K.A.I 36,183 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 minute ago, cd true bluenose said: is his preferred formation not 442 if so why stick to the 433 we apparently can't play ?? We can play 4-3-3 when the players show up and are in the mood. We can't play 4-4-2 when trying to counter-attack like today .. we need to play 5-4-1 for that. Basically the one formation we couldn't play with that gameplan today and low and behold we play it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
insider 123 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 No system can completely disguise the obvious fact that they have better players. I've watched Pedro's post match interviews , confusing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minus22 207 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, K.A.I said: I agree he needs time mate but I also feel he's still responsible in the meantime and should carry the can for pish performances and results in the meantime. I know. Look, we all want the same thing mate, the means of getting there looks like it's going to be a shaky path. we want instant success, we want to compete against them, we want to smash teams we are playing. I just think the playing personnell is all wrong/doesnt have the mettle, and i just hope he is supported to bring in strength to the team in key areas that gets us back to a certain level. The whole thing is frustrating, angering, and a host of adjectives that are not pleasant. One things for sure king needs to support him to a higher degree otherwise we are completely fucked for the foreseeable Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd true bluenose 86 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 37 minutes ago, K.A.I said: We can play 4-3-3 when the players show up and are in the mood. We can't play 4-4-2 when trying to counter-attack like today .. we need to play 5-4-1 for that. Basically the one formation we couldn't play with that gameplan today and low and behold we play it. so play 442 and press them? hodson has to play right back tav stick him rmf ? just my opinion Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,460 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 3 hours ago, cushynumber said: which one lost and which one won? Wee pedro just looks happy to be here. To be fair he's probably not angry coz his fortune telling powers have temporarily worn off: It was taken before the game. We might aswell jump on it though eh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Just now, WWTC said: To be fair he's probably not angry coz his fortune telling powers have temporarily worn off: It was taken before the game. We might aswell jump on it though eh. Was it? Well I'll stand corrected if that's the case Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WWTC 2,460 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, cushynumber said: Was it? Well I'll stand corrected if that's the case If someone can prove me wrong then i must've missed it, but pre-match they were all laughy-jokey. He shook his hand at the end and walked away Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,816 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Fuck up honestly Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,983 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 After this debacle I'm seriously worried about our manager. Bad team selection, bad tactics and bad substitutions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weehank 41 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 20 minutes ago, WWTC said: To be fair he's probably not angry coz his fortune telling powers have temporarily worn off: It was taken before the game. We might aswell jump on it though eh. Are the fans walking backwards to their seats Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubie92 1,074 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I didn't agree with his tactics to start with, though some of our players folded after Tav gave away the penalty. I'd have went with a similar system to the one we used against them at Parkhead, or started with Dodoo up front, but the biggest problem is he's inherited a pish squad. Some players try and aren't good enough; some are mentally weak and aren't good enough; some look like they will be good enough and strong enough mentally, but lack experience. It's going to be a tall order getting rid of some of them, and we need to in order to free up funds to bring in better players. Best of luck to Pedro there. Hopefully Warburton wants to take some of them to Nottingham. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 3,124 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Been stone cold sober all day. Pedro can GTF. Shite team selection, shite tactics, no impact from the sidelines. Worst of all was the laughing and joking with the filth manager after being roundly gubbed. Never going to make it as a Rangers manager, doesn't understand it. Pedro accepted defeat before he put his team out, why else would be so relaxed and laughing after that performance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger ranger 922 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 9 minutes ago, theiconicman said: Been stone cold sober all day. Pedro can GTF. Shite team selection, shite tactics, no impact from the sidelines. Worst of all was the laughing and joking with the filth manager after being roundly gubbed. Never going to make it as a Rangers manager, doesn't understand it. Pedro accepted defeat before he put his team out, why else would be so relaxed and laughing after that performance. We have the perfect excuse, there is no money for good players or managers and be thankful for what you have, second rate players can come here and make good money for 2 to 3 years and not give a flying monkeys, same goes for the managers we bring in, they can string out a couple of years and leave with a years wages if we pay them off. Your right about Pedro, would you see Rodgers laughing and joking after being made to look a complete cunt, no way, he would be scowling all the way down the tunnel, the sooner Pedro goes the better before he does any more damage. I don't blame Pedro or Warburton first hand, I blame this inept board for giving them the most important job in Scottish football to complete no mark managers and they have made Rangers to be a laughing stock, everybody in Scottish football is laughing their cocks off. The pressers are embarrassing, Pedro talking like he has a CV like Mourinho and then delivering up a pub team selection and tactics, strikers who can hardly score and he plays three of them!!, a midfield of Holt and Halliday, we are in a bad way and Rangers fans were talking of winning the cup and now their talking about beating them next week FFS, the day dream believers are also talking about being in Europe next year and we are utter dross. