat Tav has to move in and leave his man, or leave a clear shot. 2nd one- on Barron, and Souttar to a lesser degree- shocking pass and Souttar couldn’t keep the attacker on his left foot. Yes, Tav should have made an effort to get back in case the defence held the attack up, or the ball broke out, but neither happened. 3rd one - great goal - shit happens. 4th - horrendous. Position was good, took a look over his shoulder, then just fell asleep. It’s wasn’t that his reaction was slow, it was non-existent. When the poll went up, I said he should stay and could still play an important role, albeit decreasing as we went along. But it’s a real struggle to see any positives. Even the chances he used to put away aren’t going in for him. I think getting taken off last night was Clement telling him times up - it won’t be immediate, but has started. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPWF 8,943 Posted Friday at 07:21 Share Posted Friday at 07:21 How everyone but the manager can see that he’s done is baffling. He needs taken out the team, not only for the good of our season, but for himself. Things are going to get toxic for him very soon and regardless of how he’s playing now he doesn’t deserve that. RS4_wul and gmcf 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geronimoo 1,574 Posted Friday at 09:20 Share Posted Friday at 09:20 2 hours ago, Trooblue said: Agree with all of this - most of it was clear in the stadium. Been watching him play like this for the past two years, and it's demoralising to witness. Then there's the impact of his losing mentality on the squad. It's long past time for him to be dropped, but we knew if he didn't leave in the summer he would be (more or less) a fixture in the team. We needed a clean break from the losers. Most of them left in the summer, but Tav is still hanging about like a bad smell. Trooblue 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camshy 818 Posted Friday at 11:03 Share Posted Friday at 11:03 My loyalty is with Rangers and not a player regardless of how well they have done. Sure he's scored goals and has shown great energy however Tav should have been out the team some time ago......he looks like he is running on mud and his awareness , football IQ , positioning , passing. It's all way below standard. His time is up and if Clement can't see that then clearly his time is up as well......he just doesn't know it yet. crazy bob swollenbaws 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger 9,048 Posted Friday at 11:40 Share Posted Friday at 11:40 Just saw the 4th goal again. Lyon are attacking down our left hand side. Tav points at something - fuck knows what - he then looks at Fafana fucking twice yet Fafana still nips in behind him to score He cant play another minute Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue72 1,237 Posted Friday at 11:58 Share Posted Friday at 11:58 People saying Tav should be dropped completely are over reacting. But it’s clear he hasn’t the pace for the big games anymore. I really hope the transition to reduce his minutes goes well, he’s been excellent for us over a number of years and deserves a decent send off. graeme_4 and esquire8 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TamCoopz 20,070 Posted Friday at 12:00 Share Posted Friday at 12:00 1 minute ago, Blue72 said: People saying Tav should be dropped completely are over reacting. But it’s clear he hasn’t the pace for the big games anymore. I really hope the transition to reduce his minutes goes well, he’s been excellent for us over a number of years and deserves a decent send off. They’re definitely not esquire8 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy bob swollenbaws 1,935 Posted Friday at 12:02 Share Posted Friday at 12:02 3 minutes ago, Blue72 said: People saying Tav should be dropped completely are over reacting. But it’s clear he hasn’t the pace for the big games anymore. I really hope the transition to reduce his minutes goes well, he’s been excellent for us over a number of years and deserves a decent send off. So Tav is bigger than the club. Gotcha! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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