Lafferty pulls out of NI squad

[Laudrup1984 25,100]

2 minutes ago, A.T.G said:

Irish FA = Petty wankers

It would seem Northern Ireland want him to continue playing. It would seem Lafferty wants to continue playing. So what do Northern Ireland do? Yeah we'll punish Rangers. The innocent party in all of this. Yup makes sense. If they want to punish Lafferty go for it, don't select him for the next internationals if you're that unhappy. However they probably need him so won't. Pretty poor show.

[CooperSF 5,792]

[Davy Vandenbroucke 26,180]

3 minutes ago, Laudrup1984 said:

Out of the 3 parties I was referring to but yeah this gives Hamilton a minor boost. Obviously not suggesting Lafferty is a game changer but it's something that should have been easily avoided.

Martin Canning will be breathing a huge sigh of relief imo

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,732]

32 minutes ago, bluenoz said:

KL is at fault but O'neil is also trying to deflect and turn the attention away from NI's losing skid. Poor play by him as well.

Seems his job is at risk and he's been fucked over and left in the shit so is rightly raging at KL. If I was him I'd probably do the same. It'll likely cost lafferty a club fine due to being unavailable and that's what will hurt him most see. I see his logic.

[TheKingObv 10,646]

13 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said:

Seems his job is at risk and he's been fucked over and left in the shit so is rightly raging at KL. If I was him I'd probably do the same. It'll likely cost lafferty a club fine due to being unavailable and that's what will hurt him most see. I see his logic.

He played on Sunday and phoned O'Neil on the Sunday night. He's fucked nobody over.

[The Specky Forum Organiser 64,837]

He's a fucking idiot

[Steelydan1690 20,228]

Fuck them cunts ,imagine the uproar if it was the sfa 

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,732]

56 minutes ago, TheKingObv said:

He played on Sunday and phoned O'Neil on the Sunday night. He's fucked nobody over.

He didn't alert the club. He appears not to have got any 'injury' verified by personal, club or international doctor. He didn't trap the following morning personally, he phoned at midnight.

Both club and IFA appear in agreement he didn't follow correct procedure for calling off.

So he fucked over his manager, country and now club.

But aye, he played on the Sunday, I'll give you that.

[TheKingObv 10,646]

7 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said:

He didn't alert the club. He appears not to have got any 'injury' verified by personal, club or international doctor. He didn't trap the following morning personally, he phoned at midnight.

Both club and IFA appear in agreement he didn't follow correct procedure for calling off.

So he fucked over his manager, country and now club.

But aye, he played on the Sunday, I'll give you that.

But he told them as soon as he was aware he wouldn't play. He didn't fuck anyone over. Yes he could have gone about it more professionally but had he went about it the correct way then Northern Ireland would have been in the exact same position.

Him not going about it the most professional away literally hasn't affected Northern Ireland at all. Would the IFA assessing Lafferty in person have left them in a better position? No.

[Bears r us 30,803]

Fuck up for sure, he either needs to retire or make sure he plays by the rules from now on, I would imagine Stevie G has made that point to him and I do not expect this to happen again. 

[Larry-AV 51]

18/10/2018 : Regarding Kyle Lafferty and the Irish FA (or any FA) :

"A player who has been called up by his association for one of its representative teams ... "
" ... during the period for which he has been released" ... I presume this means released by the club.

This 'called up' sounds like conscription ... what if a player does not want to play for 'his association' ?

I could see a Bosman scenario here, where a player stands up for his right to play for his club (in fulfillment of his contract of employment), but not for his association.

By what authority does the association 'call up' the player ... is it part of his player registration ?
If not the registration, is it due to a clause in the player's contract with their club ... and why is it there ?
If the clause is there due to the association insisting on it being in all players' contracts, then that would be the clause to be struck out under the new 'Bosman' scenario.
If there is no clause in the registration or club contract, then the player has no contractual link with the association.

If there is a contract of employment between a 'called up' player and the association this begs the question, how can the association unilaterally impose such a contract on a player who does not want to play for the association ?
I cannot think of any other situation where a company can impose a contract of employment on a person not directly employed by the company.
It is a moot point as to whether a company could impose a contract onto an employee of the company.
This sort of behaviour by companies to its employees has been the cause of many an industrial dispute.

[gogzy 31,195]

How the fuck does a national team manage to tell the team paying his wages he can't play?

That's nonsense.

[gogzy 31,195]

Footballers not allowed to pull a sickie like everyone else

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,732]

5 minutes ago, TheKingObv said:

But he told them as soon as he was aware he wouldn't play. He didn't fuck anyone over. Yes he could have gone about it more professionally but had he went about it the correct way then Northern Ireland would have been in the exact same position.

Him not going about it the most professional away literally hasn't affected Northern Ireland at all. Would the IFA assessing Lafferty in person have left them in a better position? No.

You dont know he told them as soon as he was aware.

You agree he didn't go about it correctly, his actions allowed the IFA to invoke the rule as a result. It's not about whether there was even an injury which is dubious. Nor is it about him calling off which. Or about them left too late to call up a replacement. It's entirely the manner he's gone about it that has enraged his manager, who has clearly taken it personally.

His manager thinks he's came the cunt as he clearly has and it's left them in the shit. He fucked over manager and country, and we're now suffering as a result.

 

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,732]

8 minutes ago, gogzy said:

How the fuck does a national team manage to tell the team paying his wages he can't play?

