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[The Specky Forum Organiser 65,652]

Just now, Kylegib said:

We can't keep Jack fit, we need better quality if we're to have any realistic chance of winning the title next season. 

Highly unlikely we get someone 'better' than him

How was I rambling?

[OrangeRab 2,896]

7 minutes ago, The Specky Liar said:

Did you miss this part of my post?

'would imagine he'd take a wage cut and be happy with a reduced role.'

He's not someone I would put in the bracket of mentally weak anyway, technically limited and lost a yard maybe, but not mentally weak

I’m not against it if he’d accept peanuts. Fits the domestic quota. Still can do a different job in the last 10 minutes than anyone else we have. With those nicely timed late runs when opposition are tired. 
 

But there’s a lot of cherry picking around squad mentality. Can’t have it both ways. Arfield has been at the heart of some of our worst performances in pressure matches in midfield and been here for this underperforming period. But he’s a lot less important to us than a Goldson. So for those who claim loser mentality is such an ingrained problem, just thought they’d want him, Davis etc gone. 

[bluenoz 31,079]

We are a far more rounded team when Jack plays. That has been proven through time. When I said long-term contract, I meant more than a one-year deal. Probably a two-year contract.

As for Arfield, I see him as a leader and mentor around the team. I would have no issue with one more year. 

[The Specky Forum Organiser 65,652]

Just now, OrangeRab said:

I’m not against it if he’d accept peanuts. Fits the domestic quota. Still can do a different job in the last 10 minutes than anyone else we have. With those nicely timed late runs when opposition are tired. 
 

But there’s a lot of cherry picking around squad mentality. Can’t have it both ways. Arfield has been at the heart of some of our worst performances in midfield and been here for this underperforming period. But he’s a lot less important to us than a Goldson. So for those who claim loser mentality is such a problem, just thought they’d want him, Davis etc gone. 

From watching him play for the last 5 years I wouldn't say I've ever seen him chuck it in the way many have and he's one of the few who strike me as a good influence on the club

Not disputing he's been apart of some horror shows, as I said he isn't the best technically and has lost a yard or two and he was quite a dynamic player

[BlueSuedeSambas 54,237]

I think Arfield has been a really good servant for us but he’s 34 years old and has played 283 minutes since Beale came in.  It’s time for him to move on. 

[Loyal72 11,781]

1 hour ago, johanhentze said:

The thing about FFP is that spending money on things like NEH doesnt count. You cant just spend all your money on fees and wages as there is a limit on how much you can spend. However, I believe something like NEH raises our revenue which in turn means we can spend more on players/wages. I might be wrong.

The money that we spent though on EH etc was from competition prizes. I.e reaching the Europa League final.

We could've have used it for player wages and financing new players, we chose not to.

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27 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said:

I think Arfield has been a really good servant for us but he’s 34 years old and has played 283 minutes since Beale came in.  It’s time for him to move on. 

In those minutes he's scored the same amount as Kent and Cantwell combined

Don't get me wrong I'm not absolutely desperate for him to stay, just think for what he would cost/accept it would be worth it

[The Specky Forum Organiser 65,652]

18 minutes ago, Loyal72 said:

The money that we spent though on EH etc was from competition prizes. I.e reaching the Europa League final.

We could've have used it for player wages and financing new players, we chose not to.

Not as simple as that.

[Kylegib 516]

45 minutes ago, Loyal72 said:

The money that we spent though on EH etc was from competition prizes. I.e reaching the Europa League final.

We could've have used it for player wages and financing new players, we chose not to.

Yet another crazy decision 

[johanhentze 14,294]

1 hour ago, Loyal72 said:

The money that we spent though on EH etc was from competition prizes. I.e reaching the Europa League final.

We could've have used it for player wages and financing new players, we chose not to.

Yes, but you still have to grow your business/revenue in order to be able to spend more money on wages. We were at the limit and couldnt spend the cash on fees/wages as we were already maxed out - we were on the FFP watchlist. NEH provides another income steam (grows the business) and therefore lets us spend more on the footballing side.

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1 hour ago, Kylegib said:

Yet another crazy decision 

In what way?

[graeme_4 34,920]

2 hours ago, BlueSuedeSambas said:

I think Arfield has been a really good servant for us but he’s 34 years old and has played 283 minutes since Beale came in.  It’s time for him to move on. 

And he’s been shit for 280 of those minutes. Absolutely done as a player for us.

