WCPRANGERS1 2,997 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Just now, Coplander2 said: Violent conduct is a red according to the laws of the game. Recklessly kicking out at an opponent is a yellow.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post harlands plater 17,065 Posted August 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 6, 2018 Steven Gerrard probably thought there was a bitter rivalry between Liverpool and Man United, but that was nothing compared to the feelings of hatred towards our club. It used to just be followers of one religious cult who had it in the DNA to hate everything about us, but now indigenous Presbyterians who support any other clubs or none hate us every bit as much. Its plain that the clubs themselves, their supporters, the games administrators, referees and the media all wanted us to die six years ago and the fact that we didn’t consumes their every waking moment. We stand alone. beechwood bear, BridgeIsBlue, Brackley and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coplander2 23 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 minute ago, WCPRANGERS1 said: Recklessly kicking out at an opponent is a yellow.... To you, to me.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvd1873 7,406 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Ryju84 said: Im still waiting on it evening out in our favour I hear this shite from people all the time..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 83,944 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 My da that doesn't take much interest in football watched that yesterday and asked me why there's always something with us BridgeIsBlue 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Clancy will claim red for violent conduct. What does that make a headbutt or a shove? Attempted murder? Bobby Hume and BridgeIsBlue 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCPRANGERS1 2,997 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Just now, Coplander2 said: To you, to me.... It's there under unsporting behaviour. Recklessly kicking or attempting to kick out at an opponent is a yellow and it's why the red will be rescinded. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 The constant negative commentary against Rangers is causing a bias ether conscious or unconscious but it is evident with the constant bad decisions from refs. We need foreign refs who are not bias and who will be at a better level (that would not be hard). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithgersbear 3,225 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Morelos has no one to blame but himself. He is the main reason we didn't pick up the 3 points, no one else. He failed to control himself in a game which was easily going to be won against an Aberdeen who played awful against 10 men. It's about a winning mentality. Got to see that game out at any cost. He should never have had the room to get a strike on goal at that point in the game. Too much space. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCPRANGERS1 2,997 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Just now, Getstiffed said: Clancy will claim red for violent conduct. What does that make a headbutt or a shove? Attempted murder? Can argue it but their own rules deem it a yellow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backup 4,724 Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 All things are relative as to intent and excessive force. VIOLENT CONDUCTViolent conduct is when a player uses or attempts to use excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball, or against a team-mate, team official, match official, spectator or any other person, regardless of whether contact is made. In addition, a player who, when not challenging for the ball, deliberately strikes an opponent or any other person on the head or face with the hand or arm, is guilty of violent conduct unless the force used was negligible. OFFENCES WHERE AN OBJECT (OR THE BALL) IS THROWN In all cases, the referee takes the appropriate disciplinary action:reckless – caution the offender for unsporting behaviour using excessive force – send off the offender for violent conduct. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,328 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Getstiffed said: Clancy will claim red for violent conduct. What does that make a headbutt or a shove? Attempted murder? I have miniscule hope that Clancy says having seen it on tv he'd have taken action other than a red. But then I realise it's easier to stick to the violent conduct line, back up his mate, and support the decision made. Think Morelos is fucked tbh, and likely facing a 3 game ban to take in the scum game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,317 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 10 minutes ago, Coplander2 said: i said jostling. You ever seen a corner kick being taken? And quite regularly people are booked for that, if Morelos is running through on goal and barged like that it's a free kick, it wasn't a shoulder challenge, the elbow was up the second time too. Your trying too hard. Bobby Hume 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCPRANGERS1 2,997 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, backup said: All things are relative as to intent and excessive force. VIOLENT CONDUCTViolent conduct is when a player uses or attempts to use excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball, or against a team-mate, team official, match official, spectator or any other person, regardless of whether contact is made. In addition, a player who, when not challenging for the ball, deliberately strikes an opponent or any other person on the head or face with the hand or arm, is guilty of violent conduct unless the force used was negligible. OFFENCES WHERE AN OBJECT (OR THE BALL) IS THROWN In all cases, the referee takes the appropriate disciplinary action:reckless – caution the offender for unsporting behaviour using excessive force – send off the offender for violent conduct. