Bears r us 30,796 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 51 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: Don’t think the SFA have any say on what the clubs and the SPFL are arguing about. In a sensible world you would maybe go to the SFA to hold the enquiry but do any of us believe they could be impartial and above board. As for the points raised there is more than enough for an enquiry. I was not sure about the SFA, I assumed they were in charge if football in Scotland and would be a step above the SPFL, but I understand what you are saying. I agree there is enough for an inquiry, but if the clubs will not vote for it, even with what is there for them to see then I suppose we have to look to somewhere to get it resolved. The cost of taking it to court is bit of a concern but I assume if we won we would get the costs back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,522 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, coopsleftboot said: You would think that would be the case wouldn't you. But when Scottish football clubs know that all they've ever got to look forward to is survival, maybe a promotion or a cup run and they're given a vote, then all their ever going to do is vote for what's best for they're own survival. They genuinely don't care about the big boys fighting over corporate governance...so long as their being fed. Any change at the top will likely mean diddly-squat to them as nothing is likely to ever change. Path of least resistance, especially when you're getting your titbits and a pat on the head. Yes, but that's life in general. Citizens do exactly as you say with the government. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, HOPLITE said: Fat McGuire/Martin is as bitter as they come, as is that Hugh McDonald 1st thing he did was dismiss it as a nothing to see here report I would bet they never read it and have been briefed by someone before the show as to what was in it, did you see the 5/6 bullet points they put up right at the start utter nonsense. Every part of the mhedia will twist and lie about the report over the next week or two, to suit their own agenda's, then again we all knew that is how this would pan out after all its Rangers they hate us with a passion we were never going to get a fair hearing with the taig infested mhedia. Remember when they used to say we were the establishment club They were kidding all along with that shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,882 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Bears r us said: I was not sure about the SFA, I assumed they were in charge if football in Scotland and would be a step above the SPFL, but I understand what you are saying. I agree there is enough for an inquiry, but if the clubs will not vote for it, even with what is there for them to see then I suppose we have to look to somewhere to get it resolved. The cost of taking it to court is bit of a concern but I assume if we won we would get the costs back. If we don’t get the inquiry mate, I think we have to go to court or whatever. I believe we have drawn the line in the sand. We cannot back down or we will look like fools. Our stature is at stake here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,643 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 28 minutes ago, Blue Nosed Babe said: You may find that there is a QC and another Advocate. Is that for us or the spfl? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,796 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 49 minutes ago, bornabear said: The whistleblower thing is Rangers' ace card, no need to use it just yet. I hope you are right about that mate. I am still staying as positive as I can, mainly because so many on here are confident, I am happy to go with that view at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,532 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Why wouldn’t clubs vote for an independent investigation? other than shared costs, what would be the harm? Really- what harm would it actually do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,796 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hadron Collider said: If we don’t get the inquiry mate, I think we have to go to court or whatever. I believe we have drawn the line in the sand. We cannot back down or we will look like fools. Our stature is at stake here. Yes I agree, I was not sure whether we had to go through football appeals first, but it seems I am not right with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog 10,673 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Just now, KeyserSoze said: Why wouldn’t clubs vote for an independent investigation? other than shared costs, what would be the harm? Really- what harm would it actually do Have asked this before, it would do no harm at all. It would be harmful not to have one. It would leave a lot of stuff unanswered and a stench hanging over the game to say no to one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, eejay the dj said: Remember when they used to say we were the establishment club The bastards were probably plotting, even back then, and the pope's visit rubber stamped their ambition. We thought the Vatican led tims in Scotland were under control, but recent event s prove otherwise,the pope had set out the agenda, the 10 year "reign" of Cheryl Blair's control of Labour policy cemented it. Unfotunately too many gullible Scots Unionists fans were led to vote Labour and hate the one Unionist party, that would have kept us united. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robmc1 4,741 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Dave Hedgehog said: It would leave a lot of stuff unanswered and a stench hanging over the game to say no to one. Unfortunately that’s been the case since 2012 tbh DH... