OrangeRab 3,395 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Colin Traive said: Ironically, our best source of encouragement in this current state actually comes from across the city. In the 55 season, they imploded with Lennon and Liewell among the casualties. They ended the season in complete disarray with Eddie Howe leading them on for months. They found Postecoglou, he rebuilt almost from scratch and now they’re clear favourites for back to back titles. If they can do it, so can we but I’d rather we didn’t dive any deeper into the manure because it just makes the recovery that much tougher. He’s spent close to 40 million though. Which is money we just don’t have. Can’t think of any serious transfer fee we can expect either now for one of our players. But the time constraint is a valid point. He needed two windows to get them firing. So if we want to have a shot at next year. We need to punt Wilson and Gio now Colin Traive 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie0202 13,093 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Andyy53 said: This is his style, it was the same dross at Feyenoord as it is here. How many Feyenoord games did you watch when Gio was in charge Andy boy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ibrox Derry 9,226 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Has anyone got a list of when injured players are "likely" to return. I know "likely" is a very loose ballpark. Surely some will be available after WC? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 87,343 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, The Ibrox Derry said: Has anyone got a list of when injured players are "likely" to return. I know "likely" is a very loose ballpark. Surely some will be available after WC? All available after WC The Ibrox Derry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ibrox Derry 9,226 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Just now, .Williamson. said: All available after WC Oh well, let's hope so. I've nae anger left, may aswell get behind him if he is staying then. See how he gets on in the New Year with a full squad available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,862 Posted November 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2022 We can’t put up with this pretence that everything will come good we were fucking atrocious in the main last night BlueKnight87, Almacger, Colin Traive and 11 others 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 87,343 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Just now, RFC55 said: We can’t put up with this pretence that everything will come good we were fucking atrocious in the main last night Don’t have a choice mate. Hopefully he leaves in the summer of his own accord RM Monitor And Standards Officer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 15,077 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 6 hours ago, A.T.G said: Kent and Tillman got it tight a few times they fucked it up. Thought we were pish tbh and any half decent side would have caught us on the break. I’m not looking forward to playing the scum with Tav, King, Davies and Barasic as the back four. Sands and Lundstram together with Tillman who is as energetic as a 50 year old is some fucking midfield man. Horrible to watch tbh We should have a lot of injured players back by then. No need to slash your wrists yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,617 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 49 minutes ago, .Williamson. said: All available after WC Money is on souttar being injured before new year again Dan Deacon, Leighton loyal and Negri's lovechild 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylegib 516 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Money is on souttar being injured before new year again I'd add Jack and Roofe to that aswell. Negri's lovechild 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyy53 26 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 6 hours ago, Jamie0202 said: How many Feyenoord games did you watch when Gio was in charge Andy boy? Listened to about 4 different podcasts when we appointed him with Feyenoord fans who were invited on to get a scope into what kind of manager he is. NorthernLights 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post STEPPS BOY 77,601 Posted November 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2022 Those holding onto some hope that injured players will turn it all around are kidding themselves on. Probably only talking Lawrence and Goldson who would be in starting line up and we still have no set style of play, no set starting line up and zero athleticism amongst squad. SeparateEntityMyArse, J-Maestro, Andyy53 and 11 others 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Stubbs 14 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: Those holding onto some hope that injured players will turn it all around are kidding themselves on. Probably only talking Lawrence and Goldson who would be in starting line up and we still have no set style of play, no set starting line up and zero athleticism amongst squad. Depends on the attitude of the players who return from injury Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 37,585 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: Those holding onto some hope that injured players will turn it all around are kidding themselves on. Probably only talking Lawrence and Goldson who would be in starting line up and we still have no set style of play, no set starting line up and zero athleticism amongst squad. Even with a fully fit squad, our CMs and wingers are appalling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 The ones injured are every bit as pish as the rest of the squad playing. This guy is never turning this around , shame the experts running the club refuse to accept this. Kylegib 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
