Vwbear 399 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, cr3_bear said: I am not stating that , I am stated they needed a proper rollicking , they should have been sent home and told to come in earlier the next morning and evaluate where they went wrong and how to improve , this team probably needed a lift at stages this season, I am sure the last thing on warburton mind was a karaoke And a curry Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr3_bear 14,892 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Turnberry18 said: If Warburton had a karaoke then I'd be surprised, because it would be contradictory to the methods we have seen so far. I personally think it was unwise, but Ally would have had his reasons, and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and say that it had something to do with squad morale, particularly in young and inexperienced players. That's fair enough mate , you can have your opinion . I think it was a horrific decision Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vwbear 399 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 After losing that ramsdens final the club should have refunded the fans not put on a party it is a disgrace anyone still defending this clown needs there head examined Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,190 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 41 minutes ago, The Dude said: Loyalty? I know we're big on demanding it from players and staff but reluctant to repay the favour but sometimes it can be a big things Understanding of the various off field goings on at the time? Ever been in a situation where your employer is on the brink of admin? I have. It's fucking horrible. Not knowing if I'll get paid, have a job soon, etc. The last thing on my mind was performing at the best of my capabilities. C'mon dude, they were sportsmen, every sportsman should want to win on the day, they had their concerns but I don't see how it would effect their game, this is us getting back to excuses Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,815 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 20 minutes ago, The Dude said: Take a look back and see the comment I replied to with my initial Gullane comment. No one has made any comparisons of anyone's training and fitness regimes. Well except you. Ah right got you now. You agree that the duds team who lost the final were lazy bastards too. Righto. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 1 minute ago, ritchieshearercaldow said: C'mon dude, they were sportsmen, every sportsman should want to win on the day, they had their concerns but I don't see how it would effect their game, this is us getting back to excuses You don't see where wondering if you'll soon be out of a job can affect someone's performance? When it was me (Comet going down the tubes) it had a massive effect on my job, not to mention life away from work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 22 minutes ago, Turnberry18 said: Pity it wasn't raining, he could have got an umbrella out. The importance people put on the demeanour of managers on the sidelines is laughable at times. Ally's demeanour was totally the wrong message to send out to the players on the park and the fans. As a player and manager of our great club he should have known better. Given his character and skills in the media makes it even more surprisingf he did not attempt to gee the team or the fans up. You are probably the only one who will disagree with my comment and suggest ally's complete lack of interaction with the team he managed on the park was constructive to good management. (Your joke about the umbrella was quite good) Turnberry18 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Ranger 3,195 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 IMO as a Rangers goal scoring legend Ally should always be made welcome at Ibrox but he should play no part in our title celebrations. The day is about celebrating the achievements of the current team and playing staff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,190 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 6 minutes ago, The Dude said: You don't see where wondering if you'll soon be out of a job can affect someone's performance? When it was me (Comet going down the tubes) it had a massive effect on my job, not to mention life away from work. You can't compare working in Comet to being a top class footballer, most knew they could walk and get a contract elsewhere, maybe not on as big wages but they were not heading for the brew. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 As Ally wasn't the abject failure that the majority of us think he was - maybe the bedwetters can tell us why he hasn't been snapped up by another club. I mean ffs, Liverpool were reduced to replacing Rodgers with Klopp, at Chelsea we had Mourinho out and them having to scrape the barrel with bringing in Hiddink....Neville has just been sacked by Valencia - a perfect opportunity for Sciaf to get back into management and show the footballing world that it wasn't him that was the problem (it was the board and conditions that he had to toil under). Just a thought.... Vwbear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vwbear 399 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 15 minutes ago, Virtuoso said: As Ally wasn't the abject failure that the majority of us think he was - maybe the bedwetters can tell us why he hasn't been snapped up by another club. I mean ffs, Liverpool were reduced to replacing Rodgers with Klopp, at Chelsea we had Mourinho out and them having to scrape the barrel with bringing in Hiddink....Neville has just been sacked by Valencia - a perfect opportunity for Sciaf to get back into management and show the footballing world that it wasn't him that was the problem (it was the board and conditions that he had to toil under). Just a thought.... He won't have big bad charels green at valencia or hateley sneaking about behind his back ??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 15 minutes ago, Virtuoso said: As Ally wasn't the abject failure that the majority of us think he was - maybe the bedwetters can tell us why he hasn't been snapped up by another club. I mean ffs, Liverpool were reduced to replacing Rodgers with Klopp, at Chelsea we had Mourinho out and them having to scrape the barrel with bringing in Hiddink....Neville has just been sacked by Valencia - a perfect opportunity for Sciaf to get back into management and show the footballing world that it wasn't him that was the problem (it was the board and conditions that he had to toil under). Just a thought.... Perhaps he and Lennon will team up and become some club's new 'dream team'. Ally was a dreadful manager, our journey back to the top is well underway and the only REAL celebrations we should be having this season is when we lift the Scottish Cup. Fans getting excited is one thing but all this talk about celebrating winning a league we should have won last season is total nonsense dreamt up by the media to sell copy. MW had one objective this