The Dude 20,027 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 So is there a big uplift from Castore etc and having a million new partners? 5Beckenbauer 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddistonKnight 1,577 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 We have always been crap at selling players at a peak. And that's supposed to be our game plan. Obviously isn't working. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,708 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 16 minutes ago, falkirkNS said: Why he was punted in August I do not know, Gerrard should pay his wage he's looking for and he's had final say. Club that suffers now, need to make a statement with him n sell in January if we can recoup money. Imagine he signs a pre contract in January, you think he's pish now, wait until the crucial month of the season. We need to sell players when their value is highest. Ross Wilson needs to earn his coin now. Are you saying Gerrard should be paying him out of his own picket or should be demanding he gets that wage? Both equally as ridiculous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,708 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Know nothing about this type of thing but that's better than I was expecting tbh Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amokachi 3,440 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 12 minutes ago, falkirkNS said: Why he was punted in August I do not know, Gerrard should pay his wage he's looking for and he's had final say. Club that suffers now, need to make a statement with him n sell in January if we can recoup money. Imagine he signs a pre contract in January, you think he's pish now, wait until the crucial month of the season. We need to sell players when their value is highest. Ross Wilson needs to earn his coin now. Obviously SG really does not fancy a CH pairing without Goldson which I have to agree with. He was the managers & a lot of fans poty last season. He’s rarely injured or suspended, he’s the constant that the team needed/needs. His form has dipped yes & he’s not signed an extension (yet) which afaik is quite common with pro footballers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 56,530 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Fuck, another thread and he’s still greeting about Goldson, even worse, he’s not the only one It’s relentless isn’t it? J-Maestro, BridgeIsBlue and ForeverAndEver 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkNS 6,298 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, DBBTB said: It’s relentless isn’t it? Are we in a position financially to let the likes of the underperformed goldson run down his contract whilst trying to hold us to ransom? Financially obviously not. Should have been sold, more so when players are at their highest value. Morelos another. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 36,844 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 In fact Castore is a good point, where is that money and how much have we made? Have we not sold circa 500,000 units of merchandise since they came in? The accounts basically mean it’s CL and a player sale to put us soundly into profit or it means 6-7 player sales and we start from scratch again. The magnitude of the league this season can’t be understated, and Gerrard has to know this that if he wants a fair crack at the CL and money for players then win the league The Dude 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,708 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 In the summer were we in a position to let go of our best players with a £30/40m windfall for the league winners Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkNS 6,298 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Prso's headband said: In fact Castore is a good point, where is that money and how much have we made? Have we not sold circa 500,000 units of merchandise since they came in? The accounts basically mean it’s CL and a player sale to put us soundly into profit or it means 6-7 player sales and we start from scratch again. The magnitude of the league this season can’t be understated, and Gerrard has to know this that if he wants a fair crack at the CL and money for players then win the league What sort of money do we reckon Gerrard and his backroom staff are on ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 19,712 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 And people want us to spend in January. Very concerning. Talking about selling assets is fine, but teams will lowball the fuck out us with our poor financial position not to mention, a lot of players values have dramatically decreased. Not a positive outlook. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 time to accept that the board cant provide a sustainable business model. no money = no new players, no new players = no new success, no new success = no money....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Club has been run by clowns for 20 years , zero business sense. No business on the planet spends far more than they bring in and survives , its basic stuff. I wouldnt let any of them run a market stall….. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,708 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, sassaaaa said: Club has been run by clowns for 20 years , zero business sense. No business on the planet spends far more than they bring in and survives , its basic stuff. I wouldnt let any of them run a market stall….. You wouldn't let the owners of the current champions run a market stall? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,708 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Mental that people are surprised at this BridgeIsBlue 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser1041 9,107 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 So are we going bust or what ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser1041 9,107 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 I’ll wait on the heart and hand boys breakdown before I get worried it’s normally very in depth and pragmatic Sunglasses Ron 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said: You wouldn't let the owners of the current champions run a market stall? I have zero faith in the board and havent for years. We have been run at a loss for years and even when we started off at zero debt they fucked it up again. No business survives with higher losses every year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 19,712 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said: Mental that people are surprised at this It's is, but it's equally mental you saying it's not as bad as you expected. sassaaaa 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom1780 1,259 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 What’s worrying is our performance on pitch currently won’t win us the league our assets are playing shitey and value decreasing We need to improve and quickly BlueAvenger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 19,712 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, sassaaaa said: I have zero faith in the board and havent for years. We have been run at a loss for years and even when we started off at zero debt they fucked it up again. No business survives with higher losses every year. They canny win. They took some calculated risk by not selling below current market value (Morelos) and giving us a team capable of winning the league. They managed the club into a position where champions League qualification would have plugged a big part of the hole this year but we fucked it. The current board have went above and beyond imo. Ladytonbear and Real Ranger 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,708 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, sassaaaa said: I have zero faith in the board and havent for years. We have been run at a loss for years and even when we started off at zero debt they fucked it up again. No business survives with higher losses every year. Nobody wants to invest in Scottish football and the idiots who run the game are incapable of getting a decent TV/sponsorship deal to bring in revenue. We need to spend money on players to compete against the them. How do you propose we compete on the park and turn a profit? 4 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said: It's is, but it's equally mental you saying it's not as bad as you expected. We lost £16m last year. 6 Europa League games last season behind closed doors at roughly £1m per game in ticket sales we lost out on, no matchday revenue for the entire season, we added to the squad and didn't sell anyone. What were you expecting? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboBear 162 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, sassaaaa said: I have zero faith in the board and havent for years. We have been run at a loss for years and even when we started off at zero debt they fucked it up again. No business survives with higher losses every year. The current board inherited a mess. They may have made some poor descicions, but they've stumped up when we needed them to. They've put in tens of millions that they'll probably never get back. Real Ranger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 19,712 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said: Nobody wants to invest in Scottish football and the idiots who run the game are incapable of getting a decent TV/sponsorship deal to bring in revenue. We need to spend money on players to compete against the them. How do you propose we compete on the park and turn a profit? We lost £16m last year. 6 Europa League games last season behind closed doors at roughly £1m per game in ticket sales we lost out on, no matchday revenue for the entire season, we added to the squad and didn't sell anyone. What were you expecting? Over £20m losses as most people suggested. Coupled with nobody seeing that a a positive result or not as bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 This is interesting: CASH The Group has worked to maintain its cash despite disruption to its activities by:- • changing of our merchant providers, to improve the terms on our season ticket cash flows, supplying cash up front instead of across the season. • utilisation of government schemes and assistance, including payment deferrals for VAT and employment taxes and the job retention scheme for non-playing staff. • the deferral of wage payments for high earning staff. Who isn't getting their payments and if its players, is this impacting on performance? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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