16BlueSherbert90 19,654 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Andyy53 said: Listened to about 4 different podcasts when we appointed him with Feyenoord fans who were invited on to get a scope into what kind of manager he is. Grim that this sums us up to a tee at present. NorthernLights 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1963 910 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 10 hours ago, Jamie0202 said: Out of who is available who should he have started instead of Matondo? Wright, while excellent IMO when he came on against tired legs, and the catalyst for our win, has received tons of abuse on here for his playing ability. I would've played a different shape to be honest , however GIO plays the same way hence Matondo started , his cameo on Sunday forewarned us so last nights performance wasn't a surprise ,if Gio maintains the same shape on Saturday then Wright should start. It seems Matondo is only suited to the left side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1963 910 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Another issue many of us have with Gio is his refusal to change tactics, a case in point is sticking with outswinging corners , we seldom capatilise and often succumb to a breakaway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoGeo7 11,284 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, mark1963 said: Another issue many of us have with Gio is his refusal to change tactics, a case in point is sticking with outswinging corners , we seldom capatilise and often succumb to a breakaway. Spot on. The corners clearly don’t work and he sticks to the same corner every time. You want to be dropping the ball in between the keeper and the centre backs with the forward momentum of the ball you generally just need a glance. With the ball moving away from the goal you need to generate power which will only happen if the player is making a run into the box (our players largely have a standing start). Even when it’s played short it’s then an outswinger, then we get cross from open play which are also outswingers. We are also piss poor at counter attacks ourselves. Last night in the second half I can’t recall who won the ball back just inside our half, played it to Tilman and instead of turning and going forward with the ball he rolled it sideways to borna when he had space and time to turn and run at the defence. This let hearts get their shape back, the ball then came to him again and once more played it safely. I don’t know if the above is an example of the players issues or the managers or both, but it happens an awful lot. If you win back possession the other team have lost their defensive shape and that’s when you run at the defence as they’ll rush to player on the ball which creates space for your other attackers. If Gio is trying to do this the players aren’t listening and if he isn’t telling them to do this what is he telling them to do? mark1963 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowley Birkin 10,040 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, NeoGeo7 said: Spot on. The corners clearly don’t work and he sticks to the same corner every time. You want to be dropping the ball in between the keeper and the centre backs with the forward momentum of the ball you generally just need a glance. With the ball moving away from the goal you need to generate power which will only happen if the player is making a run into the box (our players largely have a standing start). Even when it’s played short it’s then an outswinger, then we get cross from open play which are also outswingers. We are also piss poor at counter attacks ourselves. Last night in the second half I can’t recall who won the ball back just inside our half, played it to Tilman and instead of turning and going forward with the ball he rolled it sideways to borna when he had space and time to turn and run at the defence. This let hearts get their shape back, the ball then came to him again and once more played it safely. I don’t know if the above is an example of the players issues or the managers or both, but it happens an awful lot. If you win back possession the other team have lost their defensive shape and that’s when you run at the defence as they’ll rush to player on the ball which creates space for your other attackers. If Gio is trying to do this the players aren’t listening and if he isn’t telling them to do this what is he telling them to do? i dont know how many times ive seen this under gio, it's obvious this is what he tells the players rather than attacking, i did my nut in seeing borna do this against ajax and you could tell he wasn't happy having to stop and play back to the midfielder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goofy The Scot 698 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, mark1963 said: Another issue many of us have with Gio is his refusal to change tactics, a case in point is sticking with outswinging corners , we seldom capatilise and often succumb to a breakaway. We had 20 corners against Saints, fuckin' 20! and did the square root of fuck all with each and every one of them, actually disgusts me. mark1963 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,862 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Goofy The Scot said: We had 20 corners against Saints, fuckin' 20! and did the square root of fuck all with each and every one of them, actually disgusts me. 1.27% of corners in football worldwide leads to goals, they’re not the goal scoring opportunity people seem to think they are Jimfanciesthedude and J-Maestro 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayro 3,515 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Corners are another strange one for me. We are consistently going with out swinging corners which imo limits your chances, but we also take a winger out to stand next to the taker and very rarely play it short so what is the point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Vandenbroucke 27,010 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Don’t know if it’s already been mentioned on here, but I thought it was interesting that the stadium announcer last night didn’t introduce Gio, Vos and Makaay as he usually would. Seems to be an indication the club know the manager is unpopular. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,617 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, RFC55 said: 1.27% of corners in football worldwide leads to goals, they’re not the goal scoring opportunity people seem to think they are Also, i didnt know gio took all of our corners, im defo sure I've seen barisic and tav take some, and if they see outwingers arent working and dont decide to take it upon themselves to change it then they are every bit as culpable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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