Jonnyjardine 20 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Had enough of draconian measures being dished out this year. The footballteam should not suffer because if this mess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandblue 366 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Think point deduction would be too harsh Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianBacon 2,088 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Completely OTT response to an administrative fuck-up that has nothing whatsoever to do with the team on the pitch.Many will think I'm talking about the Elgin ticket story....some might realise I'm talking about the OTT Draconian punishments dished out to The Rangers just a few short months ago.See what I did there? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 We're in paedo free Div3 - why would we want to see any of our sfl members punished.We may well be in Div3, but we're leagues above those scum that we left behind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Completely OTT response to an administrative fuck-up that has nothing whatsoever to do with the team on the pitch.Many will think I'm talking about the Elgin ticket story....some might realise I'm talking about the OTT Draconian punishments dished out to The Rangers just a few short months ago.See what I did there? So CB you don't agree with an unlawful 18month transfer ban, relegation of three divisions, (the local sunday pub team), and deduction of titles. Poor elgin, they've been put in a unique position that no other club has, ever. They are playing the world famour RFC - and over sold their tickets.Wha's like us.......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanh91 75 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Total disgrace. Just fine them 25% of the gate receipts and have done with it. Will teach them for their cheek Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Atheist 178 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Let them keep their points.The team shouldnt be punished for a mistake by the board. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianBacon 2,088 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 So CB you don't agree with an unlawful 18month transfer ban, relegation of three divisions, (the local sunday pub team), and deduction of titles. Poor elgin, they've been put in a unique position that no other club has, ever. They are playing the world famour RFC - and over sold their tickets.Wha's like us..........Got it in one.The SFL are repeating the Draconian actions of the SPL.Wha's like them right enough...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Got it in one.The SFL are repeating the Draconian actions of the SPL.Having an enquiry into an incident is hardly draconian. Or is there more I don't know? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madina 3,817 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Good enough for them if they are docked points. Im sure if the roles were reversed and we had sold so many extra tickets leading to a postponement then we would be hounded by all and sundry. Had it been 10 or 20 extra tickets that could be excusable but over 1,000!! Nah thats a big mistake to make Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 No fine or points deduction but made to sit on the naughty step. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers#1 5,459 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 If genuine mistake, compensation for both sets of fans out of pocket.If down to greed, compensation for both sets of fans out of pocket, heavy fine for the individuals responsible and loss of position within club, for risking fans safety. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougied123 222 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I obviously differ in my views from most, I think a points deduction would be more acceptable than a heavy fine. The need the money more than they need the points, although they do need both. At least a points deduction would present less a chance of innocent parties losing their jobs as a result of cutting their cloth to suit their fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVB 2,560 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 This whole episode has made me doubt Nat Frasers innocence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjmcmeechan 28 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 deciding the punishment before hearing the facts, that ring any bells?seem's to be the journo's way in Scottich football.let's wait & see what actually happened first Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markybear 136 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 No points deductionNo tainted title.If it was an spl club I'd want them demoted Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Can we wait on the facts and the findings of the SFL investigation before we act like the Scottish press. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionRedHMS 190 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Hope not.No malice involved,just some amateurish behaviour. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kplfishtank 4,656 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Director admits it was out of greed. No regard for fans so I have no sympathy for them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozblue 4,331 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 It will be interesting to see what punishment Elgin get for this.No matter what the outcome is, I think their chairman will have his arse in Tatters, so to speak Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepeter 5,627 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 How did the oversell come to light? I thought Elgin realised they'd oversold and contacted the authorities... If so, they've not tried to profit from us, they've made a mistake. Regardless, docking points is harsh, even if they're found guilty. Have we become so bitter about maximum penalties being demanded for us that we're taking it out on the first available club? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 EMBARRASSED Elgin City director Martyn Hunter last night spoke of his shame at the “greed and stupidity” that left the Highlanders’ historic clash with Rangers in tatters.The club safety officer is the first official from Borough Briggs to speak out after police forced Sunday’s top-of-the-table televised clash to be called off.The police stepped in when it emerged around 1200 tickets over the ground’s capacity had been shifted.Hunter revealed he was the one who alerted Grampian Police after being informed of the extra briefs that had been sold and said he felt physically sick when the game was later axed.Elgin are set to be hammered by the SFL today, with a points deduction among the sanctions open to League bosses intent on making an example of the club.Speaking to Record Sport after a weekend from hell, Hunter said: “I am utterly embarrassed about the whole thing.“The reputation of Elgin City has taken a hell of a dunt and I was absolutely shattered when the police took the decision.“I knew nothing of it and it completely floored me. I took it really badly. I was utterly gutted.“The work that had gone into this at every stage involving the security people, the support we’ve had from Rangers – I thought we’d covered every contingency.“I’ve never known anything like it and it was down to greed and stupidity. Paul McMullan admits Elgin stars were gutted after Rangers match was axed over ticket disaster“But regardless of the motives, we know the result. We don’t know the exact number of tickets over the capacity that were sold but it was over our safety limit and that’s all that matters.“The trouble with smaller grounds like Elgin is that the capacity of the ground is always under review.“Work was being done for the game that could have increased the capacity so tickets were perhaps printed on an estimate.“I’m not saying I wasn’t involved with that side of it. But certainly more tickets got into the system, put it that way.“We’re still evaluating what exactly happened. Could people lose their jobs over this? I haven’t thought that far ahead.“I was absolutely gutted on Friday. I had chaired the pre-op meeting on behalf of the club in my role as a safety officer.“We all left that meeting very happy that we were in control of the situation and looking forward to a terrific game on the Sunday.“That meeting took place on Friday at 12.30pm.“But shortly after I discovered some tickets had been sold that hadn’t gone through the office.“I immediately contacted the police to say there was a problem.They then returned for a set of discussions and everyone knows the outcome.“I was informed that tickets had been sold but I wouldn’t want to expand on that.“I hope people respect my position on that. I told the police as soon as I was made aware.“I felt like being sick on the spot but health and safety is paramount to everything in my mind.“I thought it was compromised so the police were called and they did the right thing in cancelling the game.”Hunter now wants to try to rebuild his club’s reputation and is trying to ensure fans are reimbursed as a first priority.But as the SFL drew their investigation to a close the City official knows his club are set to be hit with at least a hefty fine.He said: “I haven’t given much thought to the consequences because right now I’m thinking only of the disappointed fans.“We’ve staged meetings where the focus has been on reimbursing the fans who were left disappointed.“We’ve also got a game to play against Rangers on Sunday and we’ve got to pull ourselves together and see that this doesn’t happen again.”http://www.<No links to this website>/sport/football/football-news/embarrassed-elgin-director-martyn-hunter-1458808 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzl82 2 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Points deduction would be harsh but rules are rules Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry handsome 629 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Please show some common sense SFL.They tried to maximize their income as the greatest show on earth was coming to town.A severe censure and nothing else please.What good does taking money out of a clubs coffers do when the club needs as much money as it can to function. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozblue 4,331 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 A bit off topic, but can anybody tell me why Elgin City got stripped of a title and any further punishment they received?I'm normally on the ball when it comes to stuff like this, but I can't remember the story of this one.Thanks in advance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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