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacBoyd 6,072 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Nothing I have seen suggests he will be a success Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_r_sole 366 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 7 hours ago, hanleysguru said: I'm happy to give the guy time. Didn't appreciate the mutual admiration society show at the end, but I think that can be put down to Caixinha being a little naïve. I think he has something about him. I also keep imagining him with a huge fucking cigar and a smile for some reason. Maybe that's just a premonition? I think he'll do alright. It's because he looks like the cowboy in inner space... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gersandy 594 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 17 hours ago, kaiser1041 said: I see a lot of threads on certain individuals and agree with most. but for me the manager failed miserably today and I haven't been impressed with any of the games under us barring the sheep. we were losing quite clearly the midfield yet he ignored this and removed numbers rather than adding to them. for me dodoo has to be our main striker till the end of the season Ill give the guy time but won't fall for the same sound byte shite I fell for under Warburton. also may aswell end on a positive and say it's a joy to sit shoulder to shoulder with our fans. This is the reason why i dont think you should bring in a new manager in the middle of the season. Fair enough Warburton was off, but let Murty take the team till the end of the season. Let the new manager observe from afar. Even let him train the team towards the end of the season. But bringing him in, the fans are expecting him to work wonders. Its plain to see from 1-11 were useless. I dont even rate the keeper. Andy Halliday, fuck me, how is he getting paid thousands a week to play for Rangers? Tavernier, the right back who cant execute a tackle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu 990 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 8 hours ago, JCDBigBear said: After this debacle I'm seriously worried about our manager. Bad team selection, bad tactics and bad substitutions. That makes a few of us i mean how did we land up with him lets face it hes a nobody in footballing circles he seems to be all talk an fuck all else an we have had our fill of that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,513 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 10 hours ago, the_r_sole said: First big game was Aberdeen, where he had an idea... The Aberdeen was really irrelevant as even mccoist could get us a Euro place, this game was massive Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 56,400 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Wait, are there people actually calling for his head now? I have serious reservations about him but he needs a chance to build his own team before he can be properly judged FFS. Calling for the head of a manager who's had six games in charge and is working with players who packed up and stopped trying months ago is pathetic behaviour. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_1 1,136 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 At the time I was massively critical of him, thought we missed a no brainer in going for Mcinnes. But he has impressed me at times and it's hard to criticised with the personnel he has at his disposal. Problem is the pressure on him may prove too much because if he doesn't get it right during the transfer window and we don't start well next season he could be gone by October/November. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanksRFC 3,882 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 If he signs similar to the shite we already have in the Summer we really are in big big trouble. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 55,345 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I think we're in a dangerous predicament here. Shite contracted players who will likely stay next season really not working for a new manager who they find confusing and who has shattered their cushy lifestyles by cancelling days off and making them graft. He may well have sussed the ones he wants replaced but I genuinely doubt there's the money to do it. I'd imagine some he will be forced to keep. The players don't seem to speak favourably of his techniques, tactics or training - just comment that it's different. I've said before that at times I get his English but find he talks confusing jargon with his phases, transitions etc - do the players really get it and buy into it? He will only succeed if he has a sizeable budget. If not then he'll become the next fall guy. Unfortunately I don't anticipate there to be any chance of a budget coming that's going to give him a fighting chance. Realistically we need several season's where those out of contract are then replaced with far better on a similar pay. Bloody difficult, and he also won't be afforded that luxury of years to achieve it. It's a cluster fuck and there's no easy answer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK92GERS 854 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Some of the comments in here are absolutely ludicrous man folk have made up their mind after yesterdays showing yes it was poor but given he hasn't brought in his own players and we're only 6 games into his tenure players will still be getting used to the changes in tactics training etc I think he was the potential to be a great manager for us ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boaby Bear 411 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 That was them at their peak against us. They played us off the park. They were just better at everything. The only positive I saw was the team on the pitch that saw the game out, looked "together" and on the same wavelength as each other. Should have been the starting 11 with the inclusion of Toral. PC got it wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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