Prso's headband 35,510 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 It's a thread to respect no a debate on whether suicide is selfish or not ffs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle 53,615 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 So young, I'm very sorry to hear this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuoso 27,180 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Quote SCOTTISH international footballer Kris Boyd has said his family is in “deep shock” after revealing his younger brother has taken his own life. Kris, who has plays for Scottish Premier League team Kilmarnock, has spoken of the tragedy in the hope it will encourage others to talk about their emotions. His brother, Scott, 27, was found dead yesterday by mother, Maureen. The 33-year-old said: “Our family is in deep shock. “He obviously had issues in his life which none of us were aware of. “I hope this raises awareness for those who are struggling with things in their life to ask for help if they need it. “Unfortunately Scott wasn’t able to do that and the consequences are tragic. It’s just so hard to believe he’s gone.” Kris said he hopes his brother’s tragic death will encourage others to share problems and emotions, believing a chat with loved ones could have saved Scott’s life. Paying tribute to his younger brother, the record-breaking striker said: “Scott was a loving son, brother, husband and father. “He was the kind of person who would do anything for anybody. He doted on his son and loved his wife deeply. “For him to take his own life has left his friends and family utterly devastated. We hope people respect our privacy at this extremely difficult time while we try and come to terms with what’s happened.” Scott’s pregnant wife, Kelly, and their son, are in the care of relatives, including football star Kris. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Absolutely tragic. RIP Scott Boyd Thoughts and prayers with Kris, very sad time for him and his family Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 1 hour ago, The Godfather said: Everyone has different experiences with it, it's a raw subject with plenty of emotion involved. No one is right or wrong. The best post on the subject. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodRunsBlue 1,303 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Tragic. R.I.P. Scott. 27 is so young. Thoughts are with Kris's family at this sad time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinanderson 12 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 RIP Scott Boyd...thoughts with Kris and the family, unbelievably difficult time... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry handsome 629 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 2 hours ago, GOAT said: My thoughts are with his family who he has now left to pick up the pieces from his shite. Suicide must be the most selfish thing anyone can do in life and death. He was going to be a father ffs, poor wean. You're entitled to your opinion however poor it is. I have been touched by suicide where a mother left her two kids, she was a tortured soul and as much as she was given support her illness could not be cured. Spare a thought for the family and friends of those who cannot go on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I find it ridiculous when people say suicide is the easy way out. Imagine being at a point in your life where you feel so low that the only option you feel you have is to kill yourself. I've never experience it and hope I never do but I very much doubt there's anything at all about that decision which would be easy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 1 hour ago, ianferguson said: selfish ˈsɛlfɪʃ/ adjective egocentric, egotistic, egotistical,egomaniacal, self-centred, self-regarding, self-absorbed, self-obsessed, self-seeking, self-serving,wrapped up in oneself, inward-looking,introverted, self-loving; Definitely not the feelings of a suicidal person, self loathing would be more appropriate. I don't think any of them feel that they are being selfish. I think in a lot of cases they probably (wrongly) feel they are doing the world a favour. I know that when I dealt with depression, I believed I was nothing more than a drain on my friends and family, and the world would be better without me. I am just glad those feelings didn't take over my life. I don't think they feel selfish, but suicide is a selfish act. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 59 minutes ago, Prso's headband said: It's a thread to respect no a debate on whether suicide is selfish or not ffs. THat's a very fair point, apologies. I feel for his family, I have family members who have been through this and they have never really recovered from it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,610 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I honestly think we should lose all the posts on whether suicides right or wrong plus all the part time shrinks we seem to now have on the forum, and leave this as a Rip thread. We could always do a separate thread on the Topic suicide. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,510 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 4 minutes ago, gogzy said: THat's a very fair point, apologies. I feel for his family, I have family members who have been through this and they have never really recovered from it. Yeah it's a shame, just reading that article the family must be gutted that they didn't even know of the problems, he tried to contein them himself. Threads like this always go off on tangent but every suicide experience is different. It isn't up too people online to judge the guy IMO Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Just now, Prso's headband said: Yeah it's a shame, just reading that article the family must be gutted that they didn't even know of the problems, he tried to contein them himself. Threads like this always go off on tangent but every suicide experience is different. It isn't up too people online to judge the guy IMO While I agree with the sentiment, isn't that what the internet does, judges? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gj923 1,457 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 RIP and thoughts to the Boyd family and all families that have experienced this. Fair play to Kris for highlighting this in the hope it helps others in what must be a really difficult time for him and his family. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WadeWilson 4,670 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Quite simply an absolute tragedy for the poor young soul's family. I agree with the guy who said it isn't the time for a debate on mental health and suicide and certainly not the time to be posting cold and heartless jibes in such raw circumstances. It's a time for respect and condolences, and there are lots of heartfelt and poignant messages on this thread so hopefully some of the warm-wishes reach the Boyd extended family at this gut-wrenching time. Also, I feel for the rest of the guys on here who have posted about having similar experiences. Truly shocking for anyone to have to go through such tragedy whether it be family or friends. Thanks for sharing with the rest of us, you never know who you are possibly saving by getting an issue like this out there in the open rather than just dismissing it as some kind of outlandish taboo. Especially among our particular demographic where people like to pretend they are infallible and everything is always just 'awright.' Genuine respect and condolences to anyone who has ever suffered in this manner. Respect and empathy to the survivors and those brave enough to pick up the pieces and condolences and sympathy to any of those who were not so fortunate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTav 970 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Thoughts go to the family, horrible thing to go through. Sometimes we miss the signs from the people that are closest to us. RIP Scott Boyd Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornabluenose 0 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Tragic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 2,992 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Hope he finds peace in death he couldn't find in life. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WadeWilson 4,670 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, OhW said: Sad news but I don't it warrants being front page news; I didn't even know Kris Boyd had a brother. It sinks as low as the Peralta front page we had the other day in my opinion. A valid point... And perhaps a debate for a later date? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry739 267 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 57 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: The best post on the subject. We don't know what makes a person decide to take their own life because we've luckily never been to the place in their head which makes them do it. I've known several (3) guys who have done it and it always came as a shock to those who knew and worked with them! RIP Scott and my thoughts are with you and your family. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Absolutely tragic I can see where the conclusion comes from about it being a selfish act etc but unless I ever got to that place (hopefully never do) then it's really difficult to pass judgement Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Just now, terry739 said: We don't know what makes a person decide to take their own life because we've luckily never been to the place in their head which makes them do it. I've known several (3) guys who have done it and it always came as a shock to those who knew and worked them! RIP Scott and my thoughts are with you and your family. I've been at the bottom of that particular hole mate, all rational thought goes out the window. I've also lost a couple of school friends one at school age and one later on in life. As Godfather said there is no right or wrong. Some find help and climb out of the hole, some no matter how much help never get out, some can't seem to find the help that's out there. The one constant is the family are left to suffer with the feelings of guilt, everybody thinks they should've seen it coming or could've did something more to help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misteral 2,932 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Too young. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry739 267 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 8 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: I've been at the bottom of that particular hole mate, all rational thought goes out the window. I've also lost a couple of school friends one at school age and one later on in life. As Godfather said there is no right or wrong. Some find help and climb out of the hole, some no matter how much help never get out, some can't seem to find the help that's out there. The one constant is the family are left to suffer with the feelings of guilt, everybody thinks they should've seen it coming or could've did something more to help. Good Explanation, CB, and very well put! I know what you mean about feeling guilt! Glad you came through it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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