Time to get a few things off my chest

[TBKisjustaTOY 45]

*****INTERMISSION*****

*****Lovely pic of Jenny Agutter in 'An American Werewolf In London'*****

Carry on......

much better than the one I posted...

On topic for The Dude your name and avatar gives off a "Jeff Bridges" chilled persona, which the OP doesn't exactly reflect.

[*Manticore* 1,893]

I wasn't sure who you meant. precisely. I just assume most people are as stubborn as me.

OK, we can start again.

People don't necessarily look at lyrics and take things literally at a sing song.

I'm a non believer but sing GSTQ. And as for my diminutive friend, Joseph......

And it needs to be 1941 or the song wouldn't rhyme, you shouldn't read so much......

[*Manticore* 1,893]

*****INTERMISSION*****

*****Lovely pic of Jenny Agutter in 'An American Werewolf In London'*****

Carry on......

<faints>

[Inigo 32,600]

<faints>

Excellent.

The Dude, listen while he's unconscious. Stop arguing with him. You are stubborn, but so is he and he's a fucking psychopath with it. Just nod and smile as if he makes sense and we can maybe wind this thread up.

Right, lets wake him up. Someone throw a glass of pish on him

[The Dude 20,026]

Excellent.

The Dude, listen while he's unconscious. Stop arguing with him. You are stubborn, but so is he and he's a fucking psychopath with it. Just nod and smile as if he makes sense and we can maybe wind this thread up.

Right, lets wake him up. Someone throw a glass of pish on him

fuck it, I'm going for a smoke then a kip.

[Inigo 32,600]

fuck it, I'm going for a smoke then a kip.

Cool, but stay off the jazzy ones.

[Doughnut001 7]

Aye with a shillelagh Aiden.

Cool. If the people damaging the club can't say a single thing in their defence other than random namecalling, it proves undoubtedly how wrong they are.

So feel free to call me whatever you like. I'm a real rangers fan wheras you're obviously someone who doesn't mind damaging the club as long as they can sing about a battle that happened hundreds of years ago in a foreign country.

[*Manticore* 1,893]

Cool. If the people damaging the club can't say a single thing in their defence other than random namecalling, it proves undoubtedly how wrong they are.

So feel free to call me whatever you like. I'm a real rangers fan wheras you're obviously someone who doesn't mind damaging the club as long as they can sing about a battle that happened hundreds of years ago in a foreign country.

What you are is fucking demented ya roaster.

[*Manticore* 1,893]

fuck it, I'm going for a smoke then a kip.

<nods> <smiles>

[The Dude 20,026]

OK, we can start again.

People don't necessarily look at lyrics and take things literally at a sing song.

I'm a non believer but sing GSTQ. And as for my diminutive friend, Joseph......

And it needs to be 1941 or the song wouldn't rhyme, you shouldn't read so much......

C'mon Manti, do you not think thats a bit weak?

Anyway, I'm going for a smoke and a kip. Cheers guys who indulged me in a bit of debate, restored a wee bit faith in this place. and those who want rid of me? as long as admin dont ban me during the night then I think I might just stick around a bit longer...

[davy1shoe 63]

The Bellend , sorry The Dude.

Why dont you make up a new email and go back to Follow Follow its quite simple.

There yahoo hotmail gmail etc. all free you can go back to being a cunt there.

[TheCutch 4,340]

Well my nightshift reading usually consists of a skim through the BD and then off to OT for a laugh at the crazy threads.

Thanks to this one, I never made to OT tonight.

[shankillblue1 349]

You could always fuck off and join ff along with the rest of the handwringers!

Are you really fat bhoy?

[CaptainofIndustry 921]

How predictable. Another pro-Mark Dingwall post. Yawn.

[shankillblue1 349]

but you'll agree its about the proscribed UVF as much as the old? And if singing about the IRA is glamourising terrorists then the same applies to the UVF?

What a load of bollocks! You support the wrong team. Then again maybe not!

[EatDolphins 5,357]

Dude, I agree with your points about the fans groups and the attitudes on this forum, which I can't say I'm entirely innocent of. But I can't agree about Celtics history of unpunished child abuse. In my opinion they must never be allowed to forget it.

