Tristan 11 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Yes.About as 'old fashioned' as you get.I knew nothing about him when we signed him, and was 'reliably' informed that he was a left wingerCue X Files music n that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseyjones 3,009 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Is Weiss actually an out and out right winger or is this an attempt by some to justify their favourite player's pish performances?Genuine question as when we signed him, the general consensus was that he was a left winger and our first out and out left winger since McCann. Now all of a sudden because of two runs from the right in his first match 3 months ago, he's an out and out right winger being shafted by his manager on the leftThe only person who thinks he's a left winger is Smith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 He's wasted on the left, but i don't know if i'd put his bad form all down to Walter. I get the impression Weiss may have a bit of an attitude problem, the way he lashed out today was bloody stupid.Although i perhaps am being a bit unfair there, and i'd still have him in the team in his correct position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delamonty 992 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Weiss switches regularly to the right.As for the Easter road match. Kenny's goal from Weiss-Davis-Weiss came from the left where Weiss was instrumental. But I get the point. :-)I'd switch Nasey with Weiss. Naisey has proven he can play either side. Weiss has some real talent.... So give him a run on the right.Here's a point though. Big Kyle has played out of position as well. But look @ his impact today. Far more than Vladimir. I think Weiss is reaching the 'overrated' level now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 The only person who thinks he's a left winger is Smith.Agreed.I was under the impression he was a right winger? I remember thinking/saying at the time if we managed to get Eagles too then that's two natural wingers to compliment our midfield shape. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristan 11 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 We:-)I'd switch Nasey with Weiss. Naisey has proven he can play either sideHe really hasn't. Have people just totally forgotten last season and how poor Naismith was? Hint for why he's doing so well this season - he isn't being forced to play on the left anymore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 I knew nothing about him when we signed him, and was 'reliably' informed that he was a left wingerCue X Files music n thatYou were informed wrongly.I can confidently say that I've never seen him play a full game on the left hand side, until he met Walter Smith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davie2909 21 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 He is a right Winger so thats where he should be played. Hopefully Wylde or even if we sign Kerkar then one of them will be played on the Left Wing.I totally agree with the OP on this we need to stop playing him out of position or we wont get the best out of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amac9 2,060 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Vladimir Weiss is a RW and that is where he should be played. When he is played on the left he cuts inside and narrows the game and leaves us with no width on the left. He is a natural winger who gets to the by line and whips crosses in but we waste him by playing him on the left.In saying that he does not deserve to start at RW ahead of Naismith. Naismith has scored more goals, had more assists and has been playing very well from there and should be ahead of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristan 11 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 He is a right Winger so thats where he should be played. Hopefully Wylde or even if we sign Kerkar then one of them will be played on the Left Wing.I totally agree with the OP on this we need to stop playing him out of position or we wont get the best out of him.And where does Naismith play? He's not going to get a game up front when Jelavic is fitHe has been by far (imo) our most impressive player this season (much moreso than Miller who despite his goals, has been anonymous in quite a few games) playing from the rightIf it's a choice between him and Weiss for the right wing, Naismith wins every time for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 18,769 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 He should try and use his left foot more often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Sasac 164 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 If we sign Kerkar, and when Jelavic returns, there is no way we can play both McCulloch and Edu. We would have 4 or 5 players fighting for the left wing spot every week if they did start, with that being the only position available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBOO72 4,372 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 He is a right Winger so thats where he should be played. Hopefully Wylde or even if we sign Kerkar then one of them will be played on the Left Wing.I totally agree with the OP on this we need to stop playing him out of position or we wont get the best out of him.perhaps we should give weiss a shot on the right and see how many goals and assists he can produce , and see if his form improves . i totally agree that we are not getting the best out of him and im sure he is getting a little pissed off aswell . cant imagine him being happy at being hooked at half time today . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amac9 2,060 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 One thing that he really has to improve on is his attitude.As soon as Lafferty came on he worked his socks off and showed the attitude that is needed at Rangers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delamonty 992 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 He really hasn't. Have people just totally forgotten last season and how poor Naismith was? Hint for why he's doing so well this season - he isn't being forced to play on the left anymoreBut.. that was last season. This is this season and Naismtih has been great all over the pitch. Put it this way, We'll gain a lot with Weiss on the right and still gain with Nasey on the left. Best player in the SPL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Definately NOT in favour of dropping Naismith from the right for Weiss. Naismith has been one of our best - in fact my player of the season so far and has mainly played on the right. People are asking us to move him, to accomodate a LOAN player. If he cant hack it on the left play Lafferty (how he has improved!!) and Weiss will just have to wait for his chance on the right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff 245 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 He's a fcuking right winger and that is where he should play. We finally get in a proper winger and the manager play's him out of position - this is one thing I will not miss when Walter Smith leaves, although there is a good chance Ally McCoist will carry it on.Weiss isn't getting away with it either. He needs to learn to start performing, he's just not delivering the goods. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 He's a fcuking right winger and that is where he should play. We finally get in a proper winger and the manager play's him out of position - this is one thing I will not miss when Walter Smith leaves, although there is a good chance Ally McCoist will carry it on.Weiss isn't getting away with it either. He needs to learn to start performing, he's just not delivering the goods.Would you drop or move Naismith to accomodate Weiss. Or completely reshape the midfield to put him there ? I dont think its enough just to say Smith should play him there - its playing him there AND accomodating our other good players in 'our' system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 He was shite today,and smith was right to bring him off. plus he was on a yellow card,and when the st mirren players were starting to cause trouble, wiess was falling for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Sasac 164 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Unless there is a suspension or injury to lee or Edu, Weiss will continue on the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff 245 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Naismith has performed on the left this season, he has also played up top. No reason to completely change the team to accomodate Weiss.Weiss - Davis - Edu - NaismithWeiss - Davis - Edu - Lafferty_______Naismith__Miller_______Pretty simple. This playing McCulloch and Edu in the middle of the park in the SPL is a fcuking joke, it does not work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaltersGotStyle 160 Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Naismith has performed on the left this season, he has also played up top. No reason to completely change the team to accomodate Weiss.Weiss - Davis - Edu - NaismithWeiss - Davis - Edu - Lafferty_______Naismith__Miller_______Pretty simple. This playing McCulloch and Edu in the middle of the park in the SPL is a fcuking joke, it does not work.Some would argue it does work though, as we have not lost a game all season domestically... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 i watched real madrid the other night and thier two wide men played with the strong foot on the inside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordo7 147 Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 I agree that the McCulloch and Edu partnership does not work, and tbh, I don't think we need to be playing 2 defensive midfielders in the SPL anyway. I would play Naismith on the left, give Weiss a kick up the arse and give him a go on the right, with Davis and McCulloch/Edu in CM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 It's common practice for wingers to switch flanks, preferable when we do have two natural wingers though. The same argument used to rage about Beasley, should be played on the right etc etc, but he himself turned round and said he prefers playing on the left.As for Weiss, he should be playing for the team, and to me he just doesn't seem to be putting any effort in and looks totally disinterested at this moment in time, he himself should buck up his own ideas and irrespective if where he is asked to play he should give it 100% effort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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