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domthenbud 899 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 hour ago, bornabear said: Corporate law mate, which has many powers. Company House could be all over this like a rash. Cheers mate. I had the wrong court in mind. And I’ve never been there. Honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOPLITE 221 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, eejay the dj said: Remember when they used to say we were the establishment club They were kidding all along with that shite A lot of the mutants still think that way mate they suffer badly from an inferiority complex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornabear 6,202 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Domthenbud said: Cheers mate. I had the wrong court in mind. And I’ve never been there. Honest. You TRIED too hard there mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,722 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 47 minutes ago, Jb85 said: Imagine we didn't have a rep on the board this season. They'd have gotten away with it big time. At least now we have a fighting chance to change that. Folk on here wanted him to resign too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,913 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Just listened to the Heart and Hand daily update and these guys are pretty cool about everything. picking up on all the miss deeds that the usual suspects glossed over and Rangers have done everything exactly right so far if this is heading to court. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vision 16,729 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Am not willing to wait 4 decades for these cunts to get found guilty again, get them out now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Folk on here wanted him to resign too. To be fair, most folk on here tend to go for the easier targets like our team, our managers, our administration,or even fellow supporters, rather than accepting they've been fucked over by the various authorities in politics and sport now for 2 decades, focusing their frustrations on our club and fellow supporters, even pretending staunchness and allegiance to traditional values is the way forward. Call these cunts out for what they are, imposters and cheats, and raise the banners high saying so. We stand here, we can do no other, and the cry will always be "No Surrender". Let's start showing it consistently where it matters. Scotland is now totally corrupt. Shout it loud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,522 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, pcbear said: Just listened to the Heart and Hand daily update and these guys are pretty cool about everything. picking up on all the miss deeds that the usual suspects glossed over and Rangers have done everything exactly right so far if this is heading to court. I would caution against expectation that this heads to court, even if the independent investigation does not take place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billscott 2,463 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said: Have asked this before, it would do no harm at all. It would be harmful not to have one. It would leave a lot of stuff unanswered and a stench hanging over the game to say no to one. it is clear why they dont want a investigation they are happy with the corrupt people who run our game all the clubs against this are run by fenians Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, McEwan's Lager said: I would caution against expectation that this heads to court, even the independent investigation does not take place. Wee telephone calls with threats and/or bribes will still be going on the now between the Scottish football authorities and all Scottish clubs not called Rangers. Time to call it out big time. Is just a question whether our club or our "staunch" fans have the balls to carry it through. It really is time for the fans to mobilise in support of our club and to highligtht this, condemn it and use the power of our club and the Blue Pound. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,643 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 58 minutes ago, esquire8 said: Supposedly it's to remove Robertson from the board with immediate effect. He was going to be stepping down in the summer anyway. Wonder when we will hear from MacLennan on this? Plus the fact the SPFL never got a copy sent to them yet released a statement saying they have looked at it half an hour after us giving it to the clubs with the dossier clearly stating it's private and has legal implications. They've dug themselves a bit deeper in that hole...... I laughed at spfl rapid response and I note not a word from anyone since. If it wasn't enough it would be laughed at and ridiculed from the sfa place men in the press Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie0202 12,272 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Any chance of a summary of today's events please? Been working from home all day so been out the loop today. Thanks in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billscott 2,463 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, tannerall said: Wee telephone calls with threats and/or bribes will still be going on the now between the Scottish football authorities and all Scottish clubs not called Rangers. Time to call it out big time. Is just a question whether our club or our "staunch" fans have the balls to carry it through. It really is time for the fans to mobilise in support of our club. as i have said repeatedly the club and fans should stop giving these cunts the money watch the away games on tv or is you must have your day out and piss up still go in the bus and watch the game in the local gers club/pub our money is the only thing these clubs want well fucking starve them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollok-bear 7,537 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jamie0202 said: Any chance of a summary of today's events please? Been working from home all day so been out the loop today. Thanks in advance. If u have been working from home then u should have been able to keep up to date with this lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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