Bears r us 31,000 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 33 minutes ago, The Godfather said: It's just a role where the manager wants someone who knows the club and culture to come in and be there if he needs him. They way folk are going on it's like Barry would be coming in, taking training...changing the meal plans and firing out bottles of aftershock to the boys after training. It's a small role nothing more. Calm doon I thought he would be part of the coaching team (no 3), but if you are right it seems more like a part time position and will have no influence over the players then I suppose it does not matter who gets it. Surely someone like Eck would be a better choice if it is just an advisory thing. I am much calmer now, especially after laughing at the bold part above. Bobby Hume 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu 981 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 He wasnt too keen when PC was appointed why would he want to work with him now is it a case of getting his feet under the table Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,855 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bears r us said: I thought he would be part of the coaching team (no 3), but if you are right it seems more like a part time position and will have no influence over the players then I suppose it does not matter who gets it. Surely someone like Eck would be a better choice if it is just an advisory thing. I am much calmer now, especially after laughing at the bold part above. He will be part of the team but he has several people ahead of him in terms of position so it's not like he's going to be in charge of anything vital. If Barry came in and worst case scenario he acted up he'd be punted arse first out the door. If he values a future in coaching and in football he will come in and do the job asked of him and not much else. Bears r us, Loyal Bear 72 and jintybear 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,855 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Zulu said: He wasnt too keen when PC was appointed why would he want to work with him now is it a case of getting his feet under the table Like half the forum we expected a bigger name, all he did was give his opinion. Folk are bizarre on here, think Ferguson is coming in to plot some master plan to rule Ibrox once and for all OhW 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
He's blue he's white 717 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 What sort of salary would this post attract do folk think? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boaby Bear 411 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 FFs the way people go on is as if they have never made mistakes in life/career, learned from it and moved on. Barry is no different. All the shite thats gone before regarding Fergie wont rear its head again hopefully, and if it does he will only be fucking himself up cos he will be booted out the club because i cant see Pedro putting up with any shite from his staff. Go on Barry lad get in about us, show yer teeth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM1872 3,776 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 32 minutes ago, He's blue he's white said: What sort of salary would this post attract do folk think? You would obviously have to consider the timing of it and the current economic conditions. Scottish Football is hardly booming, and whilst we are currently the second strongest side in terms of finances, the levels of such finance are the lowest they've been in a long while. Furthermore, the post is the "3rd assistant" or something I've heard but the emphasis from Caixinha is about it being a local appointment who can advise him and his team on the club, the other clubs etc. If it was an entirely external appointment you could maybe say £2-3k per week. However, with it being Barry (as rumoured) you'd like to think it would be the lower end of that spectrum given he is a "Rangers man" and all that. You would also need to consider the Manager and his assistant's wage, because it should be definitely less than their's. Its not a Director of Football role, or a head of coaching role, so it shouldn't be a highly paid position imo. However, at Rangers nothing seems cheap so I just hope Barry does the honourable thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenerife Bear 1,748 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 33 minutes ago, He's blue he's white said: What sort of salary would this post attract do folk think? More than any other member of staff or first team manager in Scotland. Wasn't Durrant on about £7500 a week as 3rd assistant? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu 981 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 1 hour ago, The Godfather said: Like half the forum we expected a bigger name, all he did was give his opinion. Folk are bizarre on here, think Ferguson is coming in to plot some master plan to rule Ibrox once and for all Hes no that clever Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
He's blue he's white 717 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 48 minutes ago, Tenerife Bear said: More than any other member of staff or first team manager in Scotland. Wasn't Durrant on about £7500 a week as 3rd assistant? No way £7500! That's completely bonkers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenerife Bear 1,748 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 9 minutes ago, He's blue he's white said: No way £7500! That's completely bonkers Yeah, iirc all 3 were on around £1.5m a year with AM obviously on the bulk of that. ID and KM on approx. £350k per annum, not sure what that is a week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
He's blue he's white 717 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 10 minutes ago, Tenerife Bear said: Yeah, iirc all 3 were on around £1.5m a year with AM obviously on the bulk of that. ID and KM on approx. £350k per annum, not sure what that is a week. Too much. Tenerife Bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal Bear 72 363 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 2 hours ago, The Godfather said: He will be part of the team but he has several people ahead of him in terms of position so it's not like he's going to be in charge of anything vital. If Barry came in and worst case scenario he acted up he'd be punted arse first out the door. If he values a future in coaching and in football he will come in and do the job asked of him and not much else. This 100%. With the way some people are reacting it's as if he is going to be joint manager. Due to the role he would be filling, it's low risk. Unfortunately some fans just don't like him (something I find impossible to relate to) and that's the way they will always see it. OhW and Waggy1872 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam1872 251 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 58 minutes ago, OhW said: The only foreign manager he played for was PLG no? 100 percent record... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarvinAndrews 80 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 1 hour ago, OhW said: The only foreign manager he played for was PLG no? Dick Advocaat too. Dietspam and OhW 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muz333 361 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 41 minutes ago, OhW said: It's a non-point though. You could just as easily say "Hasn't coped well with French managers". Basically, you can't say there's a pattern if you only have one example. Incidentally, I'm glad Barry undermined PLG. Aye but he also hasn't coped well with managers who's names begin with P either! OhW 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kris1984 1,343 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 OhW 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hume 13,503 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 If PC utilises his skills learned from his university days ... sports psychology ..... he should be able to figure out what it requires to get any player onside who needs that influence. He will, presumably, not allow any form of dissent from any player or coach to adversely affect the team's performances or moral (he has said so himself) .... I think he has the ability to recognise early on when something or someone is not pulling their weight ... and will address the potential negative element as and when required .... psychology degree or not, I would expect that to be a minimum requirement from anyone ..... even if SAF was our manager. That is the main reason I believe we don't need this position ..... if the manager can't get the players motivated to perform then he is the one not fit for purpose ..... and every manager, coach and player who comes to Rangers should know exactly what it means to go out and give 100% in every game .... motivation should be the least of our worries if the management staff and the team have the qualities required for success. I have no problem or axe to grind against anyone who eventually fills the post .... I just think it is a post we do not require .... and basically feel ..... why have a dog and bark yourself? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam1872 251 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 1 hour ago, OhW said: Of course, how did I manage to miss that? So it turns out Barry doesn't have a 100% record of not coping well with foreign mangers @Cam1872 Fair play.. I hope he works out, i tried to give a balanced view based on how i see it. If I was choosing I am still not sure hee would have been top of the list. OhW 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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robg58 319 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Apparently Lovenkrands in for number 3 job http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4340696/Peter-Lovenkrands-frame-No-3-role-Rangers.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,713 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 6 hours ago, robg58 said: Apparently Lovenkrands in for number 3 job http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4340696/Peter-Lovenkrands-frame-No-3-role-Rangers.html This is a good shout actually I've always thought he has a bit of dignity about him he is articulate and he is definitely bitten by the famous Quite the opposite to John Brown, as sad as that is to say Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooblue 1,985 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 7 hours ago, robg58 said: Apparently Lovenkrands in for number 3 job http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4340696/Peter-Lovenkrands-frame-No-3-role-Rangers.html A much, much better option than either Ferguson or Brown. markem, Buggleskelly and Muz333 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy1984 6,314 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 If there was any way he could pass to our strikers his nak of scoring against the bheasts it's a massive yes from me. Gandalf the Blue and writingranger 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
writingranger 1,427 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 He's foreign and yet steeped in Rangers, a huge supporter who has maintained his interest. Also, having never been any kind of manager, wouldn't have the baggage that comes with it-clash of egos or methods. If the chemistry is there he would be an excellent shout. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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