Misteral 2,932 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 My first game on Friday since the Derby friendly. Not expecting much in the way of a performance TBH. 3pts are the only thing that matters. WATP Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trampas2000 6 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Small steps. Three points and a formation that looked a bit more positive in the first half, and was able to hang on in the second. Small steps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamess 3,453 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Being happy with the wins is just sticking your head in the sand. We win ugly against teams we have more than 10x the resources and a lot of part timers. When we come against teams that are not too far behind us in resources we get played off the park. Winning against the minnows is just hiding all the problems - most of us see this. We need to prepare for the playoffs, which means beating teams like Hivs who have played us off the park 3 times. Continuing with the same formula is just madness and we will not get promotion. McDowall has very clearly showed he has no new ideas and cannot get us ready for the playoffs. Ibrox_Nights and JCDBigBear 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffbear 4,104 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Fuckin alloa....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlearyEyedBear 4,148 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 As I said we've been here before where we get back to winning ways with scrappy performances and it's gotten us absolutely nowhere in the long run, it'll be exactly the same again.We aren't going to catch Hearts and 2nd, 3rd or 4th means the play-offs so I don't see why someone can't try and make changes to our style, our training etc in preparation for trying to win the play-offs. But sadly McDowall just seems to want to carry on with McCoist's work.I'd like to see Kenny try and integrate some of the young players into the squad. He only seems to have dropped Black so far, but it's far easier to introduce the younger players into a settled team, and I certainly wouldn't throw them into the game against Hearts on Friday night. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Being happy with the wins is just sticking your head in the sand. We win ugly against teams we have more than 10x the resources and a lot of part timers. When we come against teams that are not too far behind us in resources we get played off the park. Winning against the minnows is just hiding all the problems - most of us see this. We need to prepare for the playoffs, which means beating teams like Hivs who have played us off the park 3 times. Continuing with the same formula is just madness and we will not get promotion. McDowall has very clearly showed he has no new ideas and cannot get us ready for the playoffs.In 3 games?How long would you give any manager who didn't make wholesale changes to the starting line up? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivybank 4,636 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I dread that defence against the scum,the back 4 is one of the worst ive ever seen ,McCulloch and mcgregor are horrendousWe know how bad jig is,but mcgregor is the new moshni thinks he's better than he is,his failure to pick up the Alloa forward was Shocking in the first 5 mins,then his short pass back,could have cost us 2 goals ,smith and foster are a liability,could be 6 or 7Against them,on the plus side Hutton had another decent game,and law chipped in with another goal, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I assumed you were talking about the style of play. Depends on your definition of entertaining I suppose.For me, winning is entertaining.That's like saying a sad wank is the same as pumping a beautiful woman, after all the end result is just the same. STEPPS BOY, Band of Brothers and CraigG 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sket 13,610 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 How the f is Alloa second bottom of our league is beyond me, I always think they play good football.Every team looks like they play good football against us. Ibrox_Nights and Courtyard Bear 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Hearts will steamroll us if we play like that. It was a win today but could so easily have been a draw. Theres no excuse, we are a full time team with international players and all we're managing is a 1-0 win against part timers. The players shouldn't be happy with their performance and if they come out with pish like "glad of the win" then they need to take a long hard look at themselves as full time professionals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamess 3,453 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 A new manager in would have to weigh up the squad. McDowall knows the squad, so should easily be able to make changes. But I can't get past the basic fact of repeatedly playing underperformers does not help the team or motivate those who never get a chance. Ibrox_Nights, Westwood Bear and JCDBigBear 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
watp1690rfc 32 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 So now we have to be satisfied that Rangers have beaten Alloa Athletic for the first time in four matches?We've been playing 'ugly' for the best part of four years and it's set us back years as a football club, and it's not as if we've even gained a winning mentality from it what with the multiple cup and league failures. We've been here before with people saying the three points are all that matters yet in no time at all the same kind of performance results in another humiliation.If we as supporters just accept a game like today we're part of the problem.On nail head. CraigG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Could be doing with Cammy Bell back ASAP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wearethepeople1 3,897 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 That's like saying a sad wank is the same as pumping a beautiful woman, after all the end result is just the same.A brilliant metaphorical comparison Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 75,046 