SeparateEntityMyArse 55,247 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 3 minutes ago, The Specky Forum Organiser said: I wouldn't have any manager accountable for failing with this squad this season. That's a nonsense tbf. Rangers_no1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,287 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Just now, SeparateEntityMyArse said: That's a nonsense tbf. So you think we could get a manager within our budget to win the league with this group pf players? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sausagetrunks 6,204 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 the team is shite, at least 6-7 starters needed. forward line especially. the team is beyond mediocre. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loyal72 13,414 Posted July 21 Popular Post Share Posted July 21 Sack Clement, and still be left with the same utter squad of pish, to get another manager in, to end up sacking them too? The board are getting an easy ride. They caused this shitshow, they've overseen the standards plummeting year on year, spending our money elsewhere, employing staff that hand out ridiculous deals to players and are unable to move them on. It's awful, and people are just continuing with the norm of thinking it's all fine barring a manager or some changes to the squad. bassettger, Ladytonbear, Hadron Collider and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 55,247 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 1 minute ago, The Specky Forum Organiser said: So you think we could get a manager within our budget to win the league with this group pf players? I wouldn't be allowing them to fail and for it to be acceptable as it's only the Board to be blamed. And as it is I'm not expecting Clement nor any replacement to win the league, but I do have to see continous improvement to give the confidence that they can do soon. That's lacking in what's on display with Clements team and the shape, style, formations,team selections, motivation etc is on him not the Board. No Rangers manager should be getting away with losses to Ross County, Killie, Motherwell, the sheep without their position being questioned. GD93 and HG5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangersross 6,686 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Until the long-standing squad issues are fixed, it's going to be almost impossible for any manager to succeed. We can't buy the quality we need because too much of our budget is committed to paying for dross. Hadron Collider and HG5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sausagetrunks 6,204 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 9 minutes ago, Loyal72 said: Sack Clement, and still be left with the same utter squad of pish, to get another manager in, to end up sacking them too? The board are getting an easy ride. They caused this shitshow, they've overseen the standards plummeting year on year, spending our money elsewhere, employing staff that hand out ridiculous deals to players and are unable to move them on. It's awful, and people are just continuing with the norm of thinking it's all fine barring a manager or some changes to the squad. Rangers might not have to sack Clement. He might walk, the way the board are behaving. the team is fucking garbage. HG5, bassettger and Loyal72 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 31,271 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 I am still backing Phil to get it right, but he has to be backed by the board, we have to get shite players out and better ones in before the window closes. If that does not happen he will be gone and fuck knows where we go from there. HG5, SteveEarle and Ladytonbear 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 13,414 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 If the board cannot fund Rangers to the level we all expect, at least to be in the fucking picture, with a decent squad at minimum ffs. Then what are we doing? sausagetrunks, Bears r us, HG5 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnymate1690 771 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 I think its 50/50 on clement just now . He needs backing so hopefully we will see some outgoings in the coming weeks that allow us to do that. However he should be able to work with the group he has to either have them fit into his ideal style of play or if he doesnt feel he has that then he needs to find a way to play to our strengths. Thats what a coach/manager should do and i dont think we're seeing that. Im not reading too much into our pre-season as its mostly about fitness but the players dont look like they have a clue. Needs sorted asap for hearts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rowley Birkin 9,970 Posted July 21 Popular Post Share Posted July 21 everyone is saying 'why is he playing dessers wright,lawrence, davies, matondo etc who fuck is there to play we have a team of losers on high wages and long contracts they don't give a shit and wont leave unless they get bigger wages which is highly unlikely sadly no matter who the manager is we are fucked until we get a total clear out and that wont happen until these contracts are finished ZZed, SteveEarle, Hadron Collider and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,506 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 2 minutes ago, Loyal72 said: If the board cannot fund Rangers to the level we all expect, at least to be in the fucking picture, with a decent squad at minimum ffs. Then what are we doing? With how FFP is there isn't a board who could fund us to the level we all expect. It's why things like NEH and the stadium upgrade are happening as it helps you have more flexibility with regards to It. A bit of creative accounting as they say Darth Bear and JCDBigBear 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJacketRFC 7,608 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 1 hour ago, graeme_4 said: I’ll start off with prefacing this post by saying I like him, I think he’s a real leader / winner, and that I think he should be better supported with funds to strengthen - but… This team appears worse than what Beale left him, and could potentially be worse than some of our pre-Gerrard failures. Our style of play is basically lump it up to the wide players, which is ok (if you’re into that) when it’s Sima but when it’s McCausland / Wright / Matondo it just doesn’t work. I don’t really see any individuals or us collectively getting any better. It’s a worry tbh. Selection choices are bizarre - persisted with Lammers for ages, Lawrence now. Cup final and last couple of OFs were littered with bad choices. We absolutely collapsed last season, which