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC Eagle 4,888 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 20 minutes ago, Coplander2 said: McKenna fouled Morelos twice prior to him lashing out, why wasn't McKenna at the very least booked for his actions? He used his shoulder to jostle him, cant take that out of the game. They werent fouls. Why wasn't Ball at the very least booked for pulling back Windass in the box, making no attempt to go for the ball. Could have been red carded for that. McKay Steven threw the ball with force at Windass(?) Isn't that a bookable offence? GMS couldnt throw anything with force. Why was Arfield booked when Devlin grabbed his shirt and forced his face into Arfield's? This pisses me off. any handbags and the ref books both players as if thats the fair answer. happens all the time but its crap. Why was Goldson booked? bad foul Why wasn't May at the very least booked for jumping into Jack with what appeared to be deliberate intentbto injure? He went for and got the ball. I agree it was probably malicious but difficult for ref to see that. And just where did the referee get the idea for 6 minutes extra time? Injuries and subs, minutes wasnt excessive. Stopped reading after this utter nonsense. A shoulder to shoulder challenge is only acceptable with the ball in playing distance. A barge off the ball is punishable by a free kick against the offender. Its perfectly obvious you have no idea about the Laws of Association Football. Strange that your recent posts have taken an opposing view with regard to referees AND immediately condemned Rangers supporters for an incident that, looking objectively at the photographic evidence, appears not to have actually happened. Which publication are you a 'journalist' for? SeparateEntityMyArse, Bobby Hume and Falcoholic 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coplander2 23 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Big Al II said: And quite regularly people are booked for that, if Morelos is running through on goal and barged like that it's a free kick, it wasn't a shoulder challenge, the elbow was up the second time too. Your trying too hard. "Your trying too hard." FFS, gie's peace. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backup 4,724 Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, WCPRANGERS1 said: Is there a point other than Laws we all, apart from refs seem to be clear on ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coplander2 23 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 minute ago, RFC Eagle said: Stopped reading after this utter nonsense. A shoulder to shoulder challenge is only acceptable with the ball in playing distance. A barge off the ball is punishable by a free kick against the offender. Its perfectly obvious you have no idea about the Laws of Association Football. Strange that your recent posts have taken an opposing view with regard to referees AND immediately condemned Rangers supporters for an incident that, looking objectively at the photographic evidence, appears not to have actually happened. Which publication are you a 'journalist' for? You should try reading it all. I work for the Socialist Worker, brother. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebestest 2,148 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 It's the result of unconscious bias, so neither of the options really. The media intentionally looks for stories about our club that promotes a narrative of 'cheaters', 'biggots', 'hooligans', and that perception seeps into the subconscious of the referees. The only way to know for sure, however, is to do the research. Watch every game, track every decision. Until an independent enquiry is set up and reports on the statistics, I believe we will continue to be treated unfairly. I'd be interested to get an estimate for the man hours it would take to do a review with a professional (English) referee, and see if we can get funding together to pay for such an enquiry ourselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCPRANGERS1 2,997 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Just now, backup said: Is there a point other than Laws we all, apart from refs seem to be clear on ? 1 minute ago, backup said: Is there a point other than Laws we all, apart from refs seem to be clear on ? We appeal this and it will be rescinded. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 18 minutes ago, Coplander2 said: just pointing out that not only me doesnt see a conspiracy. Nobody sees a conspiracy, which is why it isn’t an option in the vote. RFC Eagle 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyc06 6,927 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 I think vendetta is probably a bit strong however i genuinely feel that those with a persuasion against Rangers give decisions against us knowing full well that the majority in charge/in the media share their unfavourable view of us so it will be swept under the carpet! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC Eagle 4,888 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Just now, Coplander2 said: You should try reading it all. I work for the Socialist Worker, brother. Unfortunately I finished reading it. It merely confirms what I suspected, you have absolutely no clue about the Laws of the game. Fortunately I'm not your 'brother' in any sense of the word. Ayrblue1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coplander2 23 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Just now, Courtyard Bear said: Nobody sees a conspiracy, which is why it isn’t an option in the vote. Vendetta then pedant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebestest 2,148 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, keithgersbear said: Morelos has no one to blame but himself. He is the main reason we didn't pick up the 3 points, no one else. He failed to control himself in a game which was easily going to be won against an Aberdeen who played awful against 10 men. It's about a winning mentality. Got to see that game out at any cost. He should never have had the room to get a strike on goal at that point in the game. Too much space. These are two seperate issues in my opinion. Yes, Morelos should be smarter. But our players shouldn't have to be smarter than theirs to get the same outcome. That's the definition of unfair. harlands plater, Bobby Hume and RFC Eagle 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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