HG5 12,194 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 42 minutes ago, GA1972 said: The slip is just one of those things but the rest of his play today was dreadful. He didn’t want the ball either, instant passes to Souttar or Butland any time it was near him Looked utterly lost at times. VanVeenRangers 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madina 4,230 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 I thought he'd be a decent enough signing after being Twente captain and them getting into the CL places last season. Hasn't been a great start for him, an OG v Motherwell and that abomination display today. That IKEA trip has a lot to answer for Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,462 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 1 hour ago, OrangeRab said: Some shout tbf. Had a weird feeling of dejavu watching him today. You thought he was reminiscent to Darren McGregor? He was pish but come to fuck....McGregor was an average championship player at best J-Maestro 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie0202 13,002 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 22 minutes ago, hammer93 said: You thought he was reminiscent to Darren McGregor? He was pish but come to fuck....McGregor was an average championship player at best Darren McGregor was an excellent Championship player and an average SPL player. Still can't believe the injustice with his challenge on Morelos with Hibs though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspiderman 1,303 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Early days but looks no better than the duds at centre back we have had to ship out in recent years. BlueAvenger and Zappa6995 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,462 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 11 minutes ago, Jamie0202 said: Darren McGregor was an excellent Championship player and an average SPL player. Still can't believe the injustice with his challenge on Morelos with Hibs though. Not for me, he was part of a shambolic defence when we finished second to Hearts Ambrogio 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie0202 13,002 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 2 minutes ago, hammer93 said: Not for me, he was part of a shambolic defence when we finished second to Hearts He was our POTY. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,462 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 2 minutes ago, Jamie0202 said: He was our POTY. In a team that finished second...seriously mate is that the level you accepted? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 32,324 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Imagine if he had a couple of decent defenders around him. Fucksakes he’s just in the door and he’s got a fucking absconder of a right back who is supposed to be a captain who should be talking through the game to his defence partners. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,460 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Totally different type of centre back that i expected us to sign; clearly relies heavily on his reading of the game, and that isnt up to speed yet. He’s not started well, but I’ll reserve judgement for now is I’ve seen CB’s like him struggle initially and then find their feet. Needs to up his game quickly Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
psb07158 35,291 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 1 hour ago, hammer93 said: You thought he was reminiscent to Darren McGregor? He was pish but come to fuck....McGregor was an average championship player at best His style of play, absolutely He looks like he always wants to go to ground which is exactly why McGregor was garbage at the higher level for us because good players take advantage of defenders who go to ground quickly - the game has moved on He’s OBVIOUSLY a higher level overall than Darren McGregor was but based on what he showed today, it’s not looking good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie0202 13,002 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 3 hours ago, hammer93 said: In a team that finished second...seriously mate is that the level you accepted? No Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleBJK 929 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Another dud by the looks of it. Hopefully time will prove me wrong but can’t see it. BlueAvenger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 15,250 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Did he slip at one of their goals or did he deliberately try and clear the ball with a kinda lying down header type movement? not really sure what he was doing Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayboleLoyal_atb 4,036 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 5 hours ago, psb07158 said: His style of play, absolutely He looks like he always wants to go to ground which is exactly why McGregor was garbage at the higher level for us because good players take advantage of defenders who go to ground quickly - the game has moved on He’s OBVIOUSLY a higher level overall than Darren McGregor was but based on what he showed today, it’s not looking good. Would agree with this. Reminds me a bit of that Rodrequiz we had under McLeish aswell Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa6995 3,774 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 45 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: Did he slip at one of their goals or did he deliberately try and clear the ball with a kinda lying down header type movement? not really sure what he was doing Think he was playing Best Man Fall, very poor start from him, he looks really ordinary so far. kanjo 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 3,121 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 59 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: Did he slip at one of their goals or did he deliberately try and clear the ball with a kinda lying down header type movement? not really sure what he was doing He slipped and had the reactions to try and head it while on the ground, but good players don't find themselves in these positions all that often and he's had a couple of shockers already. crmpicco 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBearButt 3,908 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 I don't think he looks very good however not sure anyone would with those full backs and dopey souttar daydreaming his way through matches. Seriously I have never seen us as weak both physically and mentally at the back. There was a complete collapse in the back line after their first goal even though it rightly got scratched off. I really don't know where we go from here and it is worrying. I don't think scratching about in the free agent market and adding more wages is the way to go or will sort anything. But at the same time I haven't seen anything from Clement that I can trust him to sort us and improve the players we have here currently. I would suggest bringing in a manager that knows what he is doing and can have us set up properly but we can't even afford to pay off Clement and his backroom staff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crmpicco 146 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Absolutely not what I expected from him today at all. He looked all over the place and very nervous at times. Losing has balance and trying to head a ball when on the ground was embarrassing. He is just in the door so needs time to settle but I am far from impressed so far Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertz85 1,317 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Let's face it. Anyone that signs for us is unwanted by anyone else and/or damaged goods Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 13,887 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Without a 6 in place we are going to look horrendous defensively, no structure in the midfield and two weak defensive full backs are going to leave the CB’s dragged all over the shop. Not saying he’s any good either though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Maestro 13,887 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Just now, Albertz85 said: Let's face it. Anyone that signs for us is unwanted by anyone else and/or damaged goods Propper wasn’t unwanted by Twente or damaged goods he was their captain and had a release clause. plymouthranger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertz85 1,317 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Just now, J-Maestro said: Propper wasn’t unwanted by Twente or damaged goods he was their captain and had a release clause. What I mean is nobody else wanted him, obv I could be wrong on that but usually any half decent dutch player psv/feyenoord/ajax snap up, if not a stronger league Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Hobbs 2,905 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 2 minutes ago, Albertz85 said: What I mean is nobody else wanted him, obv I could be wrong on that but usually any half decent dutch player psv/feyenoord/ajax snap up, if not a stronger league If any of these 3 teams have an interest he's already out of our reach. That's the reality of where we are. Twente finished third in the league. They are a decent team. J-Maestro and Albertz85 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,563 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 7 hours ago, Jamie0202 said: He was our POTY. Ffs mate the bar was set so low that season you couldnt slide a bit of paper under it lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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