Jimfanciesthedude 25,513 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Negri's lovechild said: We didn't just scrape the league though. We won it at a canter, so it can't be a fluke. The drop off this season is massive. I think the players have it in them to get near the levels of last season, but the mentality has to change. We saw on Sunday that they just don't want it anymore. We did win it at a canter, however a lot of that was to do with the utter implosion over in the east end, absolutely no denying that, two years on the bounce pre covid we had a new years collapse due to them putting pressure on us, last season they fucked off to dubai, came back and dropped something like 9 points out of 12, we had literally no pressure after new year Leicester won the league by ten points that season, was that not a fluke? The team did well last season i wont deny that, but to say there wasnt things going way in our favour that we had no control over is daft imo. HG5 and Malkytfp1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,513 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Colin Traive said: Good interview with Mario Melchiot on SSN this morning talking about how Gio’s appointment has made headlines in Holland. All very positive apparently. Not familiar with Doekhi to be honest but coming to play with a Dutch management team for a couple of years before going to England doesn’t seem that crazy an idea. It does when they players current club slaps a few mill on him as price tag minimum, we need to sell unless the board want to fund another rebuild Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetToTheChoppa 6,873 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 23 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said: The prospect of signing Souttar terrifies me. One of the most injury prone players I've seen. He's no a prospect anymore. He's 25. Doekhi has a contract until June 2022 so would probably need to pay about £3m for him imo. Money we don't have and money we wouldn't make off getting rid of Goldson. Still think it's a knee jerk reaction wanting Goldson gone. If we get offered a decent fee I'd take but he has to play until then. You do realise it's November 2021 now ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 19,540 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 minute ago, GetToTheChoppa said: You do realise it's November 2021 now ? No shit Sherlock. My point is, if Goldson goes and we sign this guy on a pre contact we have the remainder of this season to go without a replacement for Goldson. If we want to buy this guy 6 months earlier it could cost us upward for £3m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,513 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I take it souttar is the current "scottish player of the moment" guy, fucking hell, a 25 year old thats managed two seasons of over 30 games in his career, and in the last two and a half years has managed 32 games in total, Malkytfp1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR3 12,845 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: I take it souttar is the current "scottish player of the moment" guy, fucking hell, a 25 year old thats managed two seasons of over 30 games in his career, and in the last two and a half years has managed 32 games in total, Not really. But he is one of the best passing out from the back and general defenders in the league, a rangers fan and a snip at £500k. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 19,540 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 minute ago, CR3 said: Not really. But he is one of the best passing out from the back and general defenders in the league, a Rangers fan and a snip at £500k. He a Rangers fan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR3 12,845 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Just now, Malkytfp1 said: He a Rangers fan? Aye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 56,283 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, RFC55 said: He's not good enough and nor will he be At 25 he isn’t even young anymore either. Malkytfp1 and RM Monitor And Standards Officer 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: I take it souttar is the current "scottish player of the moment" guy, fucking hell, a 25 year old thats managed two seasons of over 30 games in his career, and in the last two and a half years has managed 32 games in total, That makes one more than a 25-year-old Niko Katic has then. J-Maestro and Clemdog 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,513 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 minute ago, The Dude said: That makes one more than a 25-year-old Niko Katic has then. Theres 3 in katic' career, funny how he managed 2 no bother before gerrard fucked him about 6 minutes ago, DBBTB said: At 25 he isn’t even young anymore either. Would you take souttar? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Theres 3 in katic' career, funny how he managed 2 no bother before gerrard fucked him about Would you take souttar? There's only two in that screenshot. Did Gerrard fuck him about or was he simply not up to it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Traive 23,771 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Now we’re into the comparing injuries stage of the debate. Worth remembering that Goldson had major concerns about ever playing again but we took a gamble and he played eighty-odd successive games for us and was a rock last season. Curiously, his issue was to do with his heart, similar to his attitude on Sunday. HG5, J-Maestro and DMax399 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,295 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Souttar on a free is a no brainer for me. RM Monitor And Standards Officer and Laudrup1984 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Viking 702 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 28 minutes ago, RFC55 said: He's not good enough and nor will he be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,513 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Just now, The Dude said: There's only two in that screenshot. Souttar has also played more games in the last two and a half years. Did Gerrard fuck him about or was he simply not up to it? If you really want to be pernickety and rule out the 30 game season then fair enough but you were still wrong about katic Oh and katic has played 38 times in the last 2 and a half seasons, souttar has played 32, katic in that same timeframe missed a full season due to an ACL injury Heshootshescores 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Dude 20,027 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Just now, Jimbeamjunior said: If you really want to be pernickety and rule out the 30 game season then fair enough but you were still wrong about katic Oh and katic has played 38 times in the last 2 and a half seasons, souttar has played 32, katic in that same timeframe missed a full season due to an ACL injury In the same time scale Souttar has been outtwice with a ruptured achilles. How exactly was Katic fucked about by Gerrard? He'd played 90 minutes of the last 11/15 league games before he blew his knee up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,295 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: If you really want to be pernickety and rule out the 30 game season then fair enough but you were still wrong about katic Oh and katic has played 38 times in the last 2 and a half seasons, souttar has played 32, katic in that same timeframe missed a full season due to an ACL injury Why are you including Katic's injury record but not Souttar's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 37 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: We did win it at a canter, however a lot of that was to do with the utter implosion over in the east end, We went unbeaten in the league, credit where its due and let's not use their collapse detract from that. The Dude, Essandoh, Jamie0202 and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,513 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Just now, The Dude said: In the same time scale Souttar has been outtwice with a ruptured achilles. How exactly was Katic fucked about by Gerrard? He'd played 90 minutes of the last 11/15 league games before he blew his knee up? You dont think katic was fucked about by gerrard, playing well forming a partnership with goldson, only to get binned for worrall then constantly dropped and recalled with either worral or edmundson Souttar has had 3 ruptured achilles injuries, imo that is a chance we should not be taking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Dude 20,027 Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 Just now, plumbGER said: We went unbeaten in the league, credit where its due and let's not use their collapse detract from that. Even if they'd been good last season, we went unbeaten in the top flight for the second time in 130 years, kept more clean sheets than we ever have and conceded fewer goals than before. we won that title far more than they lost it. plumbGER, graeme_4, Inigo and 6 others 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Just now, The Dude said: Even if they'd been good last season, we went unbeaten in the top flight for the second time in 130 years, kept more clean sheets than we ever have and conceded fewer goals than before. we won that title far more than they lost it. Exactly, anybody saying anything otherwise are kidding themselves on. scottyscott1963, Negri's lovechild, offminorthreat and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 37,296 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, The Dude said: There's only two in that screenshot. Did Gerrard fuck him about or was he simply not up to it? I think he’s a good 3rd choice CB, but he’s had a couple of wobbles as well as being thrown under a bus by Gerrard. His dropping to get Worrall in the was mad at the time, and even worse in hindsight. And after a rocky game or two his ‘we just need Helander back now’ comment was an arsehole move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,513 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said: Why are you including Katic's injury record but not Souttar's? I did in my most recent post, 3 ruptured achilles injuries is something we should avoid imo, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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