Another battle with SPFL

[esquire8 45,274]

1 minute ago, The Dude said:

How much is DP paying to sponsor us?

Has any of DP "sponsorship" money been noted in previous accounts? 

[markem 7,407]

1 minute ago, esquire8 said:

It's the timing though. The cinch SPFL deal was announced at the start of June iirc. SPFL had written to the member clubs about the deal beforehand where we then put forward the Rule I7 about a "pre-existing contractual obligation". 

Now this SPFL lawyer is saying we were discussing stadium naming rights with cinch in June? Wouldn't that also breach that contract obligation with having cinch all over the stadium? 

I'll say it again, if Park has fucked this up then we will never be taken seriously at a boardroom level in the SPFL again.

It’s hard not to feel concerned with our track record but there are to many unknowns here imo to draw conclusions

For all we know they’ve asked to speak to us, even pitch to us and  that’s been it

Fact is it did not  progress  - had it got anywhere down the road and been lucrative I’m sure we’d have been interested so be interesting to know what did happen. 

[Bad Robot 21,513]

Just now, The Dude said:

Even the pittance cinch are paying via the SPFL is probably more...

possibly but hopefully DP and the club have this right but I wouldn’t bet any money on us 

[esquire8 45,274]

Just now, Bad Robot said:

there is no breach without a signed contract and that’s why the lawyers at these meetings are the most important people 

I'm saying if we were discussing a stadium deal with cinch then signing that contract would also surely breach said contract obligations. Guess DP would be fine with stadium naming rights and not league sponsorship?

[The Dude 20,027]

2 minutes ago, esquire8 said:

Has any of DP "sponsorship" money been noted in previous accounts? 

Pass.

[esquire8 45,274]

1 minute ago, The Dude said:

Pass.

Surely you would think there is some sort of paper trail of the club being paid for said contract obligation, even though that contract obligation had zero sponsorship on the shirt, stadium, media signage, anything.

[We Will Follow Rangers 13,397]

4 minutes ago, The Dude said:

How much is DP paying to sponsor us?

Why does our contract with POH have to be about direct sponsorship?

[The Dude 20,027]

2 minutes ago, esquire8 said:

Surely you would think there is some sort of paper trail of the club being paid for said contract obligation, even though that contract obligation had zero sponsorship on the shirt, stadium, media signage, anything.

For me, a self-described sponsor to have zero visible presence digitally, within the stadium or on any club publications - and vice versa using any Rangers branding or players to promote their own brand - tells me they aren't a sponsor. I don't think our contract with Parks of Hamilton is any different from the one they have with Celtic as bus provider.

[The Dude 20,027]

2 minutes ago, We Will Follow Rangers said:

Why does our contract with POH have to be about direct sponsorship?

Because Parks of Hamilton described themselves as a sponsor standing up for sponsors' rights.

[eskbankloyal 19,446]

As I have said repeatedly, we are heading for disaster under the absolute shambles that is the current board. We are an absolute embarrassment 

[esquire8 45,274]

3 minutes ago, eskbankloyal said:

As I have said repeatedly, we are heading for disaster under the absolute shambles that is the current board. We are an absolute embarrassment 

Is the current board now just Park and guys that agree with him? 

[We Will Follow Rangers 13,397]

2 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Because Parks of Hamilton described themselves as a sponsor standing up for sponsors' rights.

I'm not privy to the contract, redacted or otherwise, I'd suggest neither are you,  we dont know what kind of sponsorship POH give us.

Its fairly safe to assume Rangers took this battle on for bigger reasons than sponsorship, I really don't care about the rights and wrongs of us taking the fight on, I only care that we win it.

[Colin Traive 23,873]

6 minutes ago, eskbankloyal said:

As I have said repeatedly, we are heading for disaster under the absolute shambles that is the current board. We are an absolute embarrassment 

Amazing how many businessmen are extremely successful with their own companies but act like the Stoneybridge Olympic Bid Committee when it comes to running a football club.

[Bad Robot 21,513]

33 minutes ago, graeme_4 said:

It’s not something that really bothers me. It’s still Ibrox regardless. 

same as no issues if it brings in some decent revenue 

[esquire8 45,274]

4 minutes ago, We Will Follow Rangers said:

I'm not privy to the contract, redacted or otherwise, I'd suggest neither are you,  we dont know what kind of sponsorship POH give us.

Its fairly safe to assume Rangers took this battle on for bigger reasons than sponsorship, I really don't care about the rights and wrongs of us taking the fight on, I only care that we win it.

They took it on with the possibility of ousting Doncaster then maybe McLennan. 

By the end of this there will be only us losing again as an agreement will be made with Park. 

[We Will Follow Rangers 13,397]

4 minutes ago, esquire8 said:

They took it on with the possibility of ousting Doncaster then maybe McLennan. 

By the end of this there will be only us losing again as an agreement will be made with Park. 

Off course they did.

Very pessimistic assessment based entirely on a sun newspaper story, I doubt Rangers would have took this on if they thought they wouldn't win, lets wait and see.

[Rowley Birkin 10,040]

54 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said:

On a side note they can fuck off with renaming the stadium

£50 million a year for 5 years and but only if this company sponsors us

 

 

 

[esquire8 45,274]

Was the Parks sponsor contract signed the same time the club found out about cinch speaking to the SPFL on the 31st of May?

[The Dude 20,027]

31 minutes ago, We Will Follow Rangers said:

I'm not privy to the contract, redacted or otherwise, I'd suggest neither are you,  we dont know what kind of sponsorship POH give us.

Its fairly safe to assume Rangers took this battle on for bigger reasons than sponsorship, I really don't care about the rights and wrongs of us taking the fight on, I only care that we win it.

Aye, ego. 

[We Will Follow Rangers 13,397]

3 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Aye, ego. 

An opportunity to have a crack at Doncaster.

Edit, I'd hope.

[RossS1873 2,685]

This revelation should be taken with a pinch of salt. So we apparently aren't displaying the cinch logo due to a dispute over it being a rival to the chairman's company, but we apparently were talking to sell the naming rights to Ibrox to the same company? Hmm, sounds like shit stirring at best. The term 'negotiations' could mean anything. Literally cinch could have enquired into the price for naming rights, we could knock it back and that could be termed as negotiating 

[We Will Follow Rangers 13,397]

29 minutes ago, esquire8 said:

Was the Parks sponsor contract signed the same time the club found out about cinch speaking to the SPFL in May?

Probably was set down on paper due to the club finding out about the cinch deal but still an active contract before the cinch contract came into affect, I believe, in June.

 

[STEPPS BOY 77,603]

Which  sleeve do we think the Cinch emblem will end up on?

[Big Al 55 9,526]

49 minutes ago, eskbankloyal said:

As I have said repeatedly, we are heading for disaster under the absolute shambles that is the current board. We are an absolute embarrassment 

We’ll that’s not in the least bit concerning 

[esquire8 45,274]

3 minutes ago, We Will Follow Rangers said:

Probably was set down on paper due to the club finding out about the cinch deal but still an active contract before the cinch contract came into affect, I believe, in June.

Aye publically announced on the 10th of June. Member clubs were told about the potential deal well before the public announcement. Handing over a heavily redacted contract signed on the 31st of May looks sus.