K.A.I 36,183 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, Lloyd72 said: Rossiter was worth the risk though. Based on what? As I said yesterday (I think) I seen nothing in the YouTube compilation that even stood out and even they make guys like Dodoo look like Gonzalo Higuain. How he gets a regular game for England unders is actually beyond me (based on what I've seen) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Not seen anything in him to say he's got any real quality, hope he proves the doubters wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,541 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 24 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: Barton,Crooks,Kranjcar and Rossiter all brought in to strengthen our midfield in the summer. That worked out well. Am telling yi, it's that fucking Halliday running amok at training, knobbling folks, putting them up in the air, big slidies- he pure loves the Gers yi know Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,796 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Good luck to the lad, but I will be surprised if he plays for us again. No idea why he was brought in to be honest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lloyd72 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, K.A.I said: Based on what? As I said yesterday (I think) I seen nothing in the YouTube compilation that even stood out and even they make guys like Dodoo look like Gonzalo Higuain. How he gets a regular game for England unders is actually beyond me (based on what I've seen) Captain of Liverpool youth team also and very highly rated down south just look at some of the names linked with him before we got him, Rodgers coming out and declaring him a Valuable member of the Liverpool team said a lot to me about his talent not to mention his performances in the few games he played at Liverpool. Did he not get MOTM in a europa league game vs Bordeaux? It's very harsh to judge him on his games for us because he had just came back from a long term injury which still seems to be haunting him. As I said, he's very young still only 19 and has time on his side to get over these injury troubles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Lloyd72 said: Captain of Liverpool youth team also and very highly rated down south just look at some of the names linked with him before we got him, Rodgers coming out and declaring him a Valuable member of the Liverpool team said a lot to me about his talent not to mention his performances in the few games he played at Liverpool. Did he not get MOTM in a europa league game vs Bordeaux? It's very harsh to judge him on his games for us because he had just came back from a long term injury which still seems to be haunting him. As I said, he's very young still only 19 and has time on his side to get over these injury troubles. Captains of youth teams means very little to me - the very nature of unders football is that some look great and don't push on and some burst onto the scene. He played in Bordeaux had a high pass completion rate and apparently did very well (according to the BBC article I just looked up) but so did some others that they mentioned who's nowhere to be seen now either. I honestly just don't see the hype. I watched him in a couple of England unders games after he signed (or when we were linked heavily with him) and he didn't stand out at all. Like a young Hemdani. Does little wrong, but doesn't do enough. Not my type of player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,646 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 another player that was never ever gonna be good enough for us. MOH Forrester next to leave please Warburton Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamFyfe 1,438 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Good move for him if he plays plenty games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lloyd72 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, K.A.I said: Captains of youth teams means very little to me - the very nature of unders football is that some look great and don't push on and some burst onto the scene. He played in Bordeaux had a high pass completion rate and apparently did very well (according to the BBC article I just looked up) but so did some others that they mentioned who's nowhere to be seen now either. I honestly just don't see the hype. I watched him in a couple of England unders games after he signed (or when we were linked heavily with him) and he didn't stand out at all. Like a young Hemdani. Does little wrong, but doesn't do enough. Not my type of player. Fair enough although I'm not sure about the Hemdani comparison I don't remember much of him but I would say Defensive midfielders aren't supposed to do much other than tackle and pass and if they're doing little wrong that's good too. I don't think Rossiter was bought as a traditional DM anyway I think he was bought to play more of a Regista role for us but never quite got going due to the team being poor and him just coming back from injury. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Lloyd72 said: Fair enough although I'm not sure about the Hemdani comparison I don't remember much of him but I would say Defensive midfielders aren't supposed to do much other than tackle and pass and if they're doing little wrong that's good too. I don't think Rossiter was bought as a traditional DM anyway I think he was bought to play more of a Regista role for us but never quite got going due to the team being poor and him just coming back from injury. Yeah I get what you are saying about the role of a defensive midfielder but if we are to have one of them to really work well for us I don't think it can be a young guy at 5,7 or whatever he is. If we are going down that route (again IMO) we need someone big and strong and will boss a midfield with the crunching tackles and win second balls with ease. Similar to a Wanyama for them in previous years and to a lesser extent what Armstrong has been doing in recent months for them. Hate using them as a benchmark but it's where we need to be. Rossiter isn't that type of player that wee need for that role. Nice and neat and tidy but that's about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,723 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Be interested to see if he even gets a game there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RD.1872 890 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 51 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: Definitely. The excuses trotted out on here are quite something. Also bear in mind that 3 of those four players will be top earners at club. Add in Senderos as well and it's quite something. Not having that mate. Wee Frank is the best scout in football history, they'll come good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Good move for him. Needs some regular time to play and wasn't good enough to improve our side immediately. Hopefully a run of games and a good preseason will see him come back here and challenge (or encourage Scunthorpe to spend a few quid on him.