NeoGeo7 11,309 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 This summer is going to be massive for our club since there is as much importance of selling players (or mutually termination of contracts) as there is for the players we bring in. The gaffer has already spoken about the qualities he is looking for.... Quote “I have been around footballers for a long time – I’ll work out very quickly who fancies this challenge and who wants to come with me. "And if there are people who don’t fancy it and want to be somewhere else, good luck to them. "I want players who want to come with me on this journey, who want to take the challenge to everyone that’s in this league and are willing to give everything they’ve got. I’ll work out these people very quickly.” When pulling together this image and going through the squad it makes you realise just how much work will need to be done in order to clear out the squad this summer to allow the manager to get in the right people. I have no idea how Allen (and agents) are going to convince teams to take on some the majority of the players. Some might be easier to sell than others such as Morelos, Windass and Wallace and I think its something we need to look at doing as these three players could generate a fairly sizeable addition to the transfer kitty. Other like Pena, Herrera, Alves, Halliday, Hodson, MOH, Forrester and Dodoo might be more difficult to move on especially if they are on decent money here they may just opt to run their contract down (or wait for that compensation payout from the club). Mark Allen had better be a good salesman as well as having an eye for talent if we want to give the manager a clean slate to work with. SeparateEntityMyArse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulboy 2,526 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Clubs in English championship and league 1 will be paying wages the same as we're paying except for likes of Alves and Pena. Dodoo, Hodson. Moh, Forrester etc shouldn't be too hard to get rid of the likes of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cedrick 8,048 Posted May 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 6, 2018 I don’t think he’s brought in a good player yet , every January signings been shite danger ranger, plumbGER, BlueAvenger and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmcf 35,442 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 I think this as one of the benefits of a DoF . SG being quite new to this doesn't need the distraction of looking for clubs to take on a fair amount of players not good enough here , or try to negotiate wages or fees for new ones . It lets him concentrate on one thing and one thing only - winning football matches . But yeah , MA is going to earn his money if he can move on some of the dross here . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefootwillie 1,519 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 He will have a hard job getting rid of that lot . He is going to be very busy and if he can get rid of 80%if that lot he will have done well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 55,426 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Said on another thread that his toughest job this summer will be moving on the shite who earn wages but contribute fuck all. And we do need them moved on for so many reasons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Wasn't so long ago that many were asking what does this guy do? Proving to be a top guy and a huge asset to RFC. Long may he continue. gmcf, Boaby Bear, Drunk and disorderly. and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 1 hour ago, soulboy said: Dodoo, Hodson. Moh, Forrester etc shouldn't be too hard to get rid of the likes of them. We tried to get rid of them last summer and loans is the best we could do. It'll be even harder this summer given how badly they done when out on loan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wire 242 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Thought we did a decent job at moving people on last year although to be fair it's an even bigger job this year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulboy 2,526 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, TMB said: We tried to get rid of them last summer and loans is the best we could do. It'll be even harder this summer given how badly they done when out on loan. One less year on contracts equals less transfer fee. Could be a reason why cardoso hasn't made bench even when we had no cover at CB and that's because someone wants to buy him and we don't want him injured. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoGeo7 11,309 Posted May 6, 2018 Author Share Posted May 6, 2018 Contract wise we have: 2018 Miller 2019 Alves Wallace Hodson Kelly Forrester 2020 Dorrans Candeias Halliday Jack Foderingham Herrera Pena Holt O'Halloran Alnwick Cardoso Rossiter Dodoo 2021 Tavernier John Windass Morelos Docherty McCrorie From the list above you can see the mistakes we have made in that 2020 is the year that we really needed to be this summer and the thought of holding onto MOH, Herrera, Pena, Cardoso, Dodoo, Halliday for another two seasons Out of those in 2021 apart from McCrorie and Docherty (as I'd like to see what he can do with a proper coaching team) I'd be quite happy to let them go too. Howsitgoing and CoopsLaud 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoGeo7 11,309 Posted May 6, 2018 Author Share Posted May 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, soulboy said: One less year on contracts equals less transfer fee. Could be a reason why cardoso hasn't made bench even when we had no cover at CB and that's because someone wants to buy him and we don't want him injured. I think we'd struggle to give some players away tbh The wages we are giving these players will be above the market average for someone of their ability that means they are likely to have to take a pay cut. Mind you if we managed to get rid of Kiernan for a fee then anything is possible. The No.9 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
five stars 1,767 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Cedrick said: I don’t think he’s brought in a good player yet , every January signings been shite Declan John's been a good signing, particularly considering the low cost involved. Murphy's been decent although I wouldn't pay £1.8 million for him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 15 minutes ago, five stars said: Declan John's been a good signing, particularly considering the low cost involved. Murphy's been decent although I wouldn't pay £1.8 million for him. Murphy not for me mate Bearsden bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 25 minutes ago, soulboy said: One less year on contracts equals less transfer fee. We couldn't give most of those players away for free. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger ranger 922 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 No way he will have a say in who comes in, that's the managers call, especially after Gerrard's comments about no time for development we need to start winning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 55,426 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 1 minute ago, danger ranger said: No way he will have a say in who comes in, that's the managers call, especially after Gerrard's comments about no time for development we need to start winning. Contradicts what both Allen and Gerrard have said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger ranger 922 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 31 minutes ago, Cedrick said: Murphy not for me mate 1 in 7 player's aren't good enough, although he is not the worst. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger ranger 922 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: Contradicts what both Allen and Gerrard have said. What he says and what he thinks should be two different things if he wants to survive and I don't see Gerrard as being a pushover especially coming from Liverpool fc and being a Scouser, time will tell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 When you see all their mugshots like this You just wonder .How the hell could we end up with so much utter dross of a football squad after 2/3 years Complete collage of some of the worst players ever to wear our famous shirts Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue 10,044 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 The money we got for Waghorn and Garner last summer, as well as shipping shite like Kiernan shows we'll get rid of them Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 It's a lesson with Alfredo and Tav No extended contracts should be getting handed out when no trophies and certainly no big matches are being won We better get these 2 to fuck out of our club Get money by all means but if these 2 are there next season .I will be gutted Orange Persson and Blue Avenger 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMckee 3,483 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Can't believe we gave loads of these exstensions laudrupno1 and eejay the dj 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,569 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 3 hours ago, NeoGeo7 said: This summer is going to be massive for our club since there is as much importance of selling players (or mutually termination of contracts) as there is for the players we bring in. The gaffer has already spoken about the qualities he is looking for.... When pulling together this image and going through the squad it makes you realise just how much work will need to be done in order to clear out the squad this summer to allow the manager to get in the right people. I have no idea how Allen (and agents) are going to convince teams to take on some the majority of the players. Some might be easier to sell than others such as Morelos, Windass and Wallace and I think its something we need to look at doing as these three players could generate a fairly sizeable addition to the transfer kitty. Other like Pena, Herrera, Alves, Halliday, Hodson, MOH, Forrester and Dodoo might be more difficult to move on especially if they are on decent money here they may just opt to run their contract down (or wait for that compensation payout from the club). Mark Allen had better be a good salesman as well as having an eye for talent if we want to give the manager a clean slate to work with. Wallace will go for free. The other two are fucking donkeys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
laudrupno1 3,932 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 17 minutes ago, MrMckee said: Can't believe we gave loads of these exstensions Never understood why we did that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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