That's nonsense.

They've invoked a fifa rule and informed the club. From the club's response the club doesn't disagree.

Laffertys actions caused this response, as petty as it seems on the face of it.

[TheKingObv 10,646]

9 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said:

You dont know he told them as soon as he was aware.

You agree he didn't go about it correctly, his actions allowed the IFA to invoke the rule as a result. It's not about whether there was even an injury which is dubious. Nor is it about him calling off which. Or about them left too late to call up a replacement. It's entirely the manner he's gone about it that has enraged his manager, who has clearly taken it personally.

His manager thinks he's came the cunt as he clearly has and it's left them in the shit. He fucked over manager and country, and we're now suffering as a result.

 

So you agree Northern Ireland are in the exact same position as they would be had Lafferty acted by the book?

Aye so he's fucked nobody over. Annoyed people maybe, but not fucked over.

And he played on the Sunday and then reported an injury on that same day. Fair to say he's told them almost straight away. 

[SeparateEntityMyArse 53,732]

Just now, TheKingObv said:

So you agree Northern Ireland are in the exact same position as they would be had Lafferty acted by the book?

Aye so he's fucked nobody over. Annoyed people maybe, but not fucked over.

Has he annoyed people at Rangers? No, he's fucked us over as a direct result of his actions.

It's really not about them being in the same position. It's about a player not following rules, a player doing his own thing, a manager feeling undermined, focus being taken away from the game to address this in the media. 

He's acted the cunt, not given a solitary fuck, likely wasn't even injured which is why he never informed the club, and fucked all and sundry in the process. 

[TheKingObv 10,646]

7 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said:

Has he annoyed people at Rangers? No, he's fucked us over as a direct result of his actions.

It's really not about them being in the same position. It's about a player not following rules, a player doing his own thing, a manager feeling undermined, focus being taken away from the game to address this in the media. 

He's acted the cunt, not given a solitary fuck, likely wasn't even injured which is why he never informed the club, and fucked all and sundry in the process. 

Aye he's fucked us over, not Northern Ireland. As I said they literally haven't been affected. He would have gone in to training and then been sent home. Only difference is he didnt report to training before sent home. Ultimately nothing has changed.

The IFA are the ones who have decided to make a song and dance about this so any focus being taken away is mainly down to them.

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27 minutes ago, gogzy said:

Footballers not allowed to pull a sickie like everyone else

Nobody is 'allowed' to pull a sickie...

[kaiser1041 9,088]

Diddy fucking nation removing flack from the fenian manager by way of s scapegoat fuck them I hope it’s the last major tournament they see

[Blumhoilann 6,712]

On 17/10/2018 at 13:40, plumbGER said:

Remember that old excuse got made for Lafferty etc that they had to walk away from Rangers to protect their international career, it seems to be the opposite now.

Moral of the story is that Lafferty will do what Lafferty thinks benefits him the most.

Good point, well made. This whole debacle has been caused by Lafferty,everything else results from his actions.

He's a bit of a history of letting down those he professes to 'love'. ?

[BlueKnight87 17,297]

End of the day the club has agreed with the IFA. 

Lafferty has gone about it badly and will face the consequences for it. 

I don't imagine the club and the gaffer will be too happy with him. 

[Faugh a Ballagh 40]

Phoning the gaffer at midnight with a bullshit excuse as to why you aren't going to turn up for work the next day, is a cunts trick in any job, especially when that leaves no time to get a replacement and you are needed for the job.  Even if it was a genuine recurrence of his injury (which Rangers weren't even aware of) he would have known about it shortly after coming off the pitch and definitely before midnight.  If he doesn't want to play for NI then that's his right, but he should have done the decent thing and said before the squad was named.  Midnight phone call is taking the piss. There are plenty of fringe players that would have leapt at the chance of a late call up.

However, another cunts trick that is perfectly on a par with what Lafferty did is the IFA punishing Rangers for his fuck up.  NI's next match is a friendly against the Republic in Dublin. Why not make a point of overlooking him for that squad instead? If he does want to play for NI then he would want to play in that.  That would send out exactly the same message and punish Lafferty instead of shitting on Rangers who are the innocent party in all of this.

[Prso's headband 35,482]

If only he said he was working on his fitness, that would’ve been the brave thing to do...

[TheKingObv 10,646]

48 minutes ago, Faugh a Ballagh said:

Phoning the gaffer at midnight with a bullshit excuse as to why you aren't going to turn up for work the next day, is a cunts trick in any job, especially when that leaves no time to get a replacement and you are needed for the job.  Even if it was a genuine recurrence of his injury (which Rangers weren't even aware of) he would have known about it shortly after coming off the pitch and definitely before midnight.  If he doesn't want to play for NI then that's his right, but he should have done the decent thing and said before the squad was named.  Midnight phone call is taking the piss. There are plenty of fringe players that would have leapt at the chance of a late call up.

However, another cunts trick that is perfectly on a par with what Lafferty did is the IFA punishing Rangers for his fuck up.  NI's next match is a friendly against the Republic in Dublin. Why not make a point of overlooking him for that squad instead? If he does want to play for NI then he would want to play in that.  That would send out exactly the same message and punish Lafferty instead of shitting on Rangers who are the innocent party in all of this.

Plenty injuries can flare up hours after exercise. Especially tendinitis/tendinopathy injuries which this may well be.