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,892 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Another poor signing of Marks, good luck to the boy but I doubt we will see him play in our first team again Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,435 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Good luck, hopefully does well enough that someone down there wants him full time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perth_Campsie_Ger 17,996 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 2 hours ago, the goal machine said: Shane it hasn't worked out so far but this is the type of move he needs. Get some games and come back in the summer fit and ready to go. Who's shane Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number5 2,121 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Good luck to the big guy. Wanted him to do well but looked poor from what little I saw. Wouldn't be the first player to look shite then turn it around. Fingers crossed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy1984 6,314 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Hopefully get the game time he needs and come back stronger and force his way into the team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bam74 978 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Good luck to him. Think that's his level if we are being honest. Hopefully he does well and we might get a couple of bob for him in the summer. Pretty certain he won't play for us again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goal machine 7,802 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 11 minutes ago, Perth_Campsie_Ger said: Who's shane Shane Ferguson obvs. Rangers icon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyson1872 2,923 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 1 hour ago, K.A.I said: Captains of youth teams means very little to me - the very nature of unders football is that some look great and don't push on and some burst onto the scene. He played in Bordeaux had a high pass completion rate and apparently did very well (according to the BBC article I just looked up) but so did some others that they mentioned who's nowhere to be seen now either. I honestly just don't see the hype. I watched him in a couple of England unders games after he signed (or when we were linked heavily with him) and he didn't stand out at all. Like a young Hemdani. Does little wrong, but doesn't do enough. Not my type of player. That is what all the best defensive mids in the world do though, Sergio Busquets hardly ever puts a foot wrong but because he doesn't score 30 yarders every match he isn't talked about as much. Same goes for the likes of Iborra, Krychowiak etc Besides, in the few games he played for us I thought he was reasonably solid, good tackling and pretty decent passing as well. Obviously he will be a bit raw at his age but the potential is definitely there for a great defensive mid Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 15 minutes ago, Skyson1872 said: That is what all the best defensive mids in the world do though, Sergio Busquets hardly ever puts a foot wrong but because he doesn't score 30 yarders every match he isn't talked about as much. Same goes for the likes of Iborra, Krychowiak etc Besides, in the few games he played for us I thought he was reasonably solid, good tackling and pretty decent passing as well. Obviously he will be a bit raw at his age but the potential is definitely there for a great defensive mid Busquets in the same breath as Jordan Rossiter Only on Rangers Media. I take your point, but Busquets still offers a lot more than Rossiter will. He wins second balls, is sharp and aware. Maybe Rossiter can be .. I'm not ruling it out - I'm only commenting on what we've seen so far. Others seem to comment on what they've not seen or really wants to happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangersfcwatp1990 33 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 1 hour ago, K.A.I said: Captains of youth teams means very little to me - the very nature of unders football is that some look great and don't push on and some burst onto the scene. He played in Bordeaux had a high pass completion rate and apparently did very well (according to the BBC article I just looked up) but so did some others that they mentioned who's nowhere to be seen now either. I honestly just don't see the hype. I watched him in a couple of England unders games after he signed (or when we were linked heavily with him) and he didn't stand out at all. Like a young Hemdani. Does little wrong, but doesn't do enough. Not my type of player. Young Hendani Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanjo 26,328 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Hope he plays well. Horrible start to his career here because of injury. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,646 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Just read his interview about joining Scunthorpe. Says he's buzzing to be there and is looking forward to testing himself at the higher level ( than league 2) I really don't think well see this plum again.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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