[Steelydan1690 20,228]

Man up ya fucking fairy

[scarkev 3,540]

There are actually a couple of decent points in amongst that OP.....I do agree there are far too many supporters groups all trying to get their 5 minutes of fame and that in itself can be devisive. We should have one main supporters group with elected spokesmen/chairman etc who speak on behalf of all season ticket holders and any fans outwith who wish to join.

I also agree that on here instead of debating a point or providing a reasoned response some will jump on a post, however that goes both ways.....I have seen some people post an opinion about our performances, matches etc and the same few posters respond with condecending and pointless comments instead of engaging in a discussion and verbalising their counter argument. The whole point of of football forum is to dicuss football but unless its all praise and love-in's some are incapable of entering a discussion.

There are other aspects I don't agree with and the twitter comments about the Celtic game are very very questionable. But hey ho, gave me something to read on the throne this morning so cheers for that.

[Bluepeter9 5,167]

First things first, before anybody bleats and whines about this being in the Bears Den it is relevant in here as it is about the Rangers support in general and posters on here (and other forums). I'm fully aware I'm not exactly the most popular guy on here and this post will no doubt further cement that but theres a few things that are really starting to get on my tits with regards to the supporters of OUR club. So without much further ado lets begin.

Supporters Groups

Where do you guys get off? Whilst I think most of them have their hearts in the right place is there really any need for 6 different supporters groups all wanting their five minutes of fame? Sons of Struth, VB, RST, RSA (X2), UB all make points occasionally that I'm sure most of us will all agree on. Some might not like the leadership of certain groups or the past actions of others but c'mon to fuck guys. Heres a novel idea. Instead of working away in loads of wee groups that the majority (and I do mean the majority) of Rangers fans couldn't give a flying fuck about. You are all pretty much irrelevant to most fans. We see statement after statement with your names attached but theres never any action from any of you. I'd love to see an exhaustive list of achievments of these groups. Do us all a favour. You say you want to help push our club forward and get back to our rightful place at the top table of football? Then put your petty fucking egos aside and work together.

No doubt someone will come along and blame it all on Dingwall. I'm far from a fan of Dingwall but there are others in our support who are just as divisive.

We are Rangers fans. At the end of the day I don't give a fuck about anyones politics, religions or sexual orientation. If they are a bluenose then thats good enough for me. I dont give a flying fuck if you met some no mark Norther Irish Politician for a chat on parades or if you went to great bother to organise a lovely wee publicity stunt that saw your members regularly appear on TV (invariably with nothing more than soundbites which change fuck all) Rangers isn't your wee plaything. She belongs to all of us. and our Fathers, and our Grandfathers. Stop speaking for your 200 members and work together to speak for the majority. Then and only then can we truly affect change at Ibrox.

Harrassment of other Fans

I've only posted hee for about 18 months but in that time I've seen some fantastic posters be forced off the board. Some that I agree with, some that I wouldn't agree with if they told me the time of day, but bluenoses nonetheless. Nobodies opinion is worth more than anyone else. This used to be a pretty decent forum where you could get a decent chat with bears from all walks of lfe and all corners of the globe. Now? Now its turned into a horrific little network of trolls, liars, fantasists and bullies. There are plenty guys on here I regularly disagree with on here (eh 1st_Jan_1994) but never should it descend into personal attacks on posters or in one instance their wifes religious beliefs. I have nothing against anyone telling me I'm wrong and showing me why, Thats the whole point of a forum but when it gets to the point where some posters only real contribution to the board is one word posts calling others 'prick' or 'cunt' or 'fenian' it gets to the point where you wonder why you even bother. If you dont agree with someone debate the point with them dont disregard their opinion and start throwing petty insults around like some fucking 8 year old. Christ, I've even had one poster on here (Resting in my account) bring up an incident from when I was 15/16 (I'm 27 in a few weeks) in an attempt to humiliate me. Sadly it didnt go well for him as after I finally remembered the mildly amusing episode from my school days I went on to share several other highly embarrasing episodes from a similar time. The very fact someone felt the need to bring up something as innocuous as me wearing a snorkel at school for a laugh (and getting plenty I might add)shows me just how highly some of the Rangers support thinks of their 'brethren'.

