theiconicman 2,994 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 This will always be the case with McCoist. If Rangers were forced to operate on an equal financial footing as Hibs and Hearts would we even be able to compete with them? Under McCoist we'll need to buy our way back. Allowing him to do it just shows we haven't learned a fucking thing from the collapse we suffered only recently.What a fucking crazy suggestion? The teams with the most money, win the most trophies. Why the fuck you'd want us to compete with Hearts and Hibs on wages is beyond me.Rangers, Celtic, Man U, Chelsea, Man City, Barcelona, Real Madrid etc etc all bought success. It's how fucking football works. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,984 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Here is Ally's quote; "It would be brilliant if there was some kind of funding solution before the end of the year, but we're not expecting it or relying on it. The club and the football side of the club definitely needs investment at some point in the future. We don't have a timescale for it, but it certainly will have to happen for the benefit of the team."What's so fucking wrong with that quote?Here is Ally's quote; "It would be brilliant if there was some kind of funding solution before the end of the year, but we're not expecting it or relying on it. The club and the football side of the club definitely needs investment at some point in the future. We don't have a timescale for it, but it certainly will have to happen for the benefit of the team."What's so fucking wrong with that quote???Underlined section: So Ally confirms we have no requirement for a funding solution by the end of the year? Is this why spending on transfers into an already inflated squad isn't an issue. Money is no problem.The ET expanded on his quote providing:McCoist continued: "One or two signings in January can make all the difference. I can go back to us signing Graham Roberts from Spurs in 1987. "He helped us kick on. Graeme Souness was always keen on January signings. "We attempt to keep ahead of the game. We don't have a scouting system, but we still watch players and look at those who are out of contract.Why????"Hearts have good depth to their squad and they are doing well. It looks as though it's going to go all the way."Hibs have been unfairly written off before now, which we always thought was crazy. But after their performance at Livingston at the weekend they are still very much in it."So he is clearly talking about this transfer window, with investment pre Jan 2015 not being relied upon, to compete with Herts "good depth" and Hibs being "very much in it".If you can't see how out of depth, and out of touch he is then you are deluded and have spent too much time with BP9. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WadeWilson 4,670 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Oh lookie here.We're just off the back of a good performance, showing real signs of improvement on the park and a potential investor has been meeting with the board....but the OP doesn't want people with Rangers in their hearts at the club because they're not his men. Plant seeds and suggestions and let's nature take its course...people don't really think beyond the headline, the suggestion that's put to them or a preconception of what it is they want to read...and bingo, you've destabilised the potential good news and good feeling so you can promote your own agenda. Talk about "malcontents" trying to manipulate the agenda for their own personal gain? You do wonder. I think simplythebest sums up the OP in a rather perfect nutshell. Making a mug of the fans again Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Underlined section: So Ally confirms we have no requirement for a funding solution by the end of the year? Is this why spending on transfers into an already inflated squad isn't an issue. Money is no problem.The ET expanded on his quote providing:McCoist continued: "One or two signings in January can make all the difference. I can go back to us signing Graham Roberts from Spurs in 1987. "He helped us kick on. Graeme Souness was always keen on January signings. "We attempt to keep ahead of the game. We don't have a scouting system, but we still watch players and look at those who are out of contract.Why????"Hearts have good depth to their squad and they are doing well. It looks as though it's going to go all the way."Hibs have been unfairly written off before now, which we always thought was crazy. But after their performance at Livingston at the weekend they are still very much in it."So he is clearly talking about this transfer window, with investment pre Jan 2015 not being relied upon, to compete with Herts "good depth" and Hibs being "very much in it".If you can't see how out of depth, and out of touch he is then you are deluded and have spent too much time with BP9.He is saying the club and the squad will need investment at some point. Yes, no? Of course we will.He also said he as the manager is not "expecting it, or relying on it". Good, bad? He's focusing on the squad we have.Then he said that "1 or 2 signings in January can make the difference." Yes, no? Plenty of seasons clubs dealings in January can make or break their season.He is not saying he needs players in January, but he will make sure we keep our eyes out for players, including those out of contract. This is the attitude of every manager to look out for players who can improve the team.Ally has said nothing in this article that is out of order. It's simply because it was Ally that said it that people are taking offence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I think simplythebest sums up the OP in a rather perfect nutshell. Oh dear Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Just a wee point here. Stevie the IT guy is actually Steve Harvey the clubs video analyst. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingtom80 166 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 and a new manager. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Chill out guys, seriously, the story here is about our embarrassing lack of a scouting team. Getting dragged into arguing about whether or not the manager needs players he hasn't asked for is so irrelevant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,739 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 If we can get rid of 6/7 players and bring in the same number but of a higher quality ill be happy.Players that should be moved on.MohsniBlackPeraltaFoster shiels Hutton Faure Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,984 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Who is going to buy our players, bar the ones we want to keep?Bar those in denial, we understand McCoist here is letting it be know he wants ADDITIONAL players in January.Can assume too then that the youths on loan aren't going to get a look in, they're not the ones Stevie has been watching for Ally.McCoist hopes the financial injection is in place to allow these signings to happen.Someone really has to tell him the luxuries of the past are a thing of the past. