LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,540 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 He's not worth a million. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 20 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: One miss? The one on one were he shat himself, miscontrolled the rebound for a bye kick then they went right up and scored. Or the absolute fucking sitter that was harder to miss. Strikers are judged and remembered for their goals, not shrugging off defenders. Forgot that first miss tbf Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 56,380 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 How many times over the past few years have we had players that “a better manager” could get more out of now? Maybe it’s just a case of Cummings just not being as good as people built him up to be before he came here? MacBoyd 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,624 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 I think he will be a good buy we just have an idiot of a manager who continues to play a player who's not scoring goals even when put on a plate for him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 minute ago, DBBTB said: How many times over the past few years have we had players that “a better manager” could get more out of now? Maybe it’s just a case of Cummings just not being as good as people built him up to be before he came here? We've had a lot of those players and not yet had that “better manager” to get the best out of them maybe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, DBBTB said: How many times over the past few years have we had players that “a better manager” could get more out of now? Maybe it’s just a case of Cummings just not being as good as people built him up to be before he came here? Better managers can get more out of players. Just look at the increase in performance from Kilmarnock since Steve Clark took over. That's not an isolated incident it's happened at a multitude of clubs where a quality manager has taken over from a poor one. A better manager would get more out of all our players not just Jason Cummings. Very few of our current squad seem good enought to be here, a handful at most, but that could change under the right manager. For years we've signed guys who done well in the SPFL or abroad and watched them turn to utter shite in a Rangers jersey that's poor coaching and management. Players come here and start going backwards. Howsitgoing 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 15,263 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 hour ago, ForeverAndEver said: He sat on the bench while our top scorer started and bullied the Tarriers defence and had a good game apart from one miss, Cummings then got a start and showed why he shouldn't be player over Morelos. I think people like Cummings because he’s got a tattooed hand of a mouth smiling I don’t really understand - why doesn’t he use his real actual mouth to smile unless on the rare occasion he uses this celebration (rare ah tell ye) he is sticking his tongue out at us and we think he’s smiling? i really wish he would score more goals to allow us to see for ourselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd 10,756 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: I think people like Cummings because he’s got a tattooed hand of a mouth smiling I don’t really understand - why doesn’t he use his real actual mouth to smile unless on the rare occasion he uses this celebration (rare ah tell ye) he is sticking his tongue out at us and we think he’s smiling? i really wish he would score more goals to allow us to see for ourselves. Had to look and see who posted that there thought it was @Sweetheart KeyserSoze 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrupsleftfoot 12,227 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 29 minutes ago, LaudrupsPatrickBoots said: He's not worth a million. We don't half underestimate players' values in Scotland. A million is an absolute snip for someone at Cummings' age and with his ability and potential. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 56,380 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 19 minutes ago, TMB said: Better managers can get more out of players. Just look at the increase in performance from Kilmarnock since Steve Clark took over. That's not an isolated incident it's happened at a multitude of clubs where a quality manager has taken over from a poor one. A better manager would get more out of all our players not just Jason Cummings. Very few of our current squad seem good enought to be here, a handful at most, but that could change under the right manager. For years we've signed guys who done well in the SPFL or abroad and watched them turn to utter shite in a Rangers jersey that's poor coaching and management. Players come here and start going backwards. I think the vast majority of them simply aren’t as good as people think they are to begin with tbh. KeyserSoze 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 12,234 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 He’s wasting 5 months with us at present. Needs to have a sparkling spell over the next 7/8 games to make it worthwhile taking a punt on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 40 minutes ago, DBBTB said: How many times over the past few years have we had players that “a better manager” could get more out of now? Maybe it’s just a case of Cummings just not being as good as people built him up to be before he came here? we haven't had a proper manager from 2011, so fail to see what your point is Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,540 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said: We don't half underestimate players' values in Scotland. A million is an absolute snip for someone at Cummings' age and with his ability and potential. It's 400k more than was quoted at the time of him joining on loan. Not sure what he's done to justify an increase. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 56,380 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Just now, Jack The Flipper said: we haven't had a proper manager from 2011, so fail to see what your point is We’ve barely had a good player since then either. A good manager might get a bit more out of some of the players at the club at present but he would need to be a miracle worker to collectively drag them to the level and expectations that our club demands. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,519 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Ivybank said: Sub with hibs sub with forest sub with us I would pass Sorry, what? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,519 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Would be happy to pay £1m for him Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumhoilann 6,715 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Not sold on him. A lone striker he is not,we'd need to bring in a target man aswell to get the best out of him imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,800 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, Blumhoilann said: Not sold on him. A lone striker he is not,we'd need to bring in a target man aswell to get the best out of him imo. We already have a target man though... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumhoilann 6,715 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: We already have a target man though... We have a target man who is also a main striker,play the pair of them v Dundee and see how they get on??? I'm talking about a target man who will lay the ball off for Cummings,in the air and on the grass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gersandy 594 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Cummings is the sort of striker that would thrive in a 4-4-2. Im still on the fence regarding his overall ability to be in a championship side, but if we’re talking about next season trying to mount any sort of challenge, then maybe he’ll be ok. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordersbear 1,105 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Don't rate him and never have. Championship level at best. It's a no from me. Ivybank and KeyserSoze 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philiprfc 1,799 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 The ability is definitely there. It's just a question of how best to play him. Up top on his own doesn't work, and he doesn't work well with Morelos. (Not sure that's his fault though) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 21,629 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 I really like him but paying £1 million for him? No ta Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 15,263 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Ask yourself seriously what has Cummings done to warrant leading our line or being one of our main strikers? I think I’m done with “potential” and all the “would have should have could have” players we’ve brought to this club in the last few years. The list is endless We talk ourselves into believing something because we are so fucking desperate bordersbear and Ivybank 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 15,263 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, philiprfc said: The ability is definitely there. It's just a question of how best to play him. Up top on his own doesn't work, and he doesn't work well with Morelos. (Not sure that's his fault though) So he can’t play up front on his own nor with a strike partner? mmm interesting Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.