Peña unable to play?

[Perth_Campsie_Ger 18,065]

I know there is a thread already on him and my question got burried amongst all the other stuff in the thread.

Would I be right in thinking he can't play for anyone until the summer as he has already player for 2 clubs this season?

Going to be pretty shit if we can't play him or sell/loan him while he picks up silly money

[The Godfather 72,658]

Wouldn't want to play the fat junkie bastard.

[Junior Soprano 22,428]

Is it not a calendar year?

[Perth_Campsie_Ger 18,065]

Just now, The Godfather said:

Wouldn't want to play the fat junkie bastard.

My point is we might be able to nothing with him other than pay him off

[Perth_Campsie_Ger 18,065]

1 minute ago, Junior Soprano said:

Is it not a calendar year?

Not sure which is why I asked outwith the current pena thread in the hope that someone who knows the rules ca. Answer

[pcbear 10,924]

I thought that about him and Herrera on first viewing.

[The Godfather 72,658]

1 minute ago, Perth_Campsie_Ger said:

My point is we might be able to nothing with him other than pay him off

Was always going to come to that though. When you send him out to clubs and does absolutely nothing then no one is going to pay actual money for him when his attitude, fitness is shite.

It's just another pay off to add to the list of many.

[Dan Deacon 55,705]

Op spends a week in Mexico and thinks he's fluent 

 

[Negri's lovechild 14,460]

Pretty sure that's the case with transfers but not sure if that is the case with loaning players out, as he has always been out player during that time so wouldn't need to re register him. Probably a way to get a dispensation of sorts from the sfa if we were looking at playing him. 

Looks like another expensive payoff unfortunately. 

[laudrupno1 3,932]

Hopefully goes on holiday with the McCann's.

[loyalfollower 1,543]

It’s calendar year but in any case he’s not the answer.  Couldn’t get fit under a manager that signed him and will no doubt be worse under a manager that won’t take his shite

[chris182 6,366]

There's got to potentially be ways round it if we're his parent club and his loan deal had been terminated early 

[gj923 1,457]

Just now, loyalfollower said:

It’s calendar year but in any case he’s not the answer.  Couldn’t get fit under a manager that signed him and will no doubt be worse under a manager that won’t take his shite

That is the official rule on it from FIFA but not sure how it translates here

Players may be registered with a maximum of three clubs during one season. During this period, the player is only eligible to play offi cial matches for two clubs. As an exception to this rule, a player moving between two clubs belonging to associations with overlapping seasons (i.e. start of the season in summer/autumn as opposed to winter/spring) may be eligible to play in offi cial matches for a third club during the relevant season, provided he has fully complied with his contractual obligations towards his previous clubs. Equally, the provisions relating to the registration periods (article 6) as well as to the minimum length of a contract (article 18 paragraph 2) must be respected.

[Gman36 3,456]

[mclovin9091 1,405]

Aye but if we bring him back and he starts acting up or not doing as the manager expects (which would be the same as anyone else) we can start to fine him and recoup some weeks wages.

 

I.e. he fails to turn up for training, a warning 1st and then fine him a weeks wage every time he doesn't show after that. Can easily be argued that, that would apply to any player and he's not being singled out.

[Brian Fantana 28,894]

should be more worried about trying to get some cocaine in the Glasgow area when he returns to hoover it all up.

[East Enclosure Row N 2,861]

25 minutes ago, mclovin9091 said:

Aye but if we bring him back and he starts acting up or not doing as the manager expects (which would be the same as anyone else) we can start to fine him and recoup some weeks wages.

 

I.e. he fails to turn up for training, a warning 1st and then fine him a weeks wage every time he doesn't show after that. Can easily be argued that, that would apply to any player and he's not being singled out.

Nope. You have to show that this is permissable within his contract and that these sanctions are applied equally to all staff. 

Otherwise - it's called victimisation and an employment tribunal will tear you a new arse.

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

The more important question should be, why would you want him to play. 

[Redwhiteandblue 3,330]

2 hours ago, Perth_Campsie_Ger said:

My point is we might be able to nothing with him other than pay him off

I once remember a player getting special clearance in this sort of situation. Can't remember if it was the FA or FIFA though... 

[Redwhiteandblue 3,330]

11 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said:

The more important question should be, why would you want him to play. 

Better to have him and not need him than need him and not have him. I think 

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

13 minutes ago, Redwhiteandblue said:

Better to have him and not need him than need him and not have him. I think 

He’s not making some miraculous comeback mate. 

 

[loyalfollower 1,543]

1 hour ago, gj923 said:

That is the official rule on it from FIFA but not sure how it translates here

Players may be registered with a maximum of three clubs during one season. During this period, the player is only eligible to play offi cial matches for two clubs. As an exception to this rule, a player moving between two clubs belonging to associations with overlapping seasons (i.e. start of the season in summer/autumn as opposed to winter/spring) may be eligible to play in offi cial matches for a third club during the relevant season, provided he has fully complied with his contractual obligations towards his previous clubs. Equally, the provisions relating to the registration periods (article 6) as well as to the minimum length of a contract (article 18 paragraph 2) must be respected.

Good point. And as the sfa said back in 2012 they don’t recognise CAS then I doubt they’d abide by FIFA’s interpretation of the amount of clubs in 1 calendar year

[Redwhiteandblue 3,330]

8 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said:

He’s not making some miraculous comeback mate. 

 

His deals up in January is it not? Unless he's had some injury I haven't heard of?? 

[Tiger Shaw 30,820]

25 minutes ago, Redwhiteandblue said:

Better to have him and not need him than need him and not have him. I think 

🤣

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

1 minute ago, Redwhiteandblue said:

His deals up in January is it not? Unless he's had some injury I haven't heard of?? 

You think he’s fit and motivated to walk back into our side??