Child Abuse

Can we just fucking drop this. To make light of child rape in the manner a sizable section of our support do frankly sickens me to the pit of my stomach. Quick hypothetical question to all the parents here. Your child gets raped. Would you be quite happy for people to use it as a point scoring exercise on a FOTTBALL forum or twitter/facebook? What about having 50,000 singing a song essentially mocking the rape of YOUR child? Not like the sound of that? No? Didn't really think so. Its utterly fucking disgusting. Time for another wee story here. One of my closest friends was sexually abused by his/her mothers partner as a child (He's a bear by the way) and this is something that still affects their life to this very minute (25 years after the abuse stopped). If you feel THAT strongly about the cover up that apparently took place at Celtic then make a complaint to the cops. Dont fucking crow about it on twitter like some kind of moral fucking arbiter. You're just a cunt who uses the sexual exploitation of children as a punchline.

Just for reference, some of the other groups currently being/previously investigated for cover up of the abuse of children

The Royal Air Force

The Boys Brigade

The Church of England

ITV

I've never seen a single post on here by any of you pricks who are so opposed to it you need to mention it every third post. But its nothing to do with point scoring. Its almost as if you are obsessed with the thought of child abuse you sick creepy bastards. I truly hope those who I speak about (and you'll know who you are) never have kids ever as I don't know if someone whos thoughts on football instantly turn to child abuse is the kind of person who should EVER be left alone with kids.

Boardroom Stuff

This one will be short and sweet.

Almost none of us have a fucking clue what is going on. Shut the fuck up and stop pretending like you do. If you actually do know what is going on in the boardroom then heres a novel idea. Give us the fucking truth. No soundbites. no teases. no smoke and mirrors. Give us the facts. Who knows, it might even keep you in a job come the end of October.

So, no doubt I've probably pissed most of you off now (I actually planned to make this a LOT longer but decided to stop wasting my time on folk who probably struggle to spell their own name so I'll wrap it up here with a slightly more positive note.

I may get the old ban hammer for this. If so, Its been fun. If not, then I'll happily back up any of the points I've made above.

100% agree - but I don't think that will help your rep!

[Carsons Dog 9,878]

This isn't real life you know

[JimmyCR1 1,523]

So when 40 odd thousand at ibrox are singing BJK you tell them your sob story see if they listen, the internet is a pathetic place at times

[Guardian 4,281]

Someone creating a ranting and raving thread complaining about folk ranting and raving.

How novel

Could you give us a list of things we are allowed to discuss or mention on an Internet forum ?

Shall we PM our posts to you for approval before posting ?

[Bluepeter9 5,167]

There are actually a couple of decent points in amongst that OP.....I do agree there are far too many supporters groups all trying to get their 5 minutes of fame and that in itself can be devisive. We should have one main supporters group with elected spokesmen/chairman etc who speak on behalf of all season ticket holders and any fans outwith who wish to join.

I also agree that on here instead of debating a point or providing a reasoned response some will jump on a post, however that goes both ways.....I have seen some people post an opinion about our performances, matches etc and the same few posters respond with condecending and pointless comments instead of engaging in a discussion and verbalising their counter argument. The whole point of of football forum is to dicuss football but unless its all praise and love-in's some are incapable of entering a discussion.

There are other aspects I don't agree with and the twitter comments about the Celtic game are very very questionable. But hey ho, gave me something to read on the throne this morning so cheers for that.

Pathetic

Posters that post pathetic at the end of their lectures are pathetic

[Fastrax 274]

The same folk who made all the other cunts who decide what is right and wrong the 'post police'

So it IS down to football rivalry and not revilement at the rape of children? thats utterly fucking disgusting.

I tried to but got bored reading the same stuff over and over (and your post history only goes so far back)

Pantie sniffers? lol

Yes, I've posted on here for 18 months, have several posters on here follow me on twitter under my real name, have posted my own personal details on here but aye, your right I'm a tim.

I don't think you're a tim, just an absolutely insufferable hand-wringing liberal

We don't mock child abuse, but we don't let the beggars forget how disgusting the club they follow is

[Blue corn flakes 1,282]

I wore a snorkel to School once. It was around 83-4