Sparkle 53,611 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Rfc52 said: Any bear that signs for them is never one of us in the first place hopefully a career ender Terrible thing to say. I totally agree. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 3,886 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 He's a goal scoring midfielder but I wouldn't say we're massively missing out. A few of my friends are from Renfrew and Paisley and whilst they'd be gutted if he leaves, they're not sure that his all round game is good enough for a top end SPL club Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,371 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Break a leg.. Tarrier bastard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, plymouthranger said: He's a goal scoring midfielder but I wouldn't say we're massively missing out. A few of my friends are from Renfrew and Paisley and whilst they'd be gutted if he leaves, they're not sure that his all round game is good enough for a top end SPL club Depends how he moves from where he is. Look at recent examples , eg: Jack for us and Armstrong for them. Good players who were SPL level and raised their game on getting their move. That said, for every one of those - theres 3x Scott Allans, etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,534 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 It's not that he's signing for them that's the problem, it's that we're still not in a position to be signing talented young guys, some of which are supposedly Rangers fans and would have been stick ons in the past. There's a danger as well that sellic are going to entrench their position by signing the likes of Henry and loaning him back. Hoarding the best talent so that they can play against your rivals but not against you isn't exactly conducive to healthy competition. Makes the rich even stronger. Imagine a situation next season where sellic don't have to play against the best players of Dundee, Aberdeen and St Mirren but we do. Sporting integrity? Might not become a massive issue, but Scottish football should be wary. I already think the idea of loaning players in your own league and preventing them from playing yourselves is wrong (and I know we do it too). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 14 minutes ago, Inigo said: It's not that he's signing for them that's the problem, it's that we're still not in a position to be signing talented young guys, some of which are supposedly Rangers fans and would have been stick ons in the past. There's a danger as well that sellic are going to entrench their position as well by signing the likes of Henry and loaning him back. Hoarding the best talent so that they can play against your rivals but not against you isn't exactly conducive to healthy competition. Makes the rich even stronger. Imagine a situation next season where sellic don't have to play against the best players of Dundee, Aberdeen and St Mirren but we do. Sporting integrity? Might not become a massive issue, but Scottish football should be wary. I already think the idea of loaning players in your own league and preventing them from playing yourselves is wrong (and I know we do it too). I agree, but difficult to rule against. Celtic are not going to sign anyone they don't think is potentially good enough. Neither of us have ever signed anyone to weaken the opposition - money talks, and it makes no sense. People talk about signing SPL dross, but our last good team in 10/11 contained - Broadfoot, Whittaker, Naismith, McCulloch, Foster, Miller, Boyd..... all guys who either started out in the SPL or signed as promising SPL players. Our squad definitely needs to be signing top talent from the SPL and trying to develop them into good players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoopsLaud 4,186 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Never heard of the guy but you cant blame him for making that move. Most likely advised by agent and parents. Have a good friend who follows st mirren so will ask his opinion on this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperPapac05 3,383 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Fuck him. Another Ryan Christie and Scott Allan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,534 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Badger said: I agree, but difficult to rule against. celtic are not going to sign anyone they don't think is potentially good enough. Neither of us have ever signed anyone to weaken the opposition - money talks, and it makes no sense. People talk about signing SPL dross, but our last good team in 10/11 contained - Broadfoot, Whittaker, Naismith, McCulloch, Foster, Miller, Boyd..... all guys who either started out in the SPL or signed as promising SPL players. Our squad definitely needs to be signing top talent from the SPL and trying to develop them into good players. That's the problem. If they buy the best and loan them. It's got the potential to be very, very anti-competitive and lacking in sporting integrity. It has the potential to contribute significantly towards a footballing monopoly. The rule should be simple. You loan a guy out, he's at the loaned club's disposal. No limitations on playing against the loaning club. Fairness is paramount. If that inconveniences clubs in other ways, then too bad. Rules always inconvenience, you just have to operate around them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetToTheChoppa 6,873 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie1963 2,356 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 I am happy that they are spending money in this way. Would be more concerned if they were buying seasoned quality internationals Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,655 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Never ever a bear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 51 minutes ago, Inigo said: That's the problem. If they buy the best and loan them. It's got the potential to be very, very anti-competitive and lacking in sporting integrity. It has the potential to contribute significantly towards a footballing monopoly. The rule should be simple. You loan a guy out, he's at the loaned club's disposal. No limitations on playing against the loaning club. Fairness is paramount. If that inconveniences clubs in other ways, then too bad. Rules always inconvenience, you just have to operate around them. Would you try your hardest playing against your employer. Tied on points, last day of season, opposition centre forward is playing against his employers that he is on loan from..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, Badger said: Would you try your hardest playing against your employer. Tied on points, last day of season, opposition centre forward is playing against his employers that he is on loan from..... You should, it's your duty to remain professional. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JukeBoxJohn 3,060 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 8 hours ago, Rfc52 said: Any bear that signs for them is never one of us in the first place hopefully a career ender No idea where the stuff about him being a bear came from tbh. His family are massive taigs so it comes as no surprise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,547 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, JukeBoxJohn said: No idea where the stuff about him being a bear came from tbh. His family are massive taigs so it comes as no surprise. Been in the paper that he has a season ticket. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JukeBoxJohn 3,060 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Been in the paper that he has a season ticket. Some of that family are definite taigs though so I'm shocked. Fuck him regardless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,534 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Badger said: Would you try your hardest playing against your employer. Tied on points, last day of season, opposition centre forward is playing against his employers that he is on loan from..... As a pro trying to make my way in the game and convince the manager I was worth a shout? Not letting my team mates down? Damn right I would. That paying employer would still have to pay me and were the ones that thought I wasn't good enough for them anyway. How better to prove them wrong? Besides, it's for the loaning teams to weigh up those risks before deciding on the loan. You don't want to take that chance, don't loan the player. It's that or banning same division loans. Those are literally the only two reasonable options. Personally, I'd ban same division loans, actually. Nice and straightforward. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue 9,395 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 On 20/12/2017 at 15:54, SuperPapac05 said: Fuck him. Another Ryan Christie and Scott Allan. this Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangecountry 148 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 On 20/12/2017 at 16:49, Inigo said: That's the problem. If they buy the best and loan them. It's got the potential to be very, very anti-competitive and lacking in sporting integrity. It has the potential to contribute significantly towards a footballing monopoly. The rule should be simple. You loan a guy out, he's at the loaned club's disposal. No limitations on playing against the loaning club. Fairness is paramount. If that inconveniences clubs in other ways, then too bad. Rules always inconvenience, you just have to operate around them. Is there such a rule to actually prevent a player playing against his parent club though? Seem to remember it happening Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzalivesforever 1,987 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, orangecountry said: Is there such a rule to actually prevent a player playing against his parent club though? Seem to remember it happening No rule as such but parent clubs usually insert a clause in loan contract. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Calling 46 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Simple truth.. We are in such a shit state we can't attract Rangers minded people to the club.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,547 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 3 hours ago, London Calling said: Simple truth.. We are in such a shit state we can't attract Rangers minded people to the club.. If you don't bid for someone, how can you attract them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Calling 46 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 57 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: If you don't bid for someone, how can you attract them? Plenty in the media saying we were linked too, probably told not to waste our time.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyscott1963 18,379 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Never in a month of Sundays was this kid a Rangers Supporter. Any Rangers minded kid would give this bunch of paedos a wide berth,with good advice from decent parents. Just because he had a Rangers top as a kid does not mean he is a Rangers fan. Hope any young guy signing for the bheasts turns out the worse move of their careers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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