crazy bob swollenbaws 1,865 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 The club needs a manager.A good one. And quickly.I heard we would have had one if not for this EGM. Mcdowall was to limit the damage against celtic.then he was gone. Egm screwed all that up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
one55 1,510 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 don't think we're going up and to be honest i don't mind if we are down here another season or two if we get a decent manager in, get rid of useless players, bring in more young guys instead of playing cunts like mcculloch, black, miller, boyd. it's what we should've down back in the third division! but oh no ally was having none of that. the only thing is if we can survive financially in this league for another season or two. we're gonna need serious money put into the club to keep us going. i want us back at the top of scottish football just as much as any other cunt but maybe we should take our time and do it properly instead of rushing back and making mistakes. of course it's a bit fucking late to say that cause we've fucked up but maybe we should just rethink the whole thing cause this plan isn't fucking working.we need to pay off mcdowell/mccoist and get them away from the club for good. any players out of contract should be let go unless it's someone we really need to keep. not sure who exactly has their contract end but honestly can't think of a player i would keep from this current shower of shite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbroxybear 660 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 It is plainly evident that this squad led by the current manager and coached by the current coaches simply do not have what it takes to win important games and therefore to win a promotion spot. This must surely be evident to the Board and those who aspire to form the Board after the EGM. So what's it to be - sort out the Board then plan for next season or sort out the Board and find a manager / coaches that can turn a bunch of losers who do not have enough pride in the jersey into a team that grabs play off games by the scruff of the neck, takes its scoring chances, and defends like men possessed to prevent goals from being scored against us ie matchwinners?What's it to be eh? A roll of the dice in the play offs or fuck the season and plan for next with lower crowds at Ibrox and massive cost cutting to cut away the expensive failures and a season or two invested in home grown youngsters? Its coming down to make your mind up time for the Board - whatever Board - as games are ticking away and we can't find any wins and we just keep getting worse. Can it get worse? Sure it can. Can it be recovered - not without an urgent change of manager and urgent change of attitude by the squad.Absolutely spot on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 2,991 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I heard we would have had one if not for this EGM. Mcdowall was to limit the damage against celtic.then he was gone. Egm screwed all that up.Did Bill tell you that, or Jack cause our sound like utter bullshit propaganda to me Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,909 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I heard we would have had one if not for this EGM. Mcdowall was to limit the damage against celtic.then he was gone. Egm screwed all that up.I'm glad the board were waiting till we got beat off the tarriers before getting rid of Mcdowall.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamess 3,422 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 A fresh manager that knew what he was doing, using all of our resources (players on loan) and breaking from the shackles of playing the same failures every game with the same hope for the best tactics should work. It has been clear for ages now what the job is - build the team for the play offs. Plodding along with what we have seen to fail game after game needs to stop. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I'd take another season in Division 1 if the board gets sorted out Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weshallnotbemoved! 714 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Glory hunters will leave in droves....oh wait the DK crowd will sort that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bears fan 259 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Financially another year in the chamionship is not good but in our present state we wouldn't fare too well if we did go up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy bob swollenbaws 1,865 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Did Bill tell you that, or Jack cause our sound like utter bullshit propaganda to melike the bullshit prapaganda about getting players from newcastle u mean?? Is undenyable no one will invest in a manager until this egm crap is over. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy bob swollenbaws 1,865 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I'm glad the board were waiting till we got beat off the tarriers before getting rid of Mcdowall.. it takes time to find a manager. The board did not cause this. The supports dumb blind luv of mccoist did for us. At least have the decency to admit that. If he had cried jump u would have asked how high and jumped at the board and that would have came back on them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClydebankBearWATP 877 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Could be a blessing in disguise if we get the correct coach in. Gives him a year to instill a philosophy in the team, bleed our promising youngsters and plan for promotion the next year. Although we all want promoted another year in the championship could make us stronger in the more longer term than getting promoted and being a shambles next year still Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,909 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 it takes time to find a manager. The board did not cause this. The supports dumb blind luv of mccoist did for us. At least have the decency to admit that. If he had cried jump u would have asked how high and jumped at the board and that would have came back on them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy bob swollenbaws 1,865 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 well say what parts u disagree with. Ir are ur debating skills as poor as ur football knowledge? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,909 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 well say what parts u disagree with. Ir are ur debating skills as poor as ur football knowledge?I was one of Mccoists biggest critics on here..He should have been punted years ago..Now Mccoist left before Christmas so why the fuck, according to you, were the board waiting until after tarrier game to replace him? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,606 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Panic over we are getting the next Alex Ferguson in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 See all the people saying they would rather another season in the championship, get a fucking grip of yourselves. We can't afford another season in this league!This.Not getting promoted is not an option. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,606 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Could be a blessing in disguise if we get the correct coach in. Gives him a year to instill a philosophy in the team, bleed our promising youngsters and plan for promotion the next year.Although we all want promoted another year in the championship could make us stronger in the more longer term than getting promoted and being a shambles next year stillIt Blood our promising youngsters Bleed is what the filth do with youngsters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyson1872 2,923 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Saying that, another season with murdoch, gasparatto, mckay, Gallagher, Clark.. Not sure that's such a bad thingI agree, those saying it will kill us aren't looking deep enough into it.Firstly, it will battle harden the youngsters. Money won't be as big of a problem as made out, we will have way more season tickets than this season and we will be saving around 3m on wages. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueThunder 8,453 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Hell, why don't we start in the second division? That would REALLY give a new manager a decent run up!Unbelievable! The cheese eating surrender monkey attitude of some on here. Probably the same ones who were shouting for us to go to the third division in the first place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClydebankBearWATP 877 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 It Blood our promising youngsters Bleed is what the filth do with youngsters.I did put blood my fone must of changed it to bleed Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferris Bueller 1,569 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Being optimistic here, but if we can get the other toon boys integrated into the team (while keeping some more of our duds out!) and maybe have a new manager after a succesfull egm i think we could have a chance.Plus i would love us to put the hibs scum in their place by denying them promotion! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamgers 1,214 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 We wont stand a chance in the play offs. A two legged game against hibs or queens who have both bet us convincingly. Would be more than happy in same lge next season.Fuck off with your defeatist fucking attitude! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chineseboy 1,563 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 In the play-offs, will we get a capacity crowd at Ibrox? Will be massive games for us so I would certainly hope so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reformation Bear 6,453 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I can understand to a degree why not getting promotion is not an option. The alternative - another year or more in the Championship risks creating the sort of downward spiral that is nearly unthinkable. Reduced ST sales and reduced match day attendance as Supporters stay away until better times arrive. Reduced revenue from ticket sales even if there is a (small?) increase in ticket prices. Reduced commercials - less attractive sponsorship and less advertising etc. Possibly less TV revenue as Rangers become just another middling Championship club - a club fallen on bad times - a club where TV interest in their games dwindles away? What if the attendances fall below 10000 at home games, and much less at cup games? What is DL - or whoever replaces him after 4 March - going to budget for next season. Will it be a worst case budget with an absolute determination do drag costs down below whatever revenue emerges from reduced ticket sales and reduced commercials? All resulting in much more severe cuts than might be imagined right now. Cuts in numbers of players. Cuts in the levels of non-playing staff. Massive cuts in players wages and cuts or freezes in wages of non playing staff. Maintenance at Ibrox reduced to minimum necessary to meet health and safety but no investment in the physical infrastructure. Could MP be retained - or would it simply cost too much to keep? Oh and of course a very significant amount of money seeping out each month to McCoist - failure in chief. Maybe even to McD too if he is required to go study his garden pending his contract expiring.And none of the above even starts to touch on the football impact. With a swathe of failing / failed expensive players due to roll out of contract at the end of the season a continued stay in the Championship would infer a material rebuilding exercise. Sure we might be able to attract some players in - but given the stresses and pressures the players have seen this season just how many players of any talent would want to move to Ibrox and into the toxic cocktail of high expectation from the Support, low quality coaching, even lower quality management and for wages that may have to be on a par with other Scottish championship clubs if the cuts needed really are more severe that we are currently seeing. A rebuilding for promotion might take more than one season. By which time when we are promoted we are so far from being competitive for the top league that it may take many years to recover.So I can see some reasons why failing to win promotion this season is not an option. But increasingly that defies the reality we are seeing week in and week out. And with time ebbing away to transform this team I do think that the greater reality is that the players and the manager simply do not have the bottle to become hard edged game winners with a single-minded focus on winning promotion. They have proven time and again they cannot handle the pressure. And thinking that this group of players and the manager / coaches can suddenly shake this off and win promotion takes a form of optimism that, to my mind, borders on no more than wishful thinking. If failing to win promotion this season is not an option - then since the players cannot now be replaced, it requires the introduction of a manager and probably coaches too that can galvanise this squad and cause it to deliver. The longer the Board - whatever the composition of the Board - delays in bringing in the quality and strength of managerial leadership needed to deliver this season, the more they indicate to the rest of us that not winning promotion is in fact entirely acceptable to them. And with it the acceptance of a reduced home support, reduced income and cuts of the nature I mention above.But investment money will fix all of this won't it? When the new Board is appointed. Will it? Just who is going to be prepared to invest yet again in Rangers (or for the first time) if the prospect is another year in the wilderness, maybe more years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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