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,961 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Ally with any kind of money is fucking terrifying Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Who is going to buy our players, bar the ones we want to keep?Sportingintegritymyarse calls Rangers FC worthless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacBoyd 5,531 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Why when writing a thread do people nearly always call him Alistair. It's not an insult it's his name... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 What a fucking crazy suggestion? The teams with the most money, win the most trophies. Why the fuck you'd want us to compete with Hearts and Hibs on wages is beyond me.Rangers, Celtic, Man U, Chelsea, Man City, Barcelona, Real Madrid etc etc all bought success. It's how fucking football works.I'm not suggesting Rangers operate on the same budgets as a Hibs or Hearts. If Ally had to compete with these clubs on a level playing field financially he'd fail miserably. Despite the massive amounts of money we're spending on the manager, coaches, and players, we're not that far in front of Hibs and Hearts in footballing terms, if at all. A better manager could be doing much more with what we have or the funds we did have. Masking Ally's ineptitude as a manager is costing millions and will keep on costing us until we finally grow some balls and get rid of him.If we get funds from a takeover I'd rather we used that money to get rid of Ally, Durrant, and McDowall. Getting rid of the three amigos has to be one of the clubs top priorities.Some in this thread (coopsleftboot) are trying to argue that Ally should stay purely because he's a Rangers legend. We shouldn't ignore the fact that Ally can't do his fucking job properly just because he was a good player for us 20-30 years ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,636 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Imagine if this thread title was:"Alistair needs no more players"go on just imagine! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawsburst 1,381 Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 The chaps will be having their nap in luxurious surroundings at the moment..........before facing the might of ES not Barca FC. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,540 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 The taigs and trolls on here love having McCoist in charge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Why was the scouting system dismantled, ....YOu would have to ask Green that. In hindsight it was a terrible idea.I am also seriously dissapointed in Wallace, he should have had a scouting system in place, or at least hired the DoF guy he was talking about hiring. We do need new players, and I totally understand a manager wanting to ALWAYS improve his squad, he wouldn't be doing his job otherwise.but, IMO, we need to use any money we have right now to get a working scouting system ( or a DoF with access to a network) in place before we buy any more players. The squad we have is good enough to gain promotion ( still think we will go on to win the league) but there is no way that current crop of players can make an assault on the top flight, we will almost certainly need a good few new players for that.Get the scout in, give him a few months to find some bargins for us, hopefully sell them on at a profit, then the scouting system pays for itself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,984 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Sportingintegritymyarse calls Rangers FC worthless.Albear85 in bullshit and lie shocker.But then you likely reckon ally is doing such a great job we'll be inundated with cash offers for the likes of the players mentioned in #84. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Every manager should always be looking to improve their squad, but even if this investment comes we aren't in a position to so to the best of our ability at the moment.As McCoist says, our current scouting setup is "Stevie the IT Guy" so if this deal goes through before January and we sign a load of players in that window how can we trust that they have been effectively scouted and identified when we have such a substandard scouting setup?If it's going to be another window of relying on players the staff know and agent recommendations then I say just go with what we have (which to most managers would be more than enough to do the job asked of McCoist at the start of the season) and focus on getting a scouting team in place who can spend the next 8-10 months doing proper work and making better assessments of players of the level we will need when we are back in the SPL.No more average run of the mill SPL players like the Murray Davidson's of the world. The quality simply needs to be higher to prepare us for what is to come. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Albear85 in bullshit and lie shocker.But then you likely reckon ally is doing such a great job we'll be inundated with cash offers for the likes of the players mentioned in #84.Were we not taking what people say and twisting it to make erroneous conclusions? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Here is Ally's quote; "It would be brilliant if there was some kind of funding solution before the end of the year, but we're not expecting it or relying on it. The club and the football side of the club definitely needs investment at some point in the future. We don't have a timescale for it, but it certainly will have to happen for the benefit of the team."What's so fucking wrong with that quote?Not a damn thing, and I personally feel if anyone has a problem with that quote they then are working to more of an anti Ally agenda than they might realise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Not a damn thing, and I personally feel if anyone has a problem with that quote they then are working to more of an anti Ally agenda than they might realise.Oh gogzy. They realise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Who is going to buy our players, bar the ones we want to keep?Bar those in denial, we understand McCoist here is letting it be know he wants ADDITIONAL players in January.Can assume too then that the youths on loan aren't going to get a look in, they're not the ones Stevie has been watching for Ally.McCoist hopes the financial injection is in place to allow these signings to happen.Someone really has to tell him the luxuries of the past are a thing of the past.to be honest, not many of our players will be being looked at as potential targets from other teams However, most of these players have contracts that run out at the end of the season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Just a wee point here. Stevie the IT guy is actually Steve Harvey the clubs video analyst.Did he like Pacific Rim? I thought it was shite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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