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 That's like saying a sad wank is the same as pumping a beautiful woman, after all the end result is just the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoplandStandBear 995 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Hearts will steamroll us if we play like that.It was a win today but could so easily have been a draw. Theres no excuse, we are a full time team with international players and all we're managing is a 1-0 win against part timers. The players shouldn't be happy with their performance and if they come out with pish like "glad of the win" then they need to take a long hard look at themselves as full time professionals.How many of those playing for us today are international players? I'd rather play shite and win than play like Real Madrid and draw or get beat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I dread that defence against the scum,the back 4 is one of the worst ive ever seen ,McCulloch and mcgregor are horrendousWe know how bad jig is,but mcgregor is the new moshni thinks he's better than he is,his failure to pick up the Alloa forward was Shocking in the first 5 mins,then his short pass back,could have cost us 2 goals ,smith and foster are a liability,could be 6 or 7Against them,on the plus side Hutton had another decent game,and law chipped in with another goal, If that side take the field against scum it will be six or seven and if that happens I will never forgive McDowall or Ally for these disgraceful players Band of Brothers 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trampas2000 6 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 If that side take the field against scum it will be six or seven and if that happens I will never forgive McDowall or Ally for these disgraceful playersSo what side would you put out? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ready1873 3,902 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 So what side would you put out?i'm wary of you WadeWilson 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Aye I see your point. We have been poor at consolidating winning runs this season.As far as I'm concerned if we don't finish 1ST then 2nd is imperative. It won't make a difference as 4th gets a play off too but that's just my opinion.As for giving McDowall a chance...I'd prefer people be honest and say they wanted him gone with McCoist rather than say they gave him a chance. He's had 3 games, it was obviously naive to have expected wholesale changes but as has always been the case, despite frenzied supposition, we have no idea what he's implementing behind the scenes.It's obvious we need change. We are stagnating, but it's not a massive surprise when you examine the utter shambles our club is, and has been for 3 years.We have to disagree there, failing to finish top of Scotland's second tier is an ultimate humiliation, I certainly won't feel any more pride at finishing 2nd than 3rd or 4th. Yes I wanted McDowall gone as well because I think we need change from top to bottom and he's been part of the problem, but when he was given the role I didn't want to automatically rule out the possibility he may have a his own ideas and be determined to make a success of being a manager in his own right. It might only be three games but come on, he's even been making the same substitutions at the same sort of times, dropping Black is the only noticeable change and that's because Black was a wank. Even his interviews have made it pretty obvious to everyone he'd rather not be here.You're right about the club being a mess overall and the failure of those in charge of our footballing side has played a massive part in that JCDBigBear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 We have to disagree there, failing to finish top of Scotland's second tier is an ultimate humiliation, I certainly won't feel any more pride at finishing 2nd than 3rd or 4th. Yes I wanted McDowall gone as well because I think we need change from top to bottom and he's been part of the problem, but when he was given the role I didn't want to automatically rule out the possibility he may have a his own ideas and be determined to make a success of being a manager in his own right. It might only be three games but come on, he's even been making the same substitutions at the same sort of times, dropping Black is the only noticeable change and that's because Black was a wank. Even his interviews have made it pretty obvious to everyone he'd rather not be here.You're right about the club being a mess overall and the failure of those in charge of our footballing side has played a massive part in that50/50? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB 599 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Were Shite and we know it. problem is the players don't. The positives to take from todays game is we won, Hutton had a semi decent game, Law scored again, am I satisfied HELL NO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMC 125 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 We won at least.. Not that anyone here will be satisfied with that I guess. We need a new vision sort of! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 We are completely ,and utterly brutal as a Football Club.The whole of our present first Team except maybe two need to leave now, and have to be replaced by Perhaps some lower English league players from the 2nd Or lowers divisions.That's how bad they are now.And our whole TraiBing and Coaching / Scouting set up needs ripped apart as a priority now.If this is delayed any longer we won't even reach the Play offs, bit if we do we won't be successful with this lot.Also our fans won't turn up either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,863 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 What would he have said then? Bringing Bill Struth's comments into today's scenario is nonsense. The team is a shambles and it is due to McCoist and now McDowall. It is clear that McDowall doesn't want the job and hasn't the mettle to do anything on his own. Pointless of me to reiterate what everyone bar a few think. Band of Brothers 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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