mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Just listening to SSB (I know, I know!) with Doncaster being on sounding very sleazy.Heavy hints coming out that Hearts if they fail to gain a CVA and go NewCo will retain their place in the top division.When pressed by a caller, one of the other pundits stated that if Hearts went NewCo they would have to start at the bottom like Rangers. The pundit then asked Doncaster 'That has to happen right?' to which he replied 'Oh well I dont know about that now!'. He than went on to state that the transfer of their league share would be at the total discretion of the board.Sounds like if Hearts NewCo mid season, and somehow find a stadium to play in, they will be allowed to keep their place. Would be an absolute scandal if true after what we were put through.I still think they are close enough in discussions to get a CVA, but listening to this guy made my blood boil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam2102 579 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Disgraceful, corrupt and completely unsurprising. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 *ANGRY NOISES* Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublusince1982 768 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Don't think I could stand by and let that happen while behaving in the way a rangers fan should. The straw that broke the camels back Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 How can you chuck a team out the league mid season?If they fuck up before the season starts I see the point but what do you do, whip a team up from the Championship and start on zero points? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share Posted July 30, 2013 How can you chuck a team out the league mid season?If they fuck up before the season starts I see the point but what do you do, whip a team up from the Championship and start on zero points?Void their results and play with 11 teams.They can apply to join the bottom tier the next year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskbankloyal 19,446 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 What he said is correct. It has nothing to do with Doncaster, it is up to the clubs to vote on the matter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 They are corrupt cunts and the board at Rangers should be pointing that out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandblue 366 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Void their results and play with 11 teams.They can apply to join the bottom tier the next year. This Sporting Integrity after all Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StornowayBlue 630 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 This is exactly why I was against reconstruction. It was the failsafe for any other SPL club that suffered a newco event to retain their share in the league. We had our old SPL share removed for being a newco and were left to apply to the SFL. Now all 42 clubs have a share in the SPFL, if one club were to newco, its unlikely they will remove their share. They've fudged the whole thing up to protect the SPL clubs from going the same route as we were forced down. IMO that is ALL reconstruction was about. There is a time and a place so Ill say Bastards! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeney 241 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Wouldn't happen. Even in this blatantly biased country that is a step they couldn't defend. Lets not get worked up about it, lets just sit back, enjoy the show, and applaud/riot as appropriate at the end of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Void their results and play with 11 teams.They can apply to join the bottom tier the next year.If only, the chances of them doing that and becoming even more of a laughing stock are slim to none IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share Posted July 30, 2013 What he said is correct. It has nothing to do with Doncaster, it is up to the clubs to vote on the matter.Is it actually up to the clubs to vote? I thought he said it was up to the 'board' to vote. Is that not a very small, top heavy selection of the clubs?Anyway, after last summer, they should have put strict rules in place. Instead they have left it 'to the total discretion of the board'. Which really means no rules and they can make whatever they want happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allgers 735 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 That would have to end up in a court of law, if the SPL had ended and the SPFL had been a newco we wouldn't have a leg to stand on, but the SFL was swallowed up by the SPL and so effectivly the SPL still exists albeit under a different name. Discrimination pure and simple.Post #10 StornowayBlue - never thought of that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam2102 579 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Void their results and play with 11 teams.They can apply to join the bottom tier the next year.This. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share Posted July 30, 2013 That would have to end up in a court of law, if the SPL had ended and the SPFL had been a newco we wouldn't have a leg to stand on, but the SFL was swallowed up by the SPL and so effectivly the SPL still exists albeit under a different name. Discrimination pure and simple.Nah, not a hope and hell. As fucking shady as it is, its not illegal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
16BlueSherbert90 19,240 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 They would need to deduct points for sure....then come the end of season demote them to 3rd division or bottom of whatever the reconstructed leagues are. But you know how it will pan out in reality..... in the name of "Sporting Integrity" of course.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 A thread from mitre that's complete supposition and conjecture with a negative slant that will no doubt get some into a dizzy fit. Surprising... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,764 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 How can you get a share in a company you are nothing to do with if you newco? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Wonder how long before BP9 comes in and says he hopes Hearts stay in the top flight ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 You do realise you are getting angry about something that hasn't happened yet....HMRC proved today they only don't do a deal when it involves rangers so although I appreciate they aren't the main creditor at hearts I have absolutely no doubt they will get a CVA passed! The thing that annoys me is that we get accused of running away from debt etc yet a CVA is exactly that! There is no difference other than allowing the same cooperate company to continue as is on paper, despite completely new ownership changing the cooperate governance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,764 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Wonder how long before BP9 comes in and says he hopes Hearts stay in the top flight ... Frank just on clyde1 saying Charlie got us for 5.5 million cause maybe he didn't own MP or Ibrox sad sad fucker Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StornowayBlue 630 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 How can you get a share in a company you are nothing to do with if you newco?Sporting Integrity Bud! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 You do realise you are getting angry about something that hasn't happened yet....HMRC proved today they only don't do a deal when it involves rangers so although I appreciate they aren't the main creditor at hearts I have absolutely no doubt they will get a CVA passed!The thing that annoys me is that we get accused of running away from debt etc yet a CVA is exactly that! There is no difference other than allowing the same cooperate company to continue as is on paper, despite completely new ownership changing the cooperate governance.Yeah isn't that what the internet's for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share Posted July 30, 2013 A thread from mitre that's complete supposition and conjecture with a negative slant that will no doubt get some into a dizzy fit.Surprising... Haha, was only so long we could agree on things for!Seriously though, was anyone else listening to it at the time? Its certainly the vibe I was getting from Doncaster, but only listened to about 15 mins on the way home from work. Might have been other things said that counter this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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