ZZed 4,510 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Anyway the next reconstruction will probably be a mess just like all the other league formats since 1975. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brubear 2,924 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 18 hours ago, ZZed said: When Scottish football was producing lots of talented players it was in the 60's and 70's with 2 leagues of 18. Mid table clubs could blood youngsters in midtable games, they could try people out in a real game, now the clubs are afraid to try as the cost of losing is to high. My memory is different. Thee were numerous meaningless games. The peak ti.e for Scotland producing talent was the first decade of the current 12 team top division. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 What I’d like about the 14 team league is it gives a better equality. Each team will play each other equally home and away pre then post split. Just now you can have differences in how many home and away games played between teams. But in no way do you rush through league restructuring, it’ll need all of the two year deadlines that’s currently set. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barasa 802 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Brighouse Town City of Liverpool Clitheroe Colne Droylsden Dunston UTS Kendal Town Marine Marske United Mossley Ossett United Rangers Pontefract Collieries Prescot Cables Ramsbottom United Runcorn Linnets Tadcaster Albion Trafford Widnes Workington (Pickering relegated to spfl.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacBoyd 5,471 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 21 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said: What I’d like about the 14 team league is it gives a better equality. Each team will play each other equally home and away pre then post split. Just now you can have differences in how many home and away games played between teams. But in no way do you rush through league restructuring, it’ll need all of the two year deadlines that’s currently set. I'm for it personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,371 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 It's a no go imo. Think a few clubs will be pissed off about the resolution carry on and will be voting against this out of spite mostly. Shite idea either way. You take away the only appealing thing about Scottish football (us vs the child abusers 4 times a season) then you're taking away any potentially decent tv deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacBoyd 5,471 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, King Jela said: It's a no go imo. Think a few clubs will be pissed off about the resolution carry on and will be voting against this out of spite mostly. Shite idea either way. You take away the only appealing thing about Scottish football (us vs the child abusers 4 times a season) then you're taking away any potentially decent tv deal. You would still get that in 14 team league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,647 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 19 hours ago, ZZed said: When Scottish football was producing lots of talented players it was in the 60's and 70's with 2 leagues of 18. Mid table clubs could blood youngsters in midtable games, they could try people out in a real game, now the clubs are afraid to try as the cost of losing is to high. 100% correct and it was the days when every PE teacher in schools were basically voluntary scouts. Then the likes of Roxburgh, Brown etc, both PE teachers, Largs mafia, saw an opportunity and turned the whole thing into a business and fucked the whole thing up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,371 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 13 hours ago, MacBoyd said: You would still get that in 14 team league Bastard! Just saw it would give them the league as well so you know it's a stick on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoastbear 1,639 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 For me with the spfl it doesn't matter which way you look at it a house of cards is just that , a house of cards, waiting for the merest breath of wind for the whole thing to come crashing down no matter how you reconstruct it. What's required is change in the very fabric of and the foundations on which Scottish football is built, no just fiddling a bit round the edges. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 19/04/2020 at 11:36, southcoastbear said: For me with the spfl it doesn't matter which way you look at it a house of cards is just that , a house of cards, waiting for the merest breath of wind for the whole thing to come crashing down no matter how you reconstruct it. What's required is change in the very fabric of and the foundations on which Scottish football is built, no just fiddling a bit round the edges. I still think a few clubs will bite the dust and then it will be a diffrent reconstruction again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brubear 2,924 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 18/04/2020 at 21:30, MacBoyd said: I'm for it personally. I might be if it was being thought through, introduced to a decent timetable and not a knee jerk reaction to Hearrs, partick and Stranrar being relegated. The way to have stopped that was for more teams to have had the guts to vote no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raging blue 1972 894 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Think celtic will vote for it if less old firm games. they know we've got their number and won't fancy playing us 4 times a season now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brubear 2,924 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 18/04/2020 at 21:54, MacBoyd said: You would still get that in 14 team league The need for 4 games against them to keep the TV companies happy is the reason 14 is the highest number of teams we will ever have in the top division. If you go to 16 you end up with 30 games playing everyone twice. That is too few games to complete the season but too many to than have some sort of split. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,549 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 34 minutes ago, raging blue 1972 said: Think celtic will vote for it if less old firm games. they know we've got their number and won't fancy playing us 4 times a season now Why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue 9,395 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Not that it wasn’t before but this is getting ridiculous, they are trying to polish a shite. So Hertz and Hamilton are leading the panel but Livingston publish publicly their ideas, who gives a flying fuck what they individually think. It is supposed to be a collective working together party. Couldn’t make it up! We will end up with some fuck up like two 20 team leagues, relegate to wherever the rest. 2m in, we have our first split, relegate the bottom 10, the top 2 play one another alone and the other 8 go on holiday. Promote 10 from the league below but they can only play one another for 2m. Then we revert back to a full league for 2m then have another split and the bottom 10 are relegated and the top 2 only play one another. The other 8 play one another but no one watches cos no one gives a fuck. As long as the mhanks win the league, and everyone gets the same money they currently do then who cares? Honestly, it’s like watching Dumb and Dumber. Chairman 1 - I think the above Chairman 2 - Chairman 3 - Chairman 1&2 - we’re from the Lowlands league. Just fuck off ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 septic will want a league where everyone agrees to lose to them and Rangers demoted to the lowland league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheriffHood 540 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 14 or 16 teams. No split. 2 go down, two come up. No play offs, unless the make it 3 up 3 down. What's difficult? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman36 3,456 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Where was the reconstruction in 2015 when hearts, us, and hivs were the first three? And only hearts made it through promotion? Because that was a perfect time for a reconstruction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman36 3,456 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 There is almost no logical explanation for reconstruction now. And it contradicts their previous logic for no reconstruction previously, and for punting us down to the bottom division. The only logic that works is that it is to benefit sellik by ensuring they have no competition. That's the only logic. It's as plain as day. What kind of sporting competition is this in Scotland now? It's done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The hustler 398 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 A 14 club SPFL where each team plays each other home & away then the league splits into two groups of 7 will lead to too many meaningless games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoastbear 1,639 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 14,16,18 team leagues or combinations thereof are nothing but an overly convoluted pail of pig swill imo. Dutch lads have got it right although I do think it is only fair to compensate those teams who lose out due to not being promoted and a reworking of the prize money so it is more equally distributed to ensure the survival of as many clubs as possible in the Scottish game essential. A position far removed from the self serving attitude displayed by many who have miraculously attained key positions within the game. As a great man once said: ". Let the others come after us. We welcome the chase. It is healthy for us. We will never hide from it. Never fear, inevitably we shall have our years of failure, and when they arrive, we must reveal tolerance and sanity." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumhoilann 6,712 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 47 minutes ago, southcoastbear said: 14,16,18 team leagues or combinations thereof are nothing but an overly convoluted pail of pig swill imo. Dutch lads have got it right although I do think it is only fair to compensate those teams who lose out due to not being promoted and a reworking of the prize money so it is more equally distributed to ensure the survival of as many clubs as possible in the Scottish game essential. A position far removed from the self serving attitude displayed by many who have miraculously attained key positions within the game. As a great man once said: ". Let the others come after us. We welcome the chase. It is healthy for us. We will never hide from it. Never fear, inevitably we shall have our years of failure, and when they arrive, we must reveal tolerance and sanity." Sadly Mr Struth never envisaged Scottish Football being run for the benefit of one club by a cabal of cellic minded individuals 😞 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heshootshescores 1,905 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 2 games per season against anyone is enough. It works well in the best league in the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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