while not unexpected, was as bad as we’ve seen in years and he was unable to stop the slide. We have signed two players Nsiala and Igamane who apparently aren’t anywhere near being able to play when resources are so limited. Board correctly takes heat for it, but starting to think PC has to be doing more / better as well or we’re in real trouble. My biggest worry is we end up with Pedro Caixinha standard of players and we are back where we started. I can't see Clement allowing that tbh but just hope we bring in some new faces the lack of transfers in key areas is concerning Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,971 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 At the moment, I have no idea what the team selection will be for the first competitive game. The friendlies so far have been a jumble of players simply to get a run out. It's impossible to tell how we will perform this season after the friendlies so far. I would expect the game against Union Berlin to be his first choice starting eleven. That should let us see more clearly what we can expect. bluenoz and HG5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,287 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Just now, BlueVanguard said: My biggest worry is we end up with Pedro Caixinha standard of players and we are back where we started. I can't see Clement allowing that tbh but just hope we bring in some new faces the lack of transfers in key areas is concerning We're already there. GD93 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooperson 993 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 1 hour ago, graeme_4 said: I’ll start off with prefacing this post by saying I like him, I think he’s a real leader / winner, and that I think he should be better supported with funds to strengthen - but… This team appears worse than what Beale left him, and could potentially be worse than some of our pre-Gerrard failures. Our style of play is basically lump it up to the wide players, which is ok (if you’re into that) when it’s Sima but when it’s McCausland / Wright / Matondo it just doesn’t work. I don’t really see any individuals or us collectively getting any better. It’s a worry tbh. Selection choices are bizarre - persisted with Lammers for ages, Lawrence now. Cup final and last couple of OFs were littered with bad choices. We absolutely collapsed last season, which while not unexpected, was as bad as we’ve seen in years and he was unable to stop the slide. We have signed two players Nsiala and Igamane who apparently aren’t anywhere near being able to play when resources are so limited. Board correctly takes heat for it, but starting to think PC has to be doing more / better as well or we’re in real trouble. He can only deal with the cards he has been dealt with tbh, the board have lied to him if the rumours are true, I wouldn't be surprised if he chucks it, We seen it with Gerrard, he mentioned fix the roof when the sun is out and got nothing, Gio got us Champions League football and was giving no money aswell, But the guy is a winner and he has won leagues before. He just needs backed by this board Hadron Collider and bassettger 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowley Birkin 9,970 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 2 minutes ago, BlueVanguard said: My biggest worry is we end up with Pedro Caixinha standard of players and we are back where we started. I can't see Clement allowing that tbh but just hope we bring in some new faces the lack of transfers in key areas is concerning isnt that what we've got? GD93 and graeme_4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJacketRFC 7,608 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Just now, The Specky Forum Organiser said: We're already there. Can't say for sure still have to see the new signings play more games. Jefte looked good against Ajax but Amad had him on toast yesterday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJacketRFC 7,608 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Just now, Rowley Birkin said: isnt that what we've got? Wouldn't say it's that bad yet. We still have to see what we are dealing with and the ins and outs. Come the transfer window shutting though and the new boys are not up to it and we still have Wright and Dessers and Matondo, Davies I will be pressing the panic button Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
superallysbears 8,168 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 If we can't get freshness and a bit of quality in before the window shuts then he'll be firefighting, I back the manager but a strong start to the season is imperative, only way the fog lifts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,287 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 1 minute ago, BlueVanguard said: Can't say for sure still have to see the new signings play more games. Jefte looked good against Ajax but Amad had him on toast yesterday. If we're doing a joint 11 from the current lot and the 17/18 squad then I've got at least 6 from then getting in it GD93 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooperson 993 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 28 minutes ago, .Williamson. said: I don’t think we should look as bad as we do even with these players. Squads shite but it’s still comfortably better than the rest of the league outwidth celtic I can see us dropping points to Hearts in the opening game but I don’t think it’s acceptable Nah, that squad is still good enough to beat Hearts imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 34,052 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Honeymoon’s well over. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJacketRFC 7,608 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 2 minutes ago, The Specky Forum Organiser said: If we're doing a joint 11 from the current lot and the 17/18 squad then I've got at least 6 from then getting in it Suppose we need to wait and see mate. If Tav does go then the money could potentially be spend on areas we need the players. Hoping we sign some players who hate losing and are mentality monsters. Lots of great players out there and hoping some of the young boys take whatever opportunity is given to them. The Specky Forum Organiser 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJacketRFC 7,608 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 3 minutes ago, Cooperson said: Nah, that squad is still good enough to beat Hearts imo You really think so? Shankland will be like a dog with 10 dicks on heat if we are starting Davies centre back. Cooperson 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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