Surely we’ve learned our lesson from giving Davis and McGregor new deals. 

[FlippinEck 3,717]

A lot being made over Beale's comments about potential players in and of course nothing conrete in yet but I fancy us to be looking at Jake Cooper, out of contract and rumoured to be on £10k a week, if it was a case of Helander out, Cooper in, would folk be happy? I have no idea how he has been performing this season and apparently Beale said he is not on his radar but it screams the kind of signing we would make.

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,770]

42 minutes ago, FlippinEck said:

A lot being made over Beale's comments about potential players in and of course nothing conrete in yet but I fancy us to be looking at Jake Cooper, out of contract and rumoured to be on £10k a week, if it was a case of Helander out, Cooper in, would folk be happy? I have no idea how he has been performing this season and apparently Beale said he is not on his radar but it screams the kind of signing we would make.

If helander is indeed gone then aye we need another centre half as souttar is one sore finger away from another 6 months out no doubt 

[bluenoz 31,079]

50 minutes ago, FlippinEck said:

A lot being made over Beale's comments about potential players in and of course nothing conrete in yet but I fancy us to be looking at Jake Cooper, out of contract and rumoured to be on £10k a week, if it was a case of Helander out, Cooper in, would folk be happy? I have no idea how he has been performing this season and apparently Beale said he is not on his radar but it screams the kind of signing we would make.

 

When Porteous and Hendry are preferred to Cooper in the Scotland set-up, it doesn't generate a lot of confidence, even if it is only Clarke's opinion.

It seems like we have been linked with him forever. I would prefer a fit Helander, but I expect he will be playing in Sweden next year.

[FlippinEck 3,717]

17 minutes ago, bluenoz said:

When Porteous and Hendry are preferred to Cooper in the Scotland set-up, it doesn't generate a lot of confidence, even if it is only Clarke's opinion.

It seems like we have been linked with him forever. I would prefer a fit Helander, but I expect he will be playing in Sweden next year.

Are you confusing him with Liam Cooper? I also would prefer a fit Helander but I think it's maybe time to let him go now.

[bluenoz 31,079]

10 minutes ago, FlippinEck said:

Are you confusing him with Liam Cooper? I also would prefer a fit Helander but I think it's maybe time to let him go now.

 

Yes. Sorry, mate. I got mixed up there.

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On 24/03/2023 at 17:51, graeme_4 said:

And he’s been shit for 280 of those minutes. Absolutely done as a player for us.

Surely we’ve learned our lesson from giving Davis and McGregor new deals. 

McGregor and Davis were given new contracts and expected to be starters

[Kylegib 516]

2 hours ago, FlippinEck said:

A lot being made over Beale's comments about potential players in and of course nothing conrete in yet but I fancy us to be looking at Jake Cooper, out of contract and rumoured to be on £10k a week, if it was a case of Helander out, Cooper in, would folk be happy? I have no idea how he has been performing this season and apparently Beale said he is not on his radar but it screams the kind of signing we would make.

He's a player we seem constantly linked with so wouldn't be surprised if we brought him in although I'm not sure he'll get in the team ahead of Davies,Souttar or Goldson 

[TamCoopz 19,605]

Quickest 48 hours ever 

[KeyserSoze 14,654]

1 hour ago, The Specky Liar said:

McGregor and Davis were given new contracts and expected to be starters

I’m sure Davis was never expected to be anything else but a squad player knowing who was brought in and who was recovering. His one year extension was more about backup.  

[JCDBigBear 10,832]

On 24/03/2023 at 15:40, BlueSuedeSambas said:

I think Arfield has been a really good servant for us but he’s 34 years old and has played 283 minutes since Beale came in.  It’s time for him to move on. 

Arfield has been good as an impact player from the bench.  I'd have no problem giving him an extended contract.  34 isn't old these days.

[JCDBigBear 10,832]

49 minutes ago, Kylegib said:

He's a player we seem constantly linked with so wouldn't be surprised if we brought him in although I'm not sure he'll get in the team ahead of Davies,Souttar or Goldson 

He plays on the left side for Millwall and is a big guy.  I'd rather have someone of his size than Davies.  Assuming Cooper has ability of course.

[bluenoz 31,079]

I think Davies gets underplayed in here. I think he has been solid since he finally started playing.

Souttar has his work cut out for him unless we change the formation to a back 3.

[bluenoz 31,079]