Rangers_no1 32,606 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Bad times when a post is worse than some of @KingKirk posts KingKirk and RFC55 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,230 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 2 hours ago, maverick1200 said: These crop of heavyweights will never be considered in the GOAT discussions. Usyk maybe if he cleans out of the division. Absolutely correct. It's obviously a matter of opinion but for me peak Tyson (Mike not Fury) is the GOAT. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger 8,746 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 It was clear that Fury didn't take Ngannou seriously, showed up half prepared then realized after a couple of rounds he isn't terrible. Joshua, much as I find him quite unlikeable, is always professional in his approach. The Fury fight showed that he would need to take Ngannou seriously and he did. It showed the difference between a professional boxer and a professional fighter. The boxer will nearly always win a pro boxing match. Experience and years of training, mastering the art. Jamie0202 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooperson 826 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 1 hour ago, Badger said: It was clear that Fury didn't take Ngannou seriously, showed up half prepared then realized after a couple of rounds he isn't terrible. Joshua, much as I find him quite unlikeable, is always professional in his approach. The Fury fight showed that he would need to take Ngannou seriously and he did. It showed the difference between a professional boxer and a professional fighter. The boxer will nearly always win a pro boxing match. Experience and years of training, mastering the art. Fair play to Joshua btw, but he is a complete knob, when he spoke to Ngannou after the fight Ngannou said " it is what it is " then when AJ was asked questions after the fight about the finish he said, " it is what is " in a weird accent, fkn thunder cunt of a guy, Hope however he fights next knocks the racist arsehole clean the fuck out AdzKyle 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick1200 2,832 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 4 hours ago, The Beast said: Absolutely correct. It's obviously a matter of opinion but for me peak Tyson (Mike not Fury) is the GOAT. Yeah, Lewis would have murdered the current crop of HWs. Personally I think Iron Mike is a bit overrated but that's an argument for another day . I always find it hard pick a greatest because of recency bias. We Will Follow Rangers 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Will Follow Rangers 12,946 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Lennox Lewis was the last great heavy weight the reason we have Fury and Usyk is there are no great fighters in that division. Lewis just about makes the top ten all time, Ali, Joe Louis and Joe Frazier would be among it but it's down to personal opinions after that. For me it's Ali, because no other fighter had to beat as many greats to become champion. Talk of fury as GOAT is embarrassing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,859 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 3 hours ago, maverick1200 said: Iron Mike is a bit overrated Wild Tiger Shaw, Jamie0202, Moody Blue Legend and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Will Follow Rangers 12,946 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 5 minutes ago, born a blue nose said: Wild If people view him as the GOAT then he's overrated, probably the most ferocious fighter ever right enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick1200 2,832 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 1 hour ago, born a blue nose said: Wild In the context of the greatest of all time, I think he is. He had the potential to be, but for a variety of reasons didn't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrupsleftfoot 11,023 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Tyson looks tiny as an older man, makes it all the more remarkable he achieved what he did as a heavyweight in the first place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookWorm 4,157 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 1 hour ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said: Tyson looks tiny as an older man, makes it all the more remarkable he achieved what he did as a heavyweight in the first place. Yeah, and now at 57 years old going toe to toe with a 27 year old for a few quid. Can't help thinking this latest show is dangerous for Tyson at his age.Even with Jake Paul's limited skills, he still occasionally knocks people out for a living. Tiger Shaw 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie0202 12,367 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 23 hours ago, gmcf said: I like AJ as a boxer until he starts talking . Kinda same until I watched the recent Loius Theroux time spent with him. After Usyk 2 I thought he was completely gone but not now. Said the same on this thread to mild criticism at his last fight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger 8,746 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 A 5-6-7 years back boxing forum I was a member of - did a hypothetical 20 person league of the great heavyweights, where they all fought each other once. They had accumulated a panel of a handful of knowledgeable members, writers, trainers, etc - and assessed each fight on the h2h merits. Obviously it's all an opinion, but I did find it quite a fascinating read, and going hypothetical head to head - the league table didn't end up in the order you'd expect. Anyway, Lennox Lewis won the league on account of skill and size he was a head to head nightmare for most of the old greats. Vitali Klitschko also did really well, finishing something like 5th or 6th - again a h2h nightmare for many of the old greats. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookWorm 4,157 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 15 hours ago, Badger said: A 5-6-7 years back boxing forum I was a member of - did a hypothetical 20 person league of the great heavyweights, where they all fought each other once. They had accumulated a panel of a handful of knowledgeable members, writers, trainers, etc - and assessed each fight on the h2h merits. Obviously it's all an opinion, but I did find it quite a fascinating read, and going hypothetical head to head - the league table didn't end up in the order you'd expect. Anyway, Lennox Lewis won the league on account of skill and size he was a head to head nightmare for most of the old greats. Vitali Klitschko also did really well, finishing something like 5th or 6th - again a h2h nightmare for many of the old greats. Where did Ali place in it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger 8,746 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 8 hours ago, BookWorm said: Where did Ali place in it? He was either 3rd or 4th. Tyson was 2nd. Holmes was right up there. Holyfield didn't do as well as I'd rate him. Wish I could find it again, although that particular forum doesn't exist any more. It was only over the past 50 years. It may have been '65-'15 As said it's all an opinion, but I found it fascinating as it ranked the fighter putting them head to head and seeing how they came out in a league. It gave interesting results. BookWorm 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookWorm 4,157 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 6 hours ago, Badger said: He was either 3rd or 4th. Tyson was 2nd. Holmes was right up there. Holyfield didn't do as well as I'd rate him. Wish I could find it again, although that particular forum doesn't exist any more. It was only over the past 50 years. It may have been '65-'15 As said it's all an opinion, but I found it fascinating as it ranked the fighter putting them head to head and seeing how they came out in a league. It gave interesting results. Aye that all sounds pretty fair, although I can't help but always have Ali as the GOAT. Maybe more nostalgia than logic at work there though, even though Lennox Lewis at his prime was an absolute stand out and understandable all time great. Fred H Crawford 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siam69 27,024 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Josh Taylor's long-awaited rematch with Jack Catterall in Leeds has been postponed for a second time. The fight was initially cancelled last year after Taylor sustained a foot injury in training, and the Scot has again suffered a setback in training. This time the nature of his injury has not been revealed but a new date has already been confirmed. The non-title bout has been pushed back from 27 April to 25 May and will still take place at First Direct Arena. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCR1 1,505 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Jake Paul v Mike Tyson in what will no doubt be an exhibition sparring session where they both make tens of millions. This shite needs to stop, it’s had its moment. bluenoz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,627 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 2 hours ago, JimmyCR1 said: Jake Paul v Mike Tyson in what will no doubt be an exhibition sparring session where they both make tens of millions. This shite needs to stop, it’s had its moment. Seen a few videos of Tyson in training still looks sharp and dangerous. I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t put that YouTube fanny to sleep even at 57 🤣 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siam69 27,024 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 3 decent fights so far. Think that guy Joyce is fighting is the guy that but Price in the chest lol, i remember watching it, nutter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siam69 27,024 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Joyce is done, he'll never be the same after the 2 beatings he's took. He'll try and make as much money as he can, which is fair enough, but he's done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,696 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Smith v zepeda tonight decent card looking forward to it. Siam69 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,696 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Decent fight this both English level at best tho Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,696 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Another decent fight maybe am the only one but I don't really rate Campbell hatton he's way to easy to hit pitched in above his level. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siam69 27,024 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 11 minutes ago, KingKirk said: Another decent fight maybe am the only one but I don't really rate Campbell hatton he's way to easy to hit pitched in above his level. Me neither. I remember one of his first, or maybe even his first fight, he was clearly beat, but got the decision due to the name. Flint landing better shots here. 2 good fights so far. KingKirk 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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