RangersFanBase 611 Posted February 21, 2014 Author Share Posted February 21, 2014 A little damaged.Well severely damaged, but still the points they raise are valid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Shut the fuck up you absolute rocket, who the fuck do you think you are? Mr Keyboard warrior of the internet forums? Away to fuck you wrong'un. All you do on here is try and throw your weight around, acting as if you know everything about everybody, it's fucking laughable.You know I'm right ya wee worstcunt Ole ole ole Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersFanBase 611 Posted February 21, 2014 Author Share Posted February 21, 2014 Every group you mentioned were being run by Paul Murray, that's why. He was instructing the leaders of these groups, so no Bear has the slightest confidence in these Rebel groups. A group steeped in all sorts of dodgy going's on such as the RST asking for clarification is beyond Irony.I get that. But still they do raise valid points which can't be ignored, and aren't being ignored, Sky News is now running this story with "Rangers Fans ask CEO Wallace for clarification regarding loan" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky True Legend 2,682 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 RFB. I am afraid the SoS's reputation is more than "a little damsged". They have shown themselves to be nothing more than a shower of infantile imbeciles and are totally derided by any Rangers fan with a modicum of intelligence, viz. the majority, nay vast majority, of us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boss 1,941 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 "Resolution 9 seems to be being used ... which is an affront to shareholder democracy"Who wrote that? Resolution 9 was democratically voted for by the shareholders. We might not like it, we might wish it was otherwise, but the statement is factually incorrect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Still don't understand why people are ridiculing this statement to be honest; it didn't solely come from the RST, it also came from the Assembly, and the Association. And the questions being asked are pretty valid, instead of ridiculing it because the RST are involved, perhaps people should step back and actually consider their questions, and ask themselves the same questions?They raise valid points, as did SoS in regards to the same thing, but because their reputations are a little damaged, it means these very valid points are laughed at? Get a grip folks.It's the same kind of questions from the same people and groups trying to create hysteria and panic that isn't needed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgowrangersno1 468 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Why like this though? Why fuel more hysteria? Why not approach the club and get the information before adding to the scaremongering?They have to let their members know don't they?You can have a go at the RST about certain things but keeping the fans informed of this isn't one of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgowrangersno1 468 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 One slight difference here.VB don't ask fans to boycott Rangers, we are not hacking emails of others, we have not bounced cheques, we have not forgotten about loans, we have not beaten people up in the wee RSC and we are not being told what to do by a man trying to get on the board without spending a penny.Hope that clears up the difference between VB and the RST?You've just proved my point.The difference between the groups doesn't matter. The statement and what they are asking of the board is perfectly valid, which is the point I was making.Read the statement, not who's made it.Any right minded Rangers fan who read that statement without seeing who it was from would be delighted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehost 11,061 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Excuse me for asking but has the individual who you and so many others on here seem to hate not resigned. Move on FFS.has there been an investigation?are they getting people on their board without consulting the membership? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianBacon 2,088 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 They're out in force tonight. On the back of yet another off-the-wall interview from The Man Who Would Be King (deep pockets, short arms loyal), followed by an RST statement with the old 'clarification' question, which followed a statement on another website asking fans' not to renew ST's, followed by a YouTube-style interview by the younger siblings of an ex-manager, the 'two-man' website/bed-sheet-group, the reb's followers are jumping onto RM in their droves - soon it will be 'Spivs' this and 'Spivs' that.Many of us had hoped, given the reb's embarrassing defeat at the AGM that they and their followers would at least have the courtesy to give Mr Wallace and the Board the time (120-days was all he asked) to get to grips with things, formulate their plans and report same at the end of that period........but alas alack.......no such luck.The enemy within is alive and well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
In walter we trust 228 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 We really need an answer from the board as to why they won't engage with d king , even just to explore all avenues Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianBacon 2,088 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 We really need an answer from the board as to why they won't engage with d king , even just to explore all avenuesNo we don't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,137 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Rangers Supporters Association, Assembly & Trust StatementThe Rangers Supporters Association, Assembly and Trust have contacted the CEO Graham Wallace to ask for clarification on the proposed loan by directors and/or selected shareholders.It is of great concern that at the club's AGM in December 2013 Graham advised there was sufficient cash in the business for the club to be able to continue to trade in the short to medium term yet two months later we require a loan for working capital. We would also like assurances that the club have explored all options for attracting fresh investment and this is the best deal available to the club.Could it be that this money will prevent GW from having to impliment his cost cutting? and nothing to do with running short of working capitalOn the day that the club launched a survey on listening to fans they have ignored shareholding fans overwhelming opposition to resolutions 9 & 10 at the club AGM. Resolution 9 seems to be being used to increase the influence of certain shareholders without affording the same option to others, which is an affront to shareholder democracy and rights.Why should the present directors/shareholders look to bring in more investment from outside when they can invest more themselves? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 We really need an answer from the board as to why they won't engage with d king , even just to explore all avenuesDave King seems to only want to invest via a new share issue and I imagine that's not possible right now, so what else is there to engage with? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabawsa 888 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 An organisation that won't provide clarification on its own internal dealings has the audacity to request others to provide clarification! You couldn't make up the self importance of the RST. Then when you look at proportional representation , they speak for about one thousandth of a percent of the regular Rangers support. Yes, 0.001% . Laughable ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky True Legend 2,682 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Interesting that they are asking for "clarification". Is TLB a member of RST? Probably as they both seem to have comparable attitudes towards Rangers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Shut the fuck up you absolute rocket, who the fuck do you think you are? Mr Keyboard warrior of the internet forums? Away to fuck you wrong'un. All you do on here is try and throw your weight around, acting as if you know everything about everybody, it's fucking laughable. admin why has this roaster not been banned yet? Go and take a look at his posting history! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,137 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Interesting that they are asking for "clarification". Is TLB a member of RST? Probably as they both seem to have comparable attitudes towards Rangers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger77 742 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Could this statement simply be a form of deflection due to talk of a new unified democratically elected fans group? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoldierBlue1 499 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Following on from an article by suck on ££ today the RST bumf has sucks prints all over it....This. Never a truer word was said. WATP Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 That is all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,113 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 More embarrassment IMO What sort of clarity do they want? Is it not obvious it's plugging a short term working capital funding gap until season book money comes in and then with the cost cutting measures and action taken as a result if 120 day plan we should be doing a lot better financially? I think it's that simple but as usual the groups are aiding a manufactured/mock crisis and keeping it going Remember we have no debt - any football club no matter if it's Man United, Real Madrid or Dumbarton run 365-24.7 don't run with no debt We are at a point where we need a fresh injection, just a little, to give us a comfort zone until the season book money is inWould the rebel fan groups and scaremongerers rather we went into administration again just to cure their perverse frame of mind and be able to say "I told you so"? Seems like it In short fuck off, settle down and let the people in charge do their work on our behalf If guys like Wallace etc walked away and caused us to go under then it's exactly because of statements like this and videos from Sons of Swallow like last nightI think you've covered it all there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,922 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 The way I see it the 'loan' is to see us to the end of the season..Between a rise in season ticket money and the expected cull on the deadwood around the club we will be in a far healthier position in 12 months time..The biggest threat to our club isn't dodgy board members/ hedge funds, it would be a boycott on season ticket money!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonok 1,245 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Ive got to laugh at all these fans who are desperate to hero worship board members, we had the CraigWhyte's a billionaire hero brigade what happened we got pumped, and then we had the Charlie Greenis our saviour he's says the things we like to hear, pumped again, Now we have hedge fund heroes coupledwith the Easdales and they decry any who dont trust them as scum taigs rhebels ect. they must enjoybeing pumped. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Between a rise in season ticket money and the expected cull on the deadwood around the club we will be in a far healthier position in 12 months time..This absolutely The cost cutting measures are in place There's more to come at the end of the 120 daysSeason book money due in soon McCoist has halfes his wages Deadwood gone and more to goAnd we are sitting on purchases and assets that we've shelled out for that will make us cash such as Ed House, car park, bringing security and catering in house and the airport and Belfast shops If we are in debt and no cash flow in 1-2 years then yes be very worried but people (Rebs and fan groups ) can't won't or refuse to see the big picture Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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