season, objective met, move on. Scottish cup will be a bonus and is indeed worth popping the corks for. eejay the dj and BLUEDIGNITY 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 It's interesting, especially when you read the thoughts about him on threads like this, to hear all the nine-in-row boys. many of the them went through the high intensity of World Cup semi finals, European campaigns, big time finals for Rangers, and all sorts of achievements and adversity. Strong characters like John Brown, Terry Butcher, and Jimmy Nicholl etc, and the thing that crops up time and again, whenever they offer anecdotes about that period, is that the same two names come up time and again, McCoist and Durrant, who reputedly lifted the dressing room at crucial times- these are battle hardened pros and yet a couple of young guys lifted them off the deck at crucial times. The man is a winner by nature; he has a remarkable record of personal honours, and club honours. This is a guy who was known for his ability to recover from injuries in a peculiarly quick time and yet has been accused of being money orientated in his dedication to Rangersl he couldn't get off the treatment table quick enough-many speculated that his abilities of quick recovery was possibly down to his natural optimistic outlook. He is one of the greats for this club and should be celebrated as such. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,660 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 6 minutes ago, siddiqi_drinker said: Perhaps he and Lennon will team up and become some club's new 'dream team'. Ally was a dreadful manager, our journey back to the top is well underway and the only REAL celebrations we should be having this season is when we lift the Scottish Cup. Fans getting excited is one thing but all this talk about celebrating winning a league we should have won last season is total nonsense dreamt up by the media to sell copy. MW had one objective this season, objective met, move on. Scottish cup will be a bonus and is indeed worth popping the corks for. Says it all really ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Turnberry18 said: It's interesting, especially when you read the thoughts about him on threads like this, to hear all the nine-in-row boys. many of the them went through the high intensity of World Cup semi finals, European campaigns, big time finals for Rangers, and all sorts of achievements and adversity. Strong characters like John Brown, Terry Butcher, and Jimmy Nicholl etc, and the thing that crops up time and again, whenever they offer anecdotes about that period, is that the same two names come up time and again, McCoist and Durrant, who reputedly lifted the dressing room at crucial times- these battle hardened pros and yet a couple of young guys lifted them off the deck at crucial times. The man is a winner by nature; he has a remarkable record of personal honours, and club honours. This is a guy who was known for his ability to recover from injuries in a peculiarly quick time and yet has been accused of being money orientated in his dedication to Rangersl he couldn't get off the treatment table quick enough-many speculated that his abilities of quick recovery was possibly down to his natural optimistic outlook. He is one of the greats for this club and should be celebrated as such. You seem to be unable to separate his standing as a player against his failure as a manager and someone who financially raped us (because he didn't do walking away ). Take the Soooper tinted specs off eh... SeparateEntityMyArse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Just now, Virtuoso said: You seem to be unable to separate his standing as a player against his failure as a manager and someone who financially raped us (because he didn't do walking away ). Take the Soooper tinted specs off eh... The irony. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, Turnberry18 said: The irony. Please point out where I was being ironic? I've said time and time again you can't take away what he achieved and for what he did for us a player - that doesn't mean the same applies for his time as manager and his subsequent actions. Bears r us 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Just now, Virtuoso said: Please point out where I was being ironic? I've said time and time again you can't take away what he achieved and for what he did for us a player - that doesn't mean the same applies for his time as manager and his subsequent actions. Have you said that to anyone else with an opposite opinion? That in itself explains your irony if you haven't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmcf 34,336 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Not for me. As someone previously posted , this is Mark Warburton , his management team and the current players moment . Bears r us 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 6 minutes ago, Turnberry18 said: Have you said that to anyone else with an opposite opinion? That in itself explains your irony if you haven't. I've mentioned it on the countless Super Ally Legend / Ally Failure threads. I can separate the player and manager - something you are either unable to do / or refuse to do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Just now, Virtuoso said: I've mentioned it on the countless Super Ally Legend / Ally Failure threads. I can separate the player and manager - something you are either unable to do / or refuse to do. I look forward to seeing your retort next time he is referred to as dud. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RD.1872 890 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Any little respect I had for him in the end went after he decided to bleed us out another £400k after leaving, all while the club were on it's knees. Not bad for someone who doesn't read his contracts... K.A.I and AllyDawson72 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figo 91 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 If he buys a ticket on the last day he can join in the bouncy. His actions both good and bad will stick with him a while yet Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 9 minutes ago, Turnberry18 said: I look forward to seeing your retort next time he is referred to as dud. I'll never defend his position as a manager and I'll be honest, although I've never denied his 'Super' status as a player - that status has been seriously tainted in my eyes due to his subsequent behaviour (nothing to do with his managerial abilities). So, why do you refuse to separate the player from the manager? 8 minutes ago, The Dude said: Or Sciaf... That's a separate issue entirely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DESGER 241 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 It's a no from me! He can fuck right off as far as I'm concerned! Going to be a long long time(if at all) till the mention of his name doesn't make me utterly depressed at how little I now